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AntonH
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 Posted - 14/06/2020 : 21:50:55
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From Jackie and Tore on previous page
Karl Fredrik Karlssen Ross
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Karl Fredrik Karlssen Ross
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1868
Marriage Date: 17 des 1892 (17 Dec 1892)
Marriage Place: Barbu, Aust-Agder, Norway
Father: Karl Ross
Spouse: Helga Karoline Johannessen
FHL Film Number: 1283344
Reference ID: bk 1
Nr. 39
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060728010047
Helga Karoline Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Helga Karoline Johansen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 7 feb 1870
Baptism Date: 20 mar 1870
Baptism Place: Hisoy,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Johannes Jonasen
Mother: Bergithe Halvorsdr
FHL Film Number: 123545
Nr. 12
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060201010819 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/06/2020 : 22:18:07
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Carl Fredrik Roos
in the Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1859-1947
Name: Carl Fredrik
[Carl Fredrik Roos]
[Carl Fredrik Carlsson]
Gender: Man (Male)
Birth Date: 25 feb 1867
Birth Place: MO , Göteborg och Bohus (Västra Götaland), Sverige (Sweden)
Father: Carl Roos
Mother: Johanna Eriksdotter
Volume: 257
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Carl Fredrik Carlsson
in the Sweden, Select Baptisms, 1611-1920
Name: Carl Fredrik Carlsson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 mar 1867
Baptism Place: MO,Goteborg Och Bohus,Sweden
Father: Carl Roos
Mother: Johanna Eriksdr
FHL Film Number: 518524 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/06/2020 : 23:34:51
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Obit for Pethrine Berglund:
https://www.nb.no/items/a915596a65666298bddb2652563eccee?page=1&searchText=%22aron%20berglund%22
4 Jan 1922 Petrine Berglund:
SAK, Arendal byfogd, H/Ha/L0004: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1917-1926, p. 214-215
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10411112160110
11 Dec 1922 Thoralf Berglund:
SAK, Arendal byfogd, H/Ha/L0004: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1917-1926, p. 252-253
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10411112160130
In Petrine's I think is says that all the children are based in Arendal. Petrine's address is 11 Skytebanen, which still has a building there, hard to say if its the same structure now as then.
#126 Aron Berglund
SAK, Arendal byfogd, H/Ha/L0005: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1926-1935, s. 147-148
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10411112190079
Amalie is listed as living at Skytebanen 11, sister Thilla has died and her children are listed.
Sister-in-law Mathilde Berglund #76:
SAK, Arendal byfogd, H/Ha/L0005: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1926-1935, s. 167-168
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10411112190089
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/06/2020 : 23:50:43
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Another child of Carl Ros (Roos) from 1861
Ludvig Ros
in the Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1859-1947Name: Ludvig
[Ludvig Ros]
[Ludvig Carlsson]
Gender: Man (Male)
Birth Date: 18 okt 1861 (18 Oct 1861)
Birth Place: MO, Göteborg och Bohus (Västra Götaland), Sverige (Sweden)
Father: Carl Ros
Mother: Johanna Eriksdotter
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/06/2020 : 23:50:47
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#12 Amandus Sally Karlsen confirmation:
SAK, Arendal sokneprestkontor, Trefoldighet, F/Fb/L0007: Parish register (copy) no. B 7, 1916-1927, p. 103
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060509040219
Apparently the copyist made a mistake and switched the fathers on 11 and 12 and 13. But there is an additional piece of information that Karl Karlsen was Losarbeider. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 14/06/2020 23:55:17 |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 01:03:43
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Olanda Adolfa confirmation # 53
SAK, Arendal sokneprestkontor, Trefoldighet, F/Fb/L0007: Klokkerbok nr. B 7, 1916-1927, s. 157
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060509040273
Here Amalie is rendered as H for hustru. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 01:08:32
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In Agderposten, Onsdag 26 June 1946 there is this OCR read:
"kjære, elskede clatter Tutta Berg!und døde lykkelig i troen på Jesus. Arendal 23. juni 1946. Amalie Berglund. Begraves fra Arendals gravkapell fredag kl. 1. Stokken Alderstrvgden for juni utbetales fredag den "
I've been fooled before with OCR reads of things, is someone with the right ip able to look? |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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ToreL
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 15:32:02
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
#12 Amandus Sally Karlsen confirmation:
SAK, Arendal sokneprestkontor, Trefoldighet, F/Fb/L0007: Parish register (copy) no. B 7, 1916-1927, p. 103
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060509040219
Apparently the copyist made a mistake and switched the fathers on 11 and 12 and 13. But there is an additional piece of information that Karl Karlsen was Losarbeider.
Løsarbeider is a worker without a regular work contract; the same as a daglønner. In the 1900 census, (Karl) Fredrik Ros had the occupation of Sagarbeider Dagløn(ner), i.e., a saw(mill)-worker without a regular contract. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 15:54:35
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Parents Kal Ros and Johanna Ros are found in the 1910 Census in Arendal. Where is the family of Karl Fredrik Roos in 1910. Logicaly they would be in Barbu based on the baptism record s posted by Jackie above. But I have not fund them.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036543005836
But note what is written about the father: Assumed residence: Amerika
Here is his departure, on March 14 1903, the day before Amandus was baptised, and the very same day that Amalie's sister notified the priest.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 16:11:13
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So Tore, you are trying to say that Karl Ross the senior who was born in 1831 is the father of Amandus? Or just worth investigating further?
Here is Karl Ross' b 1831 FAG memorial:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/187581490
Name: Karl Ros
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1903
Birth Date: abt 1831
Age: 72
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swiss
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Celtic
His destination is to his son Charles Ross who lives at 48 Lasbeth (google correction to Lambeth) St in Brooklyn, New York.
Karl Ross sr's death from the Standard Union pub Thurs 30 Mar 1911 page 6 col 6:
"Body of Drowned Man Identified as Karl Ross
The remains of the drowned man found floating in the water near the foot of Thirty-ninth street yesterday, were identified last night as those of Karl Ross, 70 years old of 11 Hamilton Avenue, by Charles Carlson, a relative."
Then there is this person:
Name: Carl Ross
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1901
Birth Date: abt 1869
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: St Paul
He is going to his brother's, named Charles Ross', place at 47 Carroll Street |
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ToreL
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 16:53:07
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
So Tore, you are trying to say that Karl Ross the senior who was born in 1831 is the father of Amandus? Or just worth investigating further?
I Find the coincidence of the dates striking, but no, his son is still the better match. Now it remains to see when "Charles" arrived in New York, and whether that makes it technically possible for him to be Amandus's father.
Update: Now you added some info and it's getting complicated. Hopefully we can find something on the Norwegian side of Carl jr.'s emigration, if it happended. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/06/2020 : 17:20:37
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Karl's wife Johanna also seems to have travelled to New York
Johanna Ros
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Johanna Ros
Arrival Date: 8 Sep 1904
Birth Date: abt 1834
Age: 70
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Kristiansand
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Willehad
Last residence is listed as Arendal.
To husband Charles Charesen something 48 Brooklyn
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Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2020 17:29:38 |
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