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knutselsjord
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Norway
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 Posted - 23/03/2019 : 10:42:44
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| Searching for passenger list for SS Catalonia, landing Boston, Mass. on June 18th 1987 From Liverpool and Queenstown.. Seems lost to me. Anyone? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/03/2019 : 11:16:34
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Searching for passenger list for SS Catalonia, landing Boston, Mass. on June 18th 1987 From Liverpool and Queenstown.
If you are actually looking for the arrival of 18 June 1887 then you should be informed that it is available through the online catalog of the LDS FamilySearch.org.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1860873
Choose to "Browse through 80,509 images". Choose Roll #104 and go to image 123 of 613 on that roll to reach the beginning the pages scanned for that arrival of the Catalonia.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/03/2019 : 21:37:02
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If you are looking for a certain passenger please post the name here. Ancestry.com has the passenger list for Catalonia for 1887. This list includes 965 Passengers. Here is one example.
Adolf L Andersson
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Adolf L Andersson
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Birth Date: abt 1870
Departure Place: Queenstown Ireland and Liverpool England, Ireland and Liverpool England
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1887
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Catalonia
There is no passenger list for 1987. |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/03/2019 21:39:17 |
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knutselsjord
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Norway
23 Posts |
Posted - 24/03/2019 : 08:39:09
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Originally posted by Hopkins
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Searching for passenger list for SS Catalonia, landing Boston, Mass. on June 18th 1987 From Liverpool and Queenstown.
If you are actually looking for the arrival of 18 June 1887 then you should be informed that it is available through the online catalog of the LDS FamilySearch.org.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1860873
Choose to "Browse through 80,509 images". Choose Roll #104 and go to image 123 of 613 on that roll to reach the beginning the pages scanned for that arrival of the Catalonia.
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knutselsjord
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Norway
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 08:46:34
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| Thanks! This way I found the front page of the list. No names, though... |
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knutselsjord
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Norway
23 Posts |
Posted - 24/03/2019 : 08:49:46
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| Searching for the name, alternative spellings: Ole Sezelfor (Imigration registration version), Ole Selsjord, Ole J. Selsjord, Ole Jakobsen Selsjord |
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knutselsjord
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Norway
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 09:09:18
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| Oh sorry! I found him!!! Thanks so much!!! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/03/2019 : 20:43:00
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| Apparently Ole and his brother Knut were being searched for in 1939. If you haven't already seen, there are at least two mentions one in Norsk Lysningsblad and another in Gulbrandsdølen at the National Library newspaper page. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 24/03/2019 : 23:36:49
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Knut -
Sorry I didn't include quick instruction on how to page forward and back when you got to the front page. I use the scanned items at FamilySearch so often that I just think it must be completely 'user friendly' automatically. Sorry about that.
In Salt Lake City they are putting more and more available as scanned and available over the Internet. More all the time and well worth watching from time to time to check and see what has been added for our easy use.
They do have SOME items that are only viewable at one of their Family History Centers. I have one very close to my location so I just drive over during the limited hours they are open to view those items. But check at YOUR location and find where the nearest LDS Family History Center is that you might be able to use also.
I just checked and there appear to be a fair number of LDS Family History Centers as far south in Norway as Kristiansand and as far north as Tromsø.
