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NATaylorTurner
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 Posted - 08/02/2020 : 03:28:55
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Hi,
I am trying to find anything about my Great Great Grandfather Edward Johnson b Nov 1852 in Norway somewhere. I think his middle initial was A. He died in 1929 in the US, I think in Washington State.
I think he immigrated and then married Gurine Brustad or Berg in 1881, not sure how he got here and I think she was here already. His father was John but not sure of his family names.
I know of no siblings for him either. I would love to find out anything I can about Edward A Johnson!
Does anyone know why Edward's wife Gurine's last name is listed on her daughter, Ethel's wedding certificate was Berg? I haven't seen her anywhere with Berg associated. Was there possibly another spouse of Anna Jonetta named Berg? Any ideas?
I cannot figure this out and also why I do not find Ethel Edwina Johnson anywhere. I saw she was born in Ashland Wisconsin as was her brother Arther which I do not see much information on either.
Edward and Gurine are listed as the parents of bothe Ethel E Johnson and Arther G Johnson but I find very little about them.
I find about others in the family but not my connected people!
I will be thankful for any information.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 03:57:46
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Lets make sure we are researching the correct person. Is this the Edward Johnson you are interested in?
Edward Johnson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Edward Johnson
Birth Date: 1852
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 2 Apr 1929
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America
Cemetery: Mountain View Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Lakewood, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Gurine J Johnson
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 04:17:15
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The wife of Edward Johnson was named Gurine Brustad. The Berg name is from a wedding record of one of her children and was used by her when she emigrated from Noway. . Her parents are listed in a tree and given below. However that has some questions as she is listed as being born in 1857. The earlier thread needs to be read for the details of the parents of Gurine.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5236&SearchTerms=anton,brustad
Sivert Zachariassen Brustad
1838–1914
BIRTH 1838 • Ytterøy, Nord-Trondelag, Norway
DEATH 31 DEC 1914
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Anna Jonetta Jonsen Stokke
1834–1936
BIRTH 1 MAR 1834 • Steinkjer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway
Here is their marriage record.
Sivert Zachariassen Brustad
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Sivert Zachariassen Brustad
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Age: 47
Birth Date: 1838
Marriage Date: 31 mai 1885 (31 May 1885)
Marriage Place: Trondheim, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Zacharias Nilsen
Spouse: Anne Jonetta Johnsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282722
Reference ID: Bk2 P408 Cn24
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Edited by - AntonH on 08/02/2020 05:45:36 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 04:19:42
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The ancestry of Edward Johnson may be a bit harder to figure out.
Edward Johnson
in the Washington, Select Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: Edward Johnson
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Death Date: 2 Apr 1929
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
Father: John Johnson
Spouse: Gurnie Johnson
FHL Film Number: 2022650
Reference ID: 348 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 04:23:43
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Here is his record from the 1900 US Census.
Ed Johnson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Ed Johnson
Age: 47
Birth Date: Nov 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Little Falls Ward 2, Morrison, Minnesota
Ward of City: 2
Street: 7th Street
House Number: 806
Sheet Number: 7
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 118
Family Number: 127
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Gurino Johnson
Marriage Year: 1881
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 19
Naturalization: Na
Occupation: Day Laborer
Months Not Employed: 2
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: O
Home Free or Mortgaged: F
Farm or House: F
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ed Johnson 47
Gurino Johnson 43
Ethel Johnson 13
A Garfold Johnson 10 |
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NATaylorTurner
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 04:27:41
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Lets make sure we are researching the correct person. Is this the Edward Johnson you are interested in?
Edward Johnson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Edward Johnson
Birth Date: 1852
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 2 Apr 1929
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America
Cemetery: Mountain View Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Lakewood, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Gurine J Johnson
Yes, thank you lyndal40, this is the one. I see below already you have given clarity to the names. Who was a couple when married etc. (You guys work fast! :) )
When did they Immigrate, do you know? I don't think together is that correct? If I remember Gurine immigrated first and then when Edward immigrated they married?
Also curious about Gurine's parents, I know her Mom, Anna Jonetta immigrated but maybe Sivert died before? Would Anna come over by herself? or with other family?
