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WWilk
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 Posted - 12/02/2019 : 23:53:10
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Hello,
I am quite new to Norwegian Ancestry and therefore nor very skilled in finding anyone. I have managed to go as far as
- Ole Amundsen (Moen) born 1792 in Norderhovs, Buskerud, Norway, d. Apr 29, 1880 in Bancroft, Freeborn County, Minnesota, USA, his wife,
- Kari Larsdatter born 1798, Norway, died Dec 25, 1893, Bancroft, Freeborn County, Minnesota, USA (Daughter pf Lars Guttormsen Solum 1769-1808, and Kari Haraldsdatter 1769 -?)
I know they had one child for sure:
- Gulbrand (Gilbert) Oleson (Moen) born Dec 7, 1844 in Ringerike, Buskerud, Norway, died Jul 27 1909, Outlook, Saskatchewan, Canada, he married
- Anne Hansdatter (Hanson) born Dec 27 1850 in Tomt, Naes Parish, Gran, Norway, died Aug 1, 1912 in Outlook, SK, Canda (Daughter of Hans Hanson 1827 - 1912, and Kari Olsdatter Kvenvold 1829 - 1916).
I belive Ole's parents might have been Amund Knudsen (1756 - 1800), and Kristie Knudsdatter (1760 - ?). I have no prof of it so I am not 100% sure. I also have no one further than that.
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help me out with finding some more ancestors of Ole and maybe the rest of his children. Or maybe someone has them in their tree as well and would be willing to share some of their knowledge and findings.
Thank you,
W.W. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 00:10:30
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Here is an Ole Amundson b abt 1792 living with his widowed mother and 2 siblings in the 1801 census of Norderhov on Halkinrud:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058270005393
The other two Ole Amundsons in the census are of much different ages that is older.
Here is the marriage of Ole Amundsen and Kari Larsdatter #56
SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0009: Parish register (official) no. 9, 1819-1837, p. 848-849
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314630062
Both contracting parties lived on Hovland. The marriage was performed in the Lunder church.
Children per the indexed names at familysearch.org:
Kirsti b 8 April 1826
Anders b. 4 Jan 1830
Mari b 15 Aug 1832
Berte b 26 Feb 1835
Karen Ann (also indexed as Norine) b 13 Jan 1838
Lars b 13 Feb 1842
Gulbrand b 7 Dec 1844 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 13/02/2019 00:32:55 |
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WWilk
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 13/02/2019 : 00:15:11
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| Thank you so much for your help! :) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 00:39:23
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A son Anders O Moen age 50 head of the household in 1880 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9W-FQN
Andrew O Moen Self M 50 Norway
Inger Moen Wife F 51 Norway
Olaus Moen Son M 21 Iowa, United States
Laurits Moen Son M 15 Iowa, United States
Carrie Moen Mother F 81 Norway
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9W-FQN : 26 August 2017), Carrie Moen in entry for Andrew O Moen, 1880; citing enumeration district ED 95, sheet 78A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d), roll 0620; FHL microfilm 1,254,620.
Children in the family born in Iowa by 1859.
On this site Ole and Kari and Gulbrand and Lars are passengers on the Anna Delius in 1868:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=112&ps=89665 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 13/02/2019 00:43:59 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 00:50:08
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#57-60 all four leaving the parish for North America, right hand page:
SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0013: Parish register (official) no. 13, 1866-1874, p. 476
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111040424
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 01:23:40
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I'd suggest that you search for the actual records on the births and baptisms of the siblings in this family as necessary for practice. The records are not as nice in the 1700s where you want to go. Here is the list of the Norderhov books:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb/browse?clerical_parishes%5B%5D=0613P&start_year=&end_year=&text=
One thing you are hoping for is to pick up all the faddernes (witnesses or godparents) as these are often relatives and neighbors. Another thing you want to find is the names of the farms they were living when each of the children are born. The next set of records you want to find are the confirmation records, usually about 15 years (but could be more or less depending on the pastor). If you don't find all the children in the confirmations, then you have to consider that maybe they died, then you go through the deaths.
These records are based on church functions Baptismal records usually have both birth information and baptismal information (only baptismal in earlier eras). Confirmation records usually have either age or birth information, parents names and farm names, except earlier records which have less. Marriage records after a certain point contain father's names (1825 is too early for that in this parish) and some birth information such as age and names of bondsmen / witnesses / bestmen. Moving from the parish records can contain age, name, farm of residence and destination usually by parish if within Norway, but name of country if outside. Vaccination against small pox was required after the Swedes took over in 1814 and parishes began keeping those records. You will find them up until the 1860s in this parish and in later years as part of the confirmation record. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 01:42:56
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Sometimes using Ancestry.com can take the family back further. Here is the Ancestry record for the baptism of Ole Amundsen.
Ole Amundsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ole Amundsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 des 1792 (2 Dec 1792)
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Amund Knudsen
Mother: Kirsti Knudsdr
FHL Film Number: 124052
Knowing the baptism date allows you to find the original record in the parish records. You are far enough back in the records so you are forced to use the chronological records ie all of them lumped together. So here is the original record for Ole. On the left page fourth record down from the top.
