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TWheeler
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 Posted - 24/06/2022 : 05:26:37
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Hello,
I am wondering if anyone can help me figure out the next step tracing my Great Great Grandfather's paternal line. My gg grandfather was Jens Antonius Olsen Rostad (b 1876 in Rødø and died in 1953 in Winnipeg, Canada). I have located two birth records for him:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000028211114
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000031915865
I am having a hard time knowing where to go with he information about his father. In one record he is just listed as Ole Evensen, from Melhus parish, and in the other Ole Evensen Rostad, domiciled in Molhus. Provided I am searching/reading properly, it looks like my gg grandfather was illegitimate and my ggg grandparents never married.
Where would it make sense for me to look for him next? Should I be trying to find him on a Rostad farm, looking in Melhus, or keep searching in Nordland? If anyone has any tips I would be most appreciative! |
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ToreL
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Posted - 24/06/2022 : 09:29:00
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This was just after the 1875 census, so a good first step would be to locate the parents there. At the baptism, the mother's domicile is given as Kilboghavn. At the census, there is one Elisabeth Johansen, daughther of Johan Jakobsen at Kilboghavn. The "Johansen" (as opposed to Johansdtr) surname/patronymic is clearly an error, given that the father's name was Johan Jakobsen, so that taken into account, this is a perfect match.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052421002010 |
Edited by - ToreL on 24/06/2022 09:31:41 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 24/06/2022 : 10:03:20
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Here is one possible (though a little old?) match for Ole at Melhus: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052374003603
The problem is I can't spot anything making the o into an ø in the original baptism record. Another unknown is whether Evensen is a patronymic, or a surname inherited from his father. |
Edited by - ToreL on 24/06/2022 10:38:57 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 24/06/2022 : 11:33:36
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Another Ole Evensen, living at Rofstad(stuen) in Melhus: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052374001399
A better candiate, as he was a house builder and more likely to move around. This one also had a son out of wedlock in 1877: Transcribed and Original, #9, left.. The record says this is the first child out of wedlock for both, but the priest wouldn't necessarily know.
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/06/2022 : 21:08:19
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better candiate, as he was a house builder and more likely to move around. This one also had a son out of wedlock in 1877: Transcribed and Original, #9, left.. The record says this is the first child out of wedlock for both, but the priest wouldn't necessarily know.
This record indicates a birth year of about 1847. Searching Ancestry.com for Ole father Even born in Melhus 1847 +/- 5 years turn up
Name: Ole Evensen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 des 1844 (27 Dec 1844)
Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1845
Baptism Place: Melhus, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father:
Even Larsen
Mother:
Gurtrud Johannesdatter
Name: Ole Evensen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1842
Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1842
Baptism Place: Melhus, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father:
Even Arentsen
Mother:
Gjertrud Olsdatter
Name: Ole Evensen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1852
Baptism Date: 10 okt 1852 (10 Oct 1852)
Baptism Place: Melhus, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father:
Even Christofersen
Mother:
Sigrid Olsdatter
A quick glance at the original records, I did not see any reference to the Rostad farm?
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ToreL
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Posted - 24/06/2022 : 23:02:25
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Anton: Of the three baptisms you list at Melhus, it is the first (child born Dec 27 1844) that matches the Ole Evensen living at Rofstadstuen in 1875. The transcription of this baptism gives the mother as Gurtrud Johannesdatter (as opposed to Gunnhild Johannesdatter in the 1875 census) which is no wonder given the sorry condition of the original (#24) baptism record. The corresponding 1859 confirmation record (#5) is more readable, and gives the mother's first name as Gunhilld. (But gets her patronymic wrong.)
But if this Ole Evensen Rofstad was really the father of Jens Antonius, it would mean that Jens Antonius' mother had gotten Ole's last name wrong, hearing Rostad instead of Rofstad. Since Jens Antonius later adopted the surname Rostad, it could not just be a matter of the priest getting the name wrong. So I don't know... |
Edited by - ToreL on 24/06/2022 23:16:11 |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/06/2022 : 16:25:35
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Originally posted by ToreL
Anton: Of the three baptisms you list at Melhus, it is the first (child born Dec 27 1844) that matches the Ole Evensen living at Rofstadstuen in 1875. The transcription of this baptism gives the mother as Gurtrud Johannesdatter (as opposed to Gunnhild Johannesdatter in the 1875 census) which is no wonder given the sorry condition of the original (#24) baptism record. The corresponding 1859 confirmation record (#5) is more readable, and gives the mother's first name as Gunhilld. (But gets her patronymic wrong.)
But if this Ole Evensen Rofstad was really the father of Jens Antonius, it would mean that Jens Antonius' mother had gotten Ole's last name wrong, hearing Rostad instead of Rofstad. Since Jens Antonius later adopted the surname Rostad, it could not just be a matter of the priest getting the name wrong. So I don't know...
Here is a marriage in Bakkalandet for an Ole Evensen Rofstad in 1879 father named Even Larsen Refsten.:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000008284884
re Rofstad vs Rostad, also consider is might actually be spelled Rosstad, since a number of entries are indexed by non Norwegians who might mistake SS for FS. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 25/06/2022 : 16:57:39
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Jens Antonius' own marriage record in Kampen, Oslo in 1899. (Dissenters.) Third from bottom: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060717020215
It looks like his father Ole Evensen Rostad's occupation is given as Bygmester; master builder, which somehow matches Ole Evensen Rofstad's occupation in 1875 as hustømmermand; house carpenter. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 25/06/2022 : 17:32:37
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| Ole Evensen Rofstad's Geni profile It looks like he emigrated in 1882, and his wife and mother came after in 1884. |
Edited by - ToreL on 25/06/2022 17:45:49 |
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