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plnd94
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 Posted - 22/12/2020 : 03:20:03
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Which is the correct Torstein buried in Battleview North Dakota ? Find a Grave # 14402610.
Grave marker has birth date of 30 June 1859.
1. Torkel in Norway believes that Torstein was born in Mo, Kvam, Hordaland. Son of Ole Tostensen and Gyri Gjermundsdtr. Has exact same birth date 30 June 1859.
1865 census at Mo yttre in Kvam:
Nils 17yrs, Ingegjerd 10yrs, Torstein 7yrs, Guri 4yrs.
2. Family in USA believes Torstein was born on 18 April 1859 on Kjelstadmyren, Kjestad farm, Selbu, Sor Tondelag. Parents Ingeborg Torstensdtr and Ola Tostensen Slindmoen (not married).
1865 census Kjeslstadmyren - Halvor Olson 1817, Ingeborg Thosdtr 1807, Torsten Olsen 1859 foster son. (these are his mother's parents)
Which is the correct Torstein?
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~~Kay
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 10:31:56
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Rebuilding information on Tosten here (if the children and wife are as linked to in FAG), His marriage in Minnesota:
OTTER TAIL C-621 06/07/1883 MOE, TOSTEN O HANSON, INGEBORG
His children were all born in Minnesota. He is usually found with the name Tom or variants thereof.
Link to him and family in 1895 Minnesota census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQDY-XH5
In the 1895 census he says that he as lived in Minnesota for 20 years.
1885 census he lives at Norwegian Grove, Ottertail County, Minnesota and in the houshold is a 60+ year old woman named Gjyre G. Moe (indexed as Giyn):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQXK-D75
In the 1880 census also in Norwegian Grove he lives with an Axnes family with two other people named Moe:
Julia Moe servant Female 18 Norway
Thorsten Moe boarder Male 20Norway
John Moe servant Male 21Norway
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9J-D58
Torstein's marriage record in ELCA pastoral acts marriage database in Ancestry:
Name: Torsten O Moe
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 7 Jun 1883
Marriage Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Torstensen
Mother: Jon Giermann
Spouse: Ingeborg Hansen
Church Name: First English Lutheran
Church Location: Fergus Falls, Minnesota
In the actual record, Torsten's birthplace is given as "Hardangar" and his mother's name is more correctly transcribed as Juri Gjermundsdtr.
There is a funeral for a Gyri Gjermundsdatter Mo member of the North Immanuel Congregation in 1896. She is aged 72 and died 12 Jan 1896 housed with M. Axnes
Probably the Julia living with Torsten in the 1880 marriage:
Name: Julie Olsd MO
[Julie Olsd Thorstensen]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Place: Vikör Norge
Marriage Date: 30 Mar 1883
Marriage Place: Rothsay, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Thorstensen
Mother: Guri Gjermundsd
Spouse: Martin Bentsen
Church Name: South Immanuel Lutheran
Church Location: Rothsay, Minnesota
Julia as Guri's confirmation, birthdate is a misread of her age of 15 years and 7 months:
Name: Guri Olsd MO
Record Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 7 Dec 1815
Birth Place: Vikor Norge
Confirmation Date: 30 Sep 1877
Father: Ole Thorsdensen
Mother: Guri Gjermunsd
Church Name: South Immanuel Lutheran
Church Location: Rothsay, Minnesota
Thomas Moe's funeral is found in Bethlehem Lutheran church at Columbus, North Dakota. His birthplace is recorded in this record as "Hardangar" and his parents as "Mr. and Mrs. Moe. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 22/12/2020 13:11:12 |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 14:06:12
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Torstein in Kvam
1. matching birth date
2. Kvam( Vikoy) birthplace is part of Hardangar
3. matching parents names
4. arrival date 1875 close (1895 Minnesota census 20 years in Minnesota, 1900 census 1878)
I guess I'd wonder why the family thinks he's a guy from Selbu?
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plnd94
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 18:30:17
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Family linked on Find a Grave is correct from personal knowledge of myself and my cousins.
Amazing you found all this with all the different spellings! Thank you! Looks like KVAM it is.
Any clue about the Mikkel Axness connection? Buried at North Immanual, Norwegian Grove along with GURI AXNESS 1824-12 Jan 1896.
Could the connection be with Mikkel's wife - Herborg born 12 July 1845 (some Ancestry trees show her name as MOE or Ovre Byrkjeland - born at our KVAM - not reliable source, I know, but maybe a clue to check)
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 19:34:30
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There is a Herborg Nilsdatter living at Aksnæs, born in Viker in the 1865 Census.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038236000110
Here is the baptism of a child of Herborg's. She is called Herborg Nilson.
Melvin Axness
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Melvin Axness
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1880
Baptism Date: 25 Mar 1880
Baptism Place: Rothsay, Minnesota, USA
Father: Mikkel Axness
Mother: Herborg Nilson
Church Name: South Immanuel Lutheran
Church Location: Rothsay, Minnesota |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 19:40:41 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 19:47:31
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Here is the FAG for Herborg. I do not think the birth date is correct.
