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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  16:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RA, Botsfengslet, D/Db/Dbb/L0014: 137e - 437e, 1871-1873, s. 82
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/db10101603110086


I'm actually interested in the siblings mentioned as being in America if anyone wants to tackle the right hand page as well!

AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  17:22:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This does not answer your questions but may be useful in reading about the siblings on the right hand page

Erik Pedersen
in the 1865 Norway Census
Name: Erik Pedersen
Gender: Mannlig (Male)
Marital status: Ugift (Single)
Age: 15
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birth Place: Modum
Census Year: 1865
City: Modum
County: Buskerud
County Number: 06
Counting District: Thon Tufte
Counting District Number: 0120
Enumeration District: Rudsfjerdingen
Enumeration District Number: 006
Relation to Head: Søn (Son)
House Number: 01
Household Members:
Name Age
Peder Olsen 45
Dortea Corneliusdatter 41
Christian Pedersen 18
Erik Pedersen 15
Andreas Pedersen 8
Peder Pedersen 6
Martinius Pedersen 2
Inger Olea Eriksdatter 55
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  17:30:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After a short stint of failing to read the right hand page, I gave up and resorted to Ancestry.com family trees for information on the siblings in America. Here is some info on Andreas and Martin etc.

Andreas Thon
1858–1933
BIRTH 02 APRIL 1858 • Modum, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 24 JUNE 1933 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA

Martin ( Martinius Pedersen Thon
1864–1948
BIRTH 15 OCT 1864 • Modum, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 27 JAN 1948 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA

Olaf Thon/ Tufte
1867–1939
BIRTH 26 JAN 1867 • Modum, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 12 NOV 1939 • Norway

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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  17:42:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A second tree has information on two that are not in the 1865 Census but seem to have the same parents. This second tree is well sourced for some of the people if you need more info.

Kristian P Thon
1848–1885
BIRTH 29 APR 1848 • Norway
DEATH RANGE 1885-1889

Maren Kristine Olive Thon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Maren Kristine Olive Thon
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1883
Baptism Date: 15 May 1883
Baptism Place: New Ulm; Stearns, Minnesota, USA
Father: Kristian P Thon
Mother: Marie Thon
Church Name: Big Grove Lutheran
Church Location: Brooten, Minnesota

Ole Peder Thon
1844–1913
BIRTH 23 JAN 1844 • Norway
DEATH 26 JUN 1913 • Wisconsin, USA

Ole Thon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Ole Thon
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: 26 Jun 1913
Burial Date: 29 Jun 1913
Church Name: Our Savior's Lutheran Church
Church Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin


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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  18:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

A second tree has information on two that are not in the 1865 Census but seem to have the same parents. This second tree is well sourced for some of the people if you need more info.

Kristian P Thon
1848–1885
BIRTH 29 APR 1848 • Norway
DEATH RANGE 1885-1889

Maren Kristine Olive Thon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Maren Kristine Olive Thon
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1883
Baptism Date: 15 May 1883
Baptism Place: New Ulm; Stearns, Minnesota, USA
Father: Kristian P Thon
Mother: Marie Thon
Church Name: Big Grove Lutheran
Church Location: Brooten, Minnesota

Ole Peder Thon
1844–1913
BIRTH 23 JAN 1844 • Norway
DEATH 26 JUN 1913 • Wisconsin, USA

Ole Thon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Ole Thon
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: 26 Jun 1913
Burial Date: 29 Jun 1913
Church Name: Our Savior's Lutheran Church
Church Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin





Christian is the right one. What source is there for his deathdate? is there a full death date?
Who were faddernes for Christian's daughter Kristine?

Since I'm demanding (ha!) what are the dates of death for Christian's parents Peder Olsen and Dortea Corneliusdatter in the databases?

The other two daughters of Christian are Petra and Lina D.

Edited by - jkmarler on 31/12/2019 18:21:54
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  21:49:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No source for the death date of Christian only a range DEATH RANGE 1885-1889

Faddernes for Kristine

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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  21:51:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Info on Christians parents, same on both trees

Peder Olsen Saastad
1820–
BIRTH 06 JAN 1820 • Norway
DEATH Unknown

Dorthea Corneliusdatter
1825–
BIRTH 29 APRIL 1825 • Norway
DEATH Unknown
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  21:55:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lina Danelle Thon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Lina Danelle Thon
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1879
Baptism Date: 14 Sep 1879
Baptism Place: Various, Minnesota, USA
Father: Kristian P Thon
Mother: Marie Thon
Church Name: Crow River Lutheran
Church Location: Belgrade, Minnesota

Faddernes

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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  21:58:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Petra Helena Thoen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Petra Helena Thoen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1881
Baptism Date: 3 Apr 1881
Baptism Place: Kandiyohi, Minnesota, USA
Father: Kristian P Thoen
Mother: Maria Hendriksen
Church Name: First Norway Lake Lutheran Church
Church Location: New London, Minnesota

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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  22:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only census record posted for Christian

Christian Tone
in the 1880 United States Federal CensusName: Christian Tone
Age: 31
Birth Date: Abt 1849
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Crow River, Stearns, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number: 21
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Mary Tone
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Christian Tone 31
Mary Tone 27
Lina Tone 11/12
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  22:31:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did search the ELCA data base for a burial record for Christian Thoen under various spellings. Did not find anything. I did find another Thoen living in the same area

Peder Thoen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Peder Thoen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1886
Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1886
Baptism Place: New Ulm; Stearns, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ande K Thoen
Mother: Ingeborg Pederson
Church Name: Big Grove Lutheran
Church Location: Brooten, Minnesota

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Died young

Peder A Thoen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Peder A Thoen
Death Age: 1
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1886
Birth Place: Big Grove
Death Date: 23 Oct 1887
Burial Date: 6 Nov 1887
Father: Anders Thoen
Mother: Ingeborg Thoen
Church Name: Big Grove Lutheran
Church Location: Brooten, Minnesota

Edited by - AntonH on 31/12/2019 22:33:35
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  22:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This may be Kristian leaving age 21 leaving Modum in 1869 going to Redwing, Minnesota:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000397421

Kristian's wife is head of household in the 1885 Minnesota State Census, so likely he was already gone by then.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQXB-ZXW

Scuttlebutt is that Kristian committed suicide, but I haven't seen any documentation of that or of his exact date or place of death.

Edited by - jkmarler on 31/12/2019 22:54:39
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  23:09:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#13 Dortea Corneliusdatter death
SAKO, Modum kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0012: Parish register (official) no. 12, 1890-1898, p. 187
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051031010996

I love those threads!

Here in Dortea's dodfallsprotokol, #44 Kristian is listed as dead and survived by wife Marie and daughters Petra, Lina and Danelle (in America)
SAKO, Modum lensmannskontor, H/Ha/Hab/L0001: Dødsfallsprotokoll - Nordre Modum, 1880-1898
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10081211010111


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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2019 :  23:10:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Opps missed your post on the 1885 Census.

Some boundaries can be put on the death of Christian Thoen. In the 1895 Minnesota Census he is missing from the family.

You can see by the screenshot that this is the family.

Mare Toon
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Mare Toon
Age: 41
Census Date: 1895
County: Stearns
Locality: Crow Lake
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Race: White
Line: 32
Roll: V290_98

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Edited by - AntonH on 31/12/2019 23:13:26
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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/01/2020 :  00:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many thanks Anton!
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/01/2020 :  02:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Peder Olsen Tufte was still alive for the1891 Census

1891

But he died 12 Apr 1897

#27

Edited by - AntonH on 01/01/2020 02:49:29
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