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AntonH
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 Posted - 22/08/2019 : 16:41:33
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| It would appear that Ajer arrived in 1867 and was married to Jorgen and had their first child by 1872. The first we have seen of them is the 1885 Minnesota Census posted by Hopkins above. Have you found records for her in the 1870 Census and for the family in the 1880 Census? |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 17:11:58
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From the 1865 Census you can see that Tov was born in 1813 in Moland, Fryresdal. Not a lot of candidates for a Tov. Here is really the only one I found. A Tow (same as Tov in pronunciation) born, Sept 11, 1813 parents are Thore Saavesen and Asjær Bendixdatter. So your Asjer was named after her grandmother on her fathers side. Typical Norwegian naming practice.
Tow
Original record is second record down on the right hand page
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 17:37:05
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Thore Saavesen married Asjer Bendixsdatter on May 30, 1803.
Thore Saavesen
in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name: Thore Saavesen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 30 mai 1803 (30 May 1803)
Marriage Place: Fyrisdal , Telemark , Norway
Spouse: Asgjaer Bendixdr
Spouse's Gender: Female
Second record under 30 May on the left hand page
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Thore Saavesen with his siblings in the 1801 Census
1801
And still alive with his wife for the 1865 Census.
1865
And his burial notice from 1866.
Thore Saavesen Svalestue
in the Norway, Select Burials, 1666-1927
Name: Thore Saavesen Svalestue
Gender: Male
Age: 88y 3m
Birth Date: 1778
Death Date: 28 mai 1866 (28 May 1866)
Burial Place: Fyresdal, Telemark, Norway
FHL Film Number: 126928
Reference ID: b 6 p 161
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Jdkrags
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 21:18:28
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When you have taken your family tree back in time to the 1700's, you can often find a tree on Geni.com that fits your family. Here is a tree on Geni.com for Asgjerd Tovsdtr Undeberg. As with most Geni trees the sources are missing but you can use the tree to guide your search for ancestors. This particular one takes you back to 1500 for many of the families.
Geni.com
Also if you have a subscription to Ancestry you will find several trees on there for
Thore Saavesen
1778–1866
BIRTH 21 FEB 1778 • Fyresdal Telemark Norway
DEATH 28 MAY 1866 • Fyresdal Telemark Norway
with some sources listed.
Find the record I posted above for the burial for Thore Saavesen Svalestue and click on
"Find others who are researching Thore Saavesen Svalestue in Public Member Trees"
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 23:09:27
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Back to Jørgen Knudsen. In the 1865 Norwegian Census there are only 6 men named Jørgen Knudsen born 1823 to 1828 in the list. Of those five are married so I put them aside. The only one left is living in Holum, Vest-Agder with his brother and his mother Anna Knudsdatter.
1865
Probably this guy.
Jorgen Knudsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Jorgen Knudsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 aug 1828
Baptism Date: 5 sep 1828
Baptism Place: , Oyslebo, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father: Knud Jorgensen
Mother: Anna Knudsdr
FHL Film Number: 127308
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Confirmed in 1842.
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Jdkrags
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 23:48:55
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| Yeah it looks like you narrowed it down pretty well. Do you think that’s him? (And should I add him) |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 23:50:25
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Another approach.
Here is a Jørgen Knutsen leaving Norway in 1857. He is 32 years old and from Moland.
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A possible for this one
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Jørgen Knudsen Sandvig left Moland Fyresdal parish in 1857 for America along with his brother Gunder.
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Here is Gunder with the same parents as the Jørgen
Gunder Knudsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Gunder Knudsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 jan 1832
Baptism Date: 8 apr 1832
Baptism Place: Fyresdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Kittelsen
Mother: Birgith Jørgensdatter
FHL Film Number: 126928
Reference ID: b 8 p 74
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2019 : 23:54:34
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quote:
Yeah it looks like you narrowed it down pretty well. Do you think that’s him? (And should I add him)
Definitely do not add him. We are still throwing stuff against the wall to see if it sticks. This one does not look very good to me.
I would like to find some connection to Ajer or some evidence that the man left Norway. The next one down looks better to me as he is from Moland, Telemark and actually has left Norway. |
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Jdkrags
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 00:30:35
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| I agree. If he is 32 in 1857, then that would also line up with the 1825 birth date. And he is also from Morand. Very possible. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 01:57:12
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Pioneers
SANDHILL LUTHERAN
The Sandhill Congregation was organized August 12,
1872, at the Tollef Tollefson home. According to the
records of the first secretary, Peder O. Satermo, the organizers, who also became charter members were: Peder
O. Satermo, A. O. Tronnes, Gulbrand Amundson, Peder
O. Estenson, Salve Olson, Gullik Salveson, Johan Bram-
seth, Elling T. Dokken, H. Heia, Tollef Tollefson, Nils
Olson, Ole Estenson, Ole A. Estenson, Ole A. Tronnes,
Ole Johnson Jevning, Knut Olson Ose, Thore Erickson,
and Jorgen Knutson.....
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 02:00:56
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Interesting Jackie, Here is one of them from a Tree
Peder Ole Satermo
1847–1931
BIRTH 13 NOV 1847 • Bardu, Troms, Norway
DEATH 05 MAY 1931 • Climax, Polk Co, Minnesota
Gullick Salvesen is on the same page as Jorgen in the 1875 Minnesota Census as G Salveson.
From a Tree
Elling Torsteinson Dokken
1843–1926
BIRTH 1843 Hallingdal, Buskerud
DEATH 05 MAY 1926 • Climax, Polk, Minnesota, USA |
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 02:51:35
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So Gunder Knutsen brother of Jørgen Knutsen Sandvik left a big trial in Houston, Fillmore County, Minnesota. There he married a girl from Frysedal Telemark a Gunhild Tarjesdatter born 1835.
Gunder Knudsen
in the Minnesota, Marriages Index, 1849-1950
Name: Gunder Knudsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1862
Marriage Place: Fillmore, Minnesota
Spouse's name: Gunild Tarjesdatter
Spouse Gender: Female
FHL Film Number: 1316804
Gunild Tarjesdr
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Gunild Tarjesdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 nov 1835
Baptism Date: 22 nov 1835
Baptism Place: Fyresdal, Telemark, Norway
Father: Tarje Olsen
Mother: Margit Tovsdr
FHL Film Number: 278277
Reference ID: 2:1L772DR
Gunder Knudson
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Gunder Knudson
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1860: Sheldon, Houston, Minnesota
Post Office: Sheldon
Dwelling Number: 739
Family Number: 754
Occupation: Laborer
Personal Estate Value: 100
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Evanson 26
Ann Evanson 19
Gunder Knudson 28
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 03:31:10
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An issue I have been having with assigning Jørgen Knustsen Sandvig as the husband of Asjer, is that a fairly large number of trees on Ancestry have listed him as the same person as John Knutsen Midbo of Winneabago, Iowa. I do not think that is correct but it has taken me a lot of work to prove to myself that the assumption that John Knutson Midbo is the same person as Jørgen Knutson Sandvig is an incorrect assumption.
The Trees on Ancestry dealing with John Knutson Midbo of Winneabago Iowa are such a mess as to be best avoided. You are likely to run into them sooner or later so be forewarned.
Likely the marriage of the John Knutson Midbo in Nissedal, Telemark
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Likely the baptism record of John Knutson Midbo in Nissedal. Telemark, in 1826.
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