Thanks,
Nancy
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Edited by - NATaylorTurner on 08/02/2020 04:36:59 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 04:38:20
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Gurine Johnson
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Gurine Johnson
Age: 28
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Goodhue
Locality: Wanamingo
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Race: White
Line: 19
Roll: MNSC_26 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 04:53:42
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Hmm, have we not already gone through this search some years ago I think a reading of your previous thread is in order before much more work is done.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5236&SearchTerms=anton,brustad
Perhaps you can read the earlier thread and tell us what further information you want rather than have us redo all the earlier work.
It seems to me that a lot of information was found on Gurine and her side of the family, but not much was found out about Edward Johnson. |
Edited by - AntonH on 08/02/2020 05:48:54 |
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NATaylorTurner
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 18:52:06
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I am looking for clarity. The notes you just sent me to says that Sivert and Anna Jonetta were married in 1885, but their daughter Gurine was born in 1857. Also Sivert was born in 1838, if this was their first marriage, kinda weird to be so old as well. Is it possible this was not their first marriages?
I was really trying to find out more about Edward A Johnson and Gurine J Johnson but all these questions about her parents and dates and siblings etc keep arising. I appreciate so much the help though. Was so glad to find this site and it has helped me a lot!
I have my Great Grandmothers marriage record and it clearly says her mother's maiden name was Gurine Berg. Have always questioned it. At first I thought that maybe it was her first marriage name but it didn't make sense. But is it possible that Anna Jonetta was married before ant that Severt Brustad is not her true father? Just the late date of Severt and Anna's marriage makes me wonder.
Thank you! I have a bunch more responses to go over so I will get to them and maybe get clarity from several more sources.
Nancy
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Hmm, have we not already gone through this search some years ago I think a reading of your previous thread is in order before much more work is done.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5236&SearchTerms=anton,brustad
Perhaps you can read the earlier thread and tell us what further information you want rather than have us redo all the earlier work.
It seems to me that a lot of information was found on Gurine and her side of the family, but not much was found out about Edward Johnson.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 22:45:37
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Thanks for the response Nancy. Perhaps many of the questions on Gurine can be answered from your early thread.
Your first question was
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I am looking for clarity. The notes you just sent me to says that Sivert and Anna Jonetta were married in 1885, but their daughter Gurine was born in 1857. Also Sivert was born in 1838, if this was their first marriage, kinda weird to be so old as well. Is it possible this was not their first marriages?
Gurine was born June 10, 1858 with the name Gurine Josephine. Mother is listed as Jonetta Johnsdatter Kolberg (Anna Jonette) father is listed as Bernt Kristophersen or Kristiansen Loftbergsplads.
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Anna Jonette was unmarried at the time that Gurine was born in 1858. Later in her life when Gurine was about 20 years old, Anna Jonette married Sivert Zachariassen Brustad. That was in 1885. Gurine was on her own by then. So Anna Jonette was the mother of Gurine but Sivert was only her step-father. Very little is known of the father of Gurine except that he was married at the time but not to Anna Jonette.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 23:11:42
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Your second question is about where does the name Berg come from.
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I have my Great Grandmothers marriage record and it clearly says her mother's maiden name was Gurine Berg. Have always questioned it. At first I thought that maybe it was her first marriage name but it didn't make sense
Yes Gurine did use the last name of Berg. It is unclear where the name came from.
In the 1865 Census she is named Gurine Berntsdatter after her father Bernt Kristophersen. She is working for a family in Inderøy as a servant girl (Tjenestepige}.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038342004751
In the 1875 Census she is again named Gurine Berntsdatter and is working for a family as a servant girl {Tjenestepige} in Trondheim.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052359008175
In 1881 is the first time I have found her using the last name Berg. She is called Gurine Berg when she left Trondheim for America. She was unmarried at the time.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000067393
Later in America she also used the last name Berg several times. I do not know why she used that name but Berg is quite a common name in Norway. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2020 : 23:17:13
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I was really trying to find out more about Edward A Johnson
Your third question is at present lacking much information. The only information, I have seen so far is various records but all of them in America. For example this 1900 US Census.