https://www.familysearch.org/locations/centerlocator |
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knutselsjord
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Norway
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 09:04:50
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| Thanks for your info, Hopkins! Will find out about it. True story, jkmarler, that search was the final chapter of that disapearance mystery of Ole and Knut. Relatives back home needed to colse it at least legally due to an economic heir issue on the boys' behalf imposed on their childhood farm . Search ads were inserted in all major norwegian language newspapers , embassy and consulates were involved also. To no avail. Ole Selsjord, born 1866/65 , went to Benson, Minn. possibly to see Theodore Hansen, a businessman originally from Sel, Norway, same as Ole and Knut. Thereafter, no trace. Knut , born 1868, emigrated 1893, landing at Ellis Island from SS Servia with one Iver Berg, american citizen living for the years to come in Bryant, Hamlin, Minn. In the party, heading initially for Tracy, Minn, was also Ole Bergum, later Olaf Berg, of Seattle, Wash. The investigators of 39 corresponded with him to ask for info on the boys, no result. The one piece of info I have on Knut after Ellis Island is a photograph of him taken by Carlson and Frans, 1509 Fifth St, West Superior, Wis. Apparently sent back home by mail. Any chance anyone can lend a hand for more info here? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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knutselsjord
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Norway
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 18:42:00
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Ole born 14. oct 66, Knut 26. dec. 68. Father: Jakob Olsen Selsjord, born 1827, Mother : Marit Knutsdatter Breden born 1843. All this is also on the 1875 census document. Non- confirmed stories goes one or both moved on to Seattle area from Minnesota later on. But the photograph shows Knut also was residing in Duluth at one point, for short or long. Ole may have changed his name to Olaf, some people did that. And both may have started using Jacobsen as their surname.
kind regards |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/03/2019 : 22:16:07
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Here is a long shot but about all I have been able to find. Arrival year is not very close.
Knut Jakobson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
1910 |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/03/2019 22:16:59 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 25/03/2019 : 23:07:17
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Long shots here we come!
Name: Ole Dale
Age: 33
Birth Date: Oct 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Vernon, Palo Alto, Iowa
House Number: 18
Sheet Number: 10
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 170
Family Number: 172
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Hellen Dale
Marriage Year: 1893
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 13
Naturalization: Na
Occupation: Farmer
Months Not Employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: R
Farm or House: F
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Dale 33
Hellen Dale 43
Cora Dale 6
Oscar Dale 3
Gemelea Dale 1
Ole Eike 19
Name: Kanute N Berg
[N Berg??tanute]
Age: 31
Birth Date: Dec 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Zumbrota, Goodhue, Minnesota
Sheet Number: 1
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 4
Family Number: 4
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1894 (one year off, there were no Knuts in 1893)
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Anna Berg
Marriage Year: 1894
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 6
Occupation: Farmer
Months Not Employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: O
Home Free or Mortgaged: M
Farm or House: F
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Kanute N Berg 31
Anna Berg 44
Mary Berg 6
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knutselsjord
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Norway
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Posted - 26/03/2019 : 11:07:13
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| Interesting cases. The Ole Dale and Kanute (Kanute is a well known englishification of Knut as the K(nut) is pronounced in Norwegian as opposed to in English. ) is weakened by the fact that these men must have taken their wives' names, which would have been very unusual in those days, wouldn't it? There are no christian names on those info sheets resembling names in the Selsjord family either. Any way to find out about , say, the wedding dates where wives' maiden names maybe are given? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2019 : 13:07:58
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Hope goes glimmering, this one is :
1895 census
HouseholdRoleSexAgeBirthplace
Knute Larson M 25y Norway
Anna Larson F 39y Norway
Mary Larson F 1y Norway
Citing this Record
"Minnesota State Census, 1895," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ8R-2WR : 2 April 2016), Mary Larson in household of Knute Larson, Minneola township, Goodhue, Minnesota; citing p. 12, line 4, State Library and Records Service, St.Paul; FHL microfilm 565,773.
1905 Census, Goodhue county Minnesota image: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSYH-G8T?i=15&cc=1503056
Knut S Berg age36 residence in state 11 years in this enumeration district 6 years
Name Knut Berg
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Zumbrota, Goodhue, Minnesota, United States
Gender Male
Age 42
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1868
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1894
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 1
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Knut Berg Head M 42 Norway
Anne Berg Wife F 54 Norway
Marie Berg Daughter F 16 Norway
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2GM-2YL : accessed 26 March 2019), Knut Berg, Zumbrota, Goodhue, Minnesota, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 61, sheet 1B, family 18, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 698; FHL microfilm 1,374,711.
The only Knut Berg / Ann marriage in MOMS between 1 Jan 1893 and 31 Dec 1900:
HENNEPIN 00730308 04/14/1897 BERG, KNUTE JERMSTAD, ANNIE |
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