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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 13/03/2019 :  22:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Anton and ToreL for your work, I'm leaning towards the Sedsel born in
1784.Died April 4, 1847. A cousin of mine had a relative in Norway do some checking and that is what he came up with, no info on Anders Larsen.
other than listing him as her husband. I think at least you have their marriage
date.
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/03/2019 :  22:11:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good find in the 1801 Census.

You might notice that I am striking out several of my entries. A closer look makes me doubt that they are relevant.

The Kari Larsdatter in that list has a mother Marte Christensdatter. Using Ancestry the only connection I can find is a Kari Larsdattter from Løten.

Kari Larsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-192
Name: Kari Larsen
[Kari Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 28 jan 1770
Baptism Place: , Loten, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Andersen
Mother: Marthe Christensdr
FHL Film Number: 124292

And this is probably her brother Anders Larsen born in 1765 also in Løten Hedmark and what appears to be the same parents.

Anders Larsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Larsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 feb 1765
Baptism Place: , Loten, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Andersen
Mother: Marthe Christensdr
FHL Film Number: 124292

Not in Vang but Løten is next door.


However father is wrong!


Edited by - AntonH on 13/03/2019 22:13:55
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  01:08:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So we do keep looking for a clue that pins down Anders and his parents. Looking at the baptism records for the childen of Anders Larsen and Sissel Jensdatter and especially the farms associated with those records and the fadder who witnessed the baptism.

Here is the baptism of Jens born 1817 the farm is Halset Ejer

Link

There is a Anders Larsen living on Halseth farm in the 1801 Census

1801

Probably his baptism record. The father has the last name of the farm plus the eie or ejer which signifies a sub farm.

Anders Larsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 mar 1786
Baptism Place: Vang, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Halsaeteje
Mother: Lisbet Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124475

Middle left page

Link

Edited by - AntonH on 14/03/2019 01:19:42
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  01:29:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That could be him, I am still trying to track him.
I see that at the birth of daughter Berte in 1828
Anders Larsen and Sissel Jensdatter were living
at Myhrseie which is the farm my great grandfather
lived on and where my grandfather Lars took our name
from. So still searching going backwards now.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  01:39:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Based on the info directly above I would think that this is the Lars Halset (Halseth, Halsæt eie)

Lars Gulbrands Halset

Link

Also note the farm name Sandvold is connected with this person. I have seen that farm name in some of the records associated with Anders and Sidsel.

Children

Gulbrand 1769

Gulbrand

Birte 1776

Birte

The family on Halset in 1801 Census. There is a Anders listed, he is listed as a servant and not a son.

1801

Gunnor

1778

For Lisbet the father is listed as Gulbrand?

Lisbet

Edited by - AntonH on 14/03/2019 03:13:18
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  01:48:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just looked up Anders Larsen Halset whose father
Is the same person you just mentioned. I believe
all the farms are fairly close to each other, For now I
think you’ve found the right person

Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 14/03/2019 12:51:04
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  02:39:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe, but there still are some things that do not make any sense. In the 1801 Census of Halset the parents are very old and it states that it is their first marriage. And the wife is Sidsel Larsdatter. The mother for Anders is Lisbet Andersdatter.
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  12:45:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay going over what we have:

1. Anders Larsen Mar.15,1786 father Lars Halseteje mother Lisbet Andersdr
the father's name doesn't contain Gulbrandsen. However this might still be
the right Anders.
2. The Anders in the 1801 Census for Halset farm appears to be 2 years
older, listed as servant. I think this is wrong person, wrong parents.

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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  22:28:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
1. Anders Larsen Mar.15,1786 father Lars Halseteje mother Lisbet Andersdr
the father's name doesn't contain Gulbrandsen. However this might still be
the right Anders.


Perhaps the fathers last name is not Gulbandson. Here is a Anders Larsen born about 1786 living on Grinager in the 1801 Census. Father is Lars Larsen and mother is Lisbet Andesdatter.

1801

Edited by - AntonH on 15/03/2019 01:56:25
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  22:51:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your link takes me to a page where he is a witness at a baptism. However his residence is L. Gaalaas.
Is this the Anders you posted about earlier on yesterday. I see you edited him out but he could still be a a candidate.

Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 14/03/2019 23:04:38
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ToreL
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  22:52:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm confused, did you put the right url iin the ladt post? The Anders Larsen who was a fadder in 1799 must have been born before 1786??
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  22:57:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it seems to be the wrong link however the Anders in the link being in lille Gaalaas would be interesting if we knew where he came from.
It is a farm in Furnæs/Vang Parish where some of my other ancestors lived.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 :  23:05:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My bad, here is the correct link to the 1801 Census for Grinager.

1801

The incorrect link was from the search for the Anders Larsen who married Sidsel .The approach was to see what farms are associated with people named Anders Larsen around the 1800 era. I corrected above so that link now is for the 1801 Census

The 1801 Census shows two children for Lars Larsen and Lisbet Andersdatter, Anders and Marte. This baptism record seems to show a third child Lars, however he does not show up in the 1801 Census.

Link

Middle left page

Lars

Edited by - AntonH on 14/03/2019 23:45:08
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 15/03/2019 :  00:12:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This last Anders Larssen seems to be the most interesting.
It is also interesting to see 3 Lisbet Andersdatter on same page,
ages 70 yrs, 2 yrs. and Anders mother 54 yrs.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2019 :  02:03:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tough to find a definitive clue to the correct Anders Larsen. Here are in my opinion the three best candidates. From Ancestry.com

Name: Anders Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 mar 1786
Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Halsaeteje
Mother: Lisbet Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124475

Link

Name: Anders Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 aug 1787
Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Lundeje
Mother: Olia Torgersdr
FHL Film Number: 124475

Link

Name: Anders Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 aug 1786
Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Snarudeje
Mother: Karen Anstensdr
FHL Film Number: 124475

Link

At present my preference is for the first on the list as his last name a farm name like all the others is found in some of the fadder of his children. But second would be the third Andes as his father shows up in at least one of the baptism records.

Edited by - AntonH on 15/03/2019 02:21:45
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