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Here is the marriage record for Amund Knucxdn and Kersti (also spelled Chirsti)
Amund Knudsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Amund Knudsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1 jan 1785
Marriage Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse: Chirsti Knudsdr
FHL Film Number: 124052
From the original records you can find that Amund and Kirsti were engaged (trolovede} on October 30th 1784.
On the right hand page see the fourth record from the top.
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The marriage record is on Jan 1, 1785. See right hand page first record from the top. copulerde
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Edited by - AntonH on 13/02/2019 02:49:22 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 03:04:52
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Looks like Amund and Kirsti had a son Knud just before they were married.
Knud Amundsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Knud Amundsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 sep 1784
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Amun Knudsen
Mother: Chirsti Knudsdr
FHL Film Number: 124052
The original baptism record for him is on the right hand page, third record from the bottom.
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He is not found in the 1801 Census with his mother and siblings as posted above by jkmarler as he is old enough to be out on his own.
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Edited by - AntonH on 13/02/2019 03:24:58 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 03:24:19
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This is likely the baptism of the wife of Amund Knudsen.
Kirstie Knudsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kirstie Knudsen
[Kirstie Povelsen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 22 mar 1760
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Knud Povelsen
Mother: Berit Ellevsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
The father is listed as Knud Povelsen Tangen in the original record.
Right page second from the bottom
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Both the parents are still alive for the 1801 Census. and living on Hovland.
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/02/2019 00:46:34 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 03:35:13
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is likely the arrival of Ole and Kari in 1868
Ole Amundson
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935Name: Ole Amundson
Arrival Age: 74
Birth Year: abt 1794
Arrival Date: Jun 1868
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Bravo
Norway Heritage has them on Anna Delius,,,, |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 03:51:37
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Hmm, I will look more closely at the arrival record.
Just above Ole and Kari on the Bravo are Gulbrand and Lars
Name: Gulbrand Olson
Arrival Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1845
Arrival Date: Jun 1868
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Bravo
Name: Lars Olson
Arrival Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1847
Arrival Date: Jun 1868
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Bravo
And finally Kari
Name: Kari Larsdatter
Arrival Age: 68
Birth Year: abt 1800
Arrival Date: Jun 1868
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Bravo
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Edited by - AntonH on 13/02/2019 04:01:02 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2019 : 17:22:03
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I have now. it reads "Passsager liste ? 1868 Hansen Master No 60" Scribbled so the ? mark could be Fauna or Anna. So leads me to the conclusion that I posted the names from the ship Anna Delius but named Bravo by the transcriber.
The Ancestry record assigns 611 passengers to the Bravo for arrival June 1868. The Norway Heritage list has only 216 names as passengers.
So an error transcribing the passenger lists was made.
Good work on your part to sort it out
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Edited by - AntonH on 13/02/2019 17:28:47 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2019 : 00:53:22
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There are other children born to Knud Povelsen and Berit Ellefvsdatter other than Kirsti born in 1760 and listed above.
Name: Thore Knudsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 des 1763 (3 Dec 1763)
Baptism Place: , Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Knud Povelsen
Mother: Berit Ellevsdr
Left page near the bottom, first record Dec 3, Lunder
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Name: Paavel Knudsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 16 mar 1765
Baptism Place: , , Buskerud, NorwayNorderhov
Father: Knud Paavelsen
Mother: Berte Ellevsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Povel baptism date is March 16, 1765, left page
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Name: Ellev Knudsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 1 feb 1767
Baptism Place: , , Buskerud, NorwayNorderhov
Father: Knud Tangen
Mother: Berit Ellevsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Third from the bottom left page
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Name: Jon Knudsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 okt 1768 (29 Oct 1768)
Baptism Place: , , Buskerud, NorwayNorderhov
Father: Knud Paavelsen
Mother: Berit Ellevsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Left page second from bottom
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Name: Ole Knudsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 1 mar 1772
Baptism Place: , , Buskerud, NorwayNorderhov
Father: Knud Paavelsen
Mother: Berit Ellevsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Middle right hand page
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/02/2019 02:09:06 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2019 : 21:56:32
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A tree on Ancestry.com for Knud Paulsen Tangen does not have any ancestors for I'm but does have parents for him but does have parents for his wife Berit Ellevsdatter. Her parents are Ellev Tollevsen Tustin and Thore Jonsdattter.
This is likely the marriage of the couple.
Ellev Tollevsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926Name: Ellev Tollevsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 3 okt 1734 (3 Oct 1734)
Marriage Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse: Thore Jonsdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
Original record is about middle of right hand page
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Daughter Berit was born in 1735.
Berit Ellingsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Berit Ellingsen
[Berit Tustin]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 mai 1735 (19 May 1735)
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ellen Tustin
Mother: Thore Joensdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
Original record is left page about four records down.
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Another daughter was born in 1738
Ingri Ellefsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ingri Ellefsen
[Ingri Tustin]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 11 okt 1738 (11 Oct 1738)
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ellev Tustin
Mother: Thore Jonsdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
Original record is at the bottom of the right hand page
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/02/2019 22:18:58 |
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