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plnd94
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USA
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Posted - 09/09/2019 :  05:50:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking for burial place in Norway for Birgitte, her husband, and their 2 sons J.W. and Bernt Klüver. Birgitte was back and forth between Norway and USA. But I believe she died in Norway in August 1935.

Birgitte's father was Rev. Bernt Julius Muus, founder of St. Olaf College.
Thanks much, Kay

jkmarler
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Posted - 09/09/2019 :  09:05:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The OCR read of newspaper Aftenposten dated 22 Aug 1935 lists her burial at 14 hours (2 pm) in Var Frelsers gravlund.
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 09/09/2019 :  16:33:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the encyclopeida of Norwegian artists, Bernt Klüver changed his last name to Clüver. He died in Oslo on April 2, 1941. https://nkl.snl.no/Bernt_Julius_Muus_Cl%C3%BCver

I do not find him at the search site for Norwegian graves: https://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/vis.php?mode=x
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ToreL
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Posted - 09/09/2019 :  17:04:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This page contains some data on the children of Birgitte Muus and Lorentz Klüver: http://www.kluwer.no/ldk/REFSAAS.61G1.html

The Johan Wilhelm Klüver born in 1890 lived to a ripe age and was buried in Steinkjer in 1986, in a family grave with his father and several others:

http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=5558201

This doesn't quite work -- the search I made isn't preservef in the link, but just search for first name Johan Wilhelm and last name Klüver at the given site. (The umlaut is necessary to get the right match.)

Edited by - ToreL on 09/09/2019 18:39:25
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ToreL
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Posted - 09/09/2019 :  17:26:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

The OCR read of newspaper Aftenposten dated 22 Aug 1935 lists her burial at 14 hours (2 pm) in Var Frelsers gravlund.



I looked at the original. Vår frelsers gravlund refers to the next burial. Birgitte Klüver was buried at Vestre gravlund.
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ToreL
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Posted - 09/09/2019 :  19:00:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This geni page shows a photo of the gravestone for the daughter Else Marie Berethe.

https://www.geni.com/people/Else-Marie-Berethe-Western/6000000006504716611

You can also find it at http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/vis.php?mode=fy

Search for last name western and first name else marie, without the hyphen.

Edited by - ToreL on 09/09/2019 20:22:46
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plnd94
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Posted - 10/09/2019 :  04:58:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great information from everyone. Thanks so much!
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peder
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Posted - 10/09/2019 :  14:55:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
source -my heritage paid subscription

Name Bernt Julius Muus Clüver
Birth Skiftet navn til Clüver i 1929
1897
Strinda, Trondheim, Sor-Trondelag, Norway
Marriage Marriage to: Brit Alta Clüver (født Nyquist)
1923
Divorce Divorce from: Brit Alta Clüver (født Nyquist)
1929
Marriage Marriage to: Astrid Johanne Clüver (født Larsen)
1935
Death Apr 2 1941
Oslo, Norge
Family members
Parents Lorentz Diderich Klüver, Skipsreder
1862 - 1938
Birgith Magdalena Klüver (født Muus)
1861 - 1935
Ex-wife Brit Alta Clüver (født Nyquist)
1897 - 1974
Wife Astrid Johanne Clüver (født Larsen)
1908 - ?
Siblings Johan Wilhelm Klüver
1890 - 1986
Else Marie Klüver
1891 - ?
Children Ingrid Margrethe Clüver
1924 - 1997
Lillian Clüver


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plnd94
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Posted - 23/09/2019 :  00:56:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for great replies.
Iron Marker in Snaasa cemetery - Google translate comes out rather strange -

Jernplate Kors 28 kister af MUUS ernes Grav =Kapel nedsatte her August 1894
På latin: Til den som ser Den gravstad du her ser oppført av stein gøymer Muusernes bein, dei er vigd til Gud. Her må du ikkje med krenkande hand røra bein som er vigd til Gud. For eg vil at grava skal vera i ro. Gå bort og hugs du skal døy.

Thanks much for help in translation

Edited by - plnd94 on 23/09/2019 04:32:00
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ToreL
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Posted - 23/09/2019 :  11:26:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Iron plate: 28 coffins from the Muus grave-chapel put down here August 1894

To the one who sees: The tomb that you see here built of stone hides the bones of the Muuses. They are consecrated to God. Do not violate the bones consecrated to God. I want the grave to rest. Go away and remember that you too shall die.

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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/09/2019 :  23:46:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Olga Petrine Muus born Pedersdatter Nordvoll on the island Dønna in Nordland County 1910 married to Leiv Olav Muus, son of farmer Peter Olav Muus, was my grandfather Aksel Nordvoll's sister. They left no children link

They recieved a large silverware cutlery as a wedding presant from family in USA when they married

Edited by - Kåarto on 27/09/2019 00:10:36
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plnd94
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Posted - 27/09/2019 :  01:50:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks to ToreL for interesting translation. Makes more sense than Google - but still seems like a strange message to me.

Kåarto - Will have to check my Muus family tree - but there is probably a connection to Leiv as so many Muuses in Snaasa. They are related to my son-in-law and my grandchildren.
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ToreL
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Posted - 27/09/2019 :  18:53:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little background on the inscriptions at Snåsa church. There is an annex to the church sacristy, built in 1703 as a grave chapel for the Muus family. A small marble plate on the outside wall, written in Greek and Latin, conveys the "strange message." The page I linked to above shows both part of the marble plate (early 1700s) as well as the iron plate (late 1800s). The text on the website implies that the chapel now holds fewer coffins than it did originally, and my guess is that 28 coffins were taken from the chapel and buried in the church yard in 1894, in a common grave marked by the iron plate.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/09/2019 :  23:34:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The cutlery was in two beautiful brown wooden boxes. I have one of them in my cottage, my mother got it from aunt Olga

Leif Olav Muus 1922-1990, his father was Peter Olav Muus 1890-1950 his father was Lorents Muus d 1930, his father was Peter Muus d 1875, his father was Broder Nicolai Muus d 1819, his father was Petter Johan Muus b 1735
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plnd94
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Posted - 29/09/2019 :  04:06:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting to make a Muus connection. Lorentz Kvaal (a Muus descendant) reported in 1992 that there were 3 persons named Muus in Snaasa - Peter age 60, Kirsten widow age 75, and Olga age 70 (your Olga?).
So now probably nobody named Muus left in Snaasa.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 29/09/2019 :  16:26:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Olga.
There is a Rigmor Muus Leistrand living in Snåsa today, and a family member to Leiv as I understand it inherited the farm when Olga died.
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