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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  10:23:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay so I am trying to find out death information on my second great uncle named Olaf/Oluf Gilbertson born in Kandiyohi, Minnesota on August 5th 1885. Parents were Gulbrand Gulbrandsen (Gilbert Gilbertson) born March 18 1856 in kongsberg and Maren Marine Matthiasdatter ( Mary Gilbertson) born Jan 28 1857 in Våle parish. I have had a complete roadblock in finding any information on Olaf's death and I was just looking through the records I have saved for him and I have a record for his confirmation from the Lutheran Church but his name is crossed out on it. Can anybody help me find information on his death and does anybody know why his name would be crossed out?

Michelle Aiken

jkmarler
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  13:17:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Without seeing the confirmation it would be hard to judge but perhaps he didn't complete the process, or pastor was unhappy with his performance. Does it give a score?

Another possibility is that, since a lot of the pastors covered more than one church, maybe Olaf was supposed to be recorded in a different churches ledger?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  13:21:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is this him?

G Gilbertson Head M 44 Norway
Mary Gilbertson Wife F 43 Norway
Godfred Gilbertson Son M 20 Norway
Chris Gilbertson Son M 16 Norway
Oluf Gilbertson Son M 16 Minnesota
George Gilbertson Son M 14 Minnesota
Marcus Gilbertson Son M 13 Minnesota
Jonnie Gilbertson Son M 9 Minnesota
Signe Gilbertson Daughter F 7 North Dakota
Gunda Gilbertson Daughter F 3 North Dakota
Edward Gilbertson Son M 0 North Dakota
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9V5-T28 : accessed 23 February 2019), Oluf Gilbertson in household of G Gilbertson, Logan & Norway Townships, Traill, North Dakota, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 189, sheet 3A, family 42, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,233.

Agewise, It appears that he was 1/2 of set of twins...except the person of the same years Chris was born in Norway and Oluf was born in Minnesota. There are lots of siblings in this family.

Edited by - jkmarler on 23/02/2019 13:23:28
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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  13:22:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Without seeing the confirmation it would be hard to judge but perhaps he didn't complete the process, or pastor was unhappy with his performance. Does it give a score?

Another possibility is that, since a lot of the pastors covered more than one church, maybe Olaf was supposed to be recorded in a different churches ledger?



Here is the link to the record. Let me know if there is a problem accessing it. https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=60722&h=168274&tid=153659338&pid=202034943540&usePUB=true&_phsrc=rRO139&_phstart=successSource

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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  13:24:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes that's him

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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  13:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, with the link all I get is that join Ancestry page.

But he is with the family in 1920 in Ward county, North Dakota and on his own in1930 and with his sister Gunda and her children in 1940 census, so has to have died after that.

Name:
Olaf Gilbertson
Census Year:1920
Gender:Male
Age:35
Marital Status:Single
Race:White
Relationship:Son
Father:Gilbert Gilbertson
Mother:Mary Gilbertson
Brother: Edward Gilbertson
Sister:Gunda Gilbertson
Residence:Maryland, Ward, North Dakota, United States
Birthplace:Minnesota
Birth Year:1885

Gilbert Gilbertson 63
Mary Gilbertson 62
Edward Gilbertson 20
Gunda Gilbertson 23
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, GenealogyBank (https://genealogybank.com/#), Olaf Gilbertson, Maryland, Ward, North Dakota, United States. (Original index: United States Census, 1920, FamilySearch, 2014)


Name:
Olaf Gelbertson
Census Year:1930
Gender:Male
Age:44
Marital Status:Single
Race:White
Relationship:Head
Residence:Mayland, Ward, North Dakota, United States
Birthplace:Minnesota
Birth Year:1886

Source Citation
"United States Census, 1930," database with images, GenealogyBank (https://genealogybank.com/#), Olaf Gelbertson, Mayland, Ward, North Dakota, United States. (Original index: United States Census, 1930, FamilySearch, 2014)

Name:
Olaf Gilbertson
Census Year:1940
Gender:Male
Age:54
Marital Status:Single
Race:White
Relationship:Brother
Residence:Ward 4, Minot, Minot City, Ward, North Dakota, United States
Birthplace:Minnesota
Birth Year:1886
Household Members:NameAge
Gunda Welch43
Gene Welch14
Raymond Welch12
Jimmie Welch11

Source Citation
"United States Census, 1940," database with images, GenealogyBank (https://genealogybank.com/#), Olaf Gilbertson, Ward 4, Minot, Minot City, Ward, North Dakota, United States. (Original index: United States Census, 1940, FamilySearch, 2014)

Maybe he didn't complete his confirmation learning because his family moved away during the cycle?

Well, this is the ND Public Death Index listing for an Olaf Gilbertson in Ward county, N.D.:
GILBERTSON, OLAF 06/29/1953 Ward MALE 67 Years 10/04/1885 North Dakota Ward

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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  14:24:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He lists his birthday as Aug 5th 1885 in his draft registration form. I wonder why it would be listed differently in the ND death index? Assuming that this is the same Olaf anyway... How do I upload pictures on here?

Michelle Aiken
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  15:36:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When he died, he was unable to give it, and they relied on a grief-striken or misinformed person for the information.

Get the ND death certificate, it's cheap either $5 or $8. Then you might satisfy your skepticism.

Generally, when information conflicts with other information, a record created for the purpose of that information (for instance a birth certificate for the facts about a birth), or a record created closer to the date of the event are given greater weight.

Someone else on forum might help you with posting as I've never done.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/02/2019 :  18:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely the same person found by Jackie in the ND Public Death Index.

Olaf Gilbertson
in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995
Name: Olaf Gilbertson
Residence Year: 1951
Street address: 408 1st NE
Residence Place: Minot, North Dakota, USA
Publication Title: Minot, North Dakota, City Directory, 1951
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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 25/02/2019 :  15:47:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok awesome thank you guys.#128522;

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