Herborg M Axness
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Herborg M Axness
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1845
Death Date: 16 Nov 1926
Cemetery: North Immanuel Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Norwegian Grove, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Mikkel O Axness
Children: Benhard N Axness
Nels Sever Axness
Julius Axness
Melvin M. Axness |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 19:52:02
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Here is the only Herborg born in 1845 to a Nils in Kvam (Vikøy). Farm is Mo so that may be correct
Nr. 31
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610010
Herborg Nilsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Herborg Nilsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 mai 1845 (22 May 1845)
Baptism Date: 25 mai 1845 (25 May 1845)
Baptism Place: Kvam, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Nils Olsen
Mother: Gyri Gjermundsdr
FHL Film Number: 278069
Reference ID: 2:KHP14L
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 19:52:37 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 20:02:52
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Gyri Gjermundsdatter had only one child with Nils Olsen according to Ancestry data base. But a Guri Gjermundsdatter did have several children with Ole Torstensen including a Nils in 1849 and
Tosten Olesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Tosten Olesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 jan 1854
Baptism Date: 29 jan 1854
Baptism Place: Kvam, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Ole Tostensen
Mother: Gyri Gjermundsdr
FHL Film Number: 278069
Reference ID: 2:KHPPQG
Nr. 5 , farm is also Mo
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610053 |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 20:57:09 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 21:03:29
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And the Tosten Olsen born 30 June 1859. Parents are the same Ole Torstensen Mo and Guri Gjermandsdatter.
Nr. 44
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610092 |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 22:20:00 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 21:06:03
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Guri married Ole Torstensen in 1847.
Gyri Gjermundsdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Gyri Gjermundsdr
[Gyri Tostensen]
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1822
Marriage Date: 15 apr 1847
Marriage Place: Kvam,Hordaland,Norway
Father: Gjermund Tostensen
Spouse: Ole Tostensen
FHL Film Number: 278069
Nr. 2
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610221
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 21:08:09
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Probably the same Guri (Guri) Gjermundsdatter in an earlier marriage to Nils Olsen.
Gyri Gjermundsdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Gyri Gjermundsdr
[Gyri Tostensen]
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1822
Marriage Date: 28 mai 1844 (28 May 1844)
Marriage Place: Kvam,Hordaland,Norway
Father: Gjermund Tostensen
Spouse: Nils Olsen
FHL Film Number: 278069
Nr. 11
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610214
I would say that this Nils Olsen died in 1845.
Nr. 4
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610124
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 22:01:05 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 22:04:23
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Any clue about the Mikkel Axness connection? Buried at North Immanual, Norwegian Grove along with GURI AXNESS 1824-12 Jan 1896.
Could the connection be with Mikkel's wife - Herborg born 12 July 1845 (some Ancestry trees show her name as MOE or Ovre Byrkjeland - born at our KVAM - not reliable source, I know, but maybe a clue to check)
So Herborg Nilsdatter and Tosten Oleson are half-siblings. Same mother Gyri Gjermundsdatter but different fathers.
Probably the emigration of Herborg in 1869 from Bergen.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/194/pe00000000346934
Herberg Nilson Moe
in the Canada, Arriving Passengers Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Herberg Nilson Moe
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1843
Arrival Date: May 1869
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Louise Kôhn
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 22:16:08 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 22:31:05
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quote:
Probably the Julia living with Torsten in the 1880 marriage:
Name: Julie Olsd MO
[Julie Olsd Thorstensen]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Probably the baptism of Guri (Julie) in 1862
Guri Olesdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Guri Olesdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 8 mai 1862 (8 May 1862)
Baptism Date: 18 mai 1862 (18 May 1862)
Baptism Place: Kvam, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Ole Tostensen
Mother: Guri Gjermundsdr
FHL Film Number: 278069
Reference ID: 2:KHQGCP
Nr. 27
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610109
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/12/2020 22:35:31 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/12/2020 : 22:51:36
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Here is the FAG for Mikkel Olsen Axness
Mikkel O Axness
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Mikkel O Axness
Birth Date: 24 Sep 1844
Death Date: 27 Oct 1935
Cemetery: North Immanuel Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Norwegian Grove, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Herborg M Axness
Children: Benhard N Axness
Nels Sever Axness
Julius Axness
Melvin M. Axness
Here are two candidates for his baptism. Both with Ole as a father and both born in September of 1844. But neither on 24 of September.
Mikkel Olesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Mikkel Olesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 sep 1844
Baptism Date: 8 sep 1844
Baptism Place: Kvam, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Ole Olsen
Mother: Britha Berthalsdr
FHL Film Number: 278069
Reference ID: 2:KHNXXC
Mikkel Olesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Mikkel Olesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 sep 1844
Baptism Date: 15 sep 1844
Baptism Place: Kvam, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Ole Mikkelsen
Mother: Ingegjer Arnesdr
FHL Film Number: 278069
Reference ID: 2:KHNXZJ
Nr. 42 and Nr. 43
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070222610006
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AntonH
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Torstein Olsen Moe 1859-1923