Ed Johnson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Ed Johnson
Age: 47
Birth Date: Nov 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Little Falls Ward 2, Morrison, Minnesota
Ward of City: 2
Street: 7th Street
House Number: 806
Sheet Number: 7
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 118
Family Number: 127
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Gurino Johnson
Marriage Year: 1881
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 19
Naturalization: Na
Occupation: Day Laborer
Months Not Employed: 2
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: O
Home Free or Mortgaged: F
Farm or House: F
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ed Johnson 47
Gurino Johnson 43
Ethel Johnson 13
A Garfold Johnson 10
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NATaylorTurner
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Posted - 09/02/2020 : 03:40:10
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Thank you so much this is new information for ma and it helps me at least have more knowledge that she did use Berg and why Sivert and Anna were married way after Gurine was born.
Thanks again, Nancy
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Thanks for the response Nancy. Perhaps many of the questions on Gurine can be answered from your early thread.
Your first question was
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I am looking for clarity. The notes you just sent me to says that Sivert and Anna Jonetta were married in 1885, but their daughter Gurine was born in 1857. Also Sivert was born in 1838, if this was their first marriage, kinda weird to be so old as well. Is it possible this was not their first marriages?
Gurine was born June 10, 1858 with the name Gurine Josephine. Mother is listed as Jonetta Johnsdatter Kolberg (Anna Jonette) father is listed as Bernt Kristophersen or Kristiansen Loftbergsplads.
#76
Anna Jonette was unmarried at the time that Gurine was born in 1858. Later in her life when Gurine was about 20 years old, Anna Jonette married Sivert Zachariassen Brustad. That was in 1885. Gurine was on her own by then. So Anna Jonette was the mother of Gurine but Sivert was only her step-father. Very little is known of the father of Gurine except that he was married at the time but not to Anna Jonette.
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NATaylorTurner
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Posted - 09/02/2020 : 03:42:51
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OK, a tad bit more info! Thanks, Nancy
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Originally posted by NATaylorTurner
Thank you so much this is new information for ma and it helps me at least have more knowledge that she did use Berg and why Sivert and Anna were married way after Gurine was born.
Thanks again, Nancy
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Thanks for the response Nancy. Perhaps many of the questions on Gurine can be answered from your early thread.
Your first question was
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I am looking for clarity. The notes you just sent me to says that Sivert and Anna Jonetta were married in 1885, but their daughter Gurine was born in 1857. Also Sivert was born in 1838, if this was their first marriage, kinda weird to be so old as well. Is it possible this was not their first marriages?
Gurine was born June 10, 1858 with the name Gurine Josephine. Mother is listed as Jonetta Johnsdatter Kolberg (Anna Jonette) father is listed as Bernt Kristophersen or Kristiansen Loftbergsplads.
#76
Anna Jonette was unmarried at the time that Gurine was born in 1858. Later in her life when Gurine was about 20 years old, Anna Jonette married Sivert Zachariassen Brustad. That was in 1885. Gurine was on her own by then. So Anna Jonette was the mother of Gurine but Sivert was only her step-father. Very little is known of the father of Gurine except that he was married at the time but not to Anna Jonette.
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NATaylorTurner
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Posted - 09/02/2020 : 03:57:53
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So I guess then that I am probably not going to find much more about Edward Johnson before he came to America? I was hoping to see siblings or more information on his parents etc. I think his middle initial was A and if I knew what it stood for it might help me find more info on the American sites I use, as probably like Norway, Edward Johnson is a very common name. Also was Johnson in Norway Johnson or Johnsen or something else?
I really do appreciate you helping me so much! This has great meaning to be able to do this for my Mom's 90th birthday.
Nancy
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Lets make sure we are researching the correct person. Is this the Edward Johnson you are interested in?
Edward Johnson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Edward Johnson
Birth Date: 1852
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 2 Apr 1929
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America
Cemetery: Mountain View Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Lakewood, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Gurine J Johnson
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jkmarler
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