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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 02/11/2019 :  03:45:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, I am having a tough time locating when my Great grandfather, ole Jensen left Norway. Widowed mother died in 1866, Ole would have been 25. Family has deep roots in Notteroy. Anyone have access to records?

Thank you.

Matty B

jkmarler
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Posted - 02/11/2019 :  05:24:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any one and every one who has internet can access the records of Norway.

Where have you looked? Is your Ole any of these?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&m%5B%5D=0722&firstname=ole&lastname=jensen&birth_year_from=&birth_year_to=&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=

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Kåarto
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Posted - 02/11/2019 :  10:52:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nøtterøy

Edited by - Kåarto on 02/11/2019 10:53:02
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/11/2019 :  00:08:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It appears that Anton's possible is already out of his parents house by 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038119004311

The other thing is, if target Ole Jensen was a sailor, as was his father, there might not be any record of his "migration."


Edited by - jkmarler on 03/11/2019 00:10:08
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 16/11/2019 :  05:13:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I found him leaving June 14, 1867 on the SS Oder to Hull. From Hurdals-Brustad. Google earth shows north of Oslo.

Matty B
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 16/11/2019 :  05:35:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much.
No record of what ship Ole went to NY on. Most likely an Inman liner but not on any lists.
Jonette, his wife travels in 1868.
The show up on a 1875 Minnesota census.
1880 census shows Jonette head of household and widowed.
No death records can be found.

Matty B
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2019 :  05:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you've given up Notteroy for Hurdal?

This them in Ottertail county?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNG-VJY

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/11/2019 05:42:17
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2019 :  05:59:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the Hurdal Ole Jensen is yours and if he was living in Hurdal in 1865, this is most likely him:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038026003177

And this Jonette from Hurdalen?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000000539

#33 utflyttedes:
SAO, Hurdal prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0006: Parish register (official) no. I 6, 1860-1877, p. 228
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060308030198

Jonette in 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038026000476

Edited by - jkmarler on 18/11/2019 02:06:13
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lyndal40
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Posted - 16/11/2019 :  16:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mattbutenhof, I transferred this from the post of NancyC. It is easier for us to help you if you put all of the information on Ole Jensen in one post.

Norway Heritage

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This is the exact problem I am having.
Left Christiana June 14, 1867. I think it was 2 days to Hull. Maybe Liverpool by June 15. New York by 20-21? City of Boston or Antwerp. Could not find Ole Jensen.
I’ll keep trying


What makes you think they went to new york rather than Canada?

Edited by - lyndal40 on 16/11/2019 17:19:28
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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  01:14:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the arrival manifest for Jonette Evensdatter on the Refondo into Quebec. Arrival is June 1868. Number 17.

[url=https://postimages.org/][/url]

Read the original as

Pige Jonette Evensdatter, Pige meaning a unmarried woman.

The Transcriber came close with this transcription.

Peyen Janette Emusdattin
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Peyen Janette Emusdattin
Arrival Date: Jun 1868
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Refondo


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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  01:59:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely Ole Jensen leaving Oslo on the Argo? His emigration date is listed as June 14 of 1867, however the Norway Heritage shows the Argo leaving on June 7 and June 21 and the ship leaving on the 14th of June is the Oder. Destination is New York

Link

The Norway Heritage lists for the Oder shows him leaving on July 14 and it also shows him just above the Toyen family (same as the Toxen or Foxes depending on which source you are using.

#3568

Likely arrived in New York on July 1, 1867 on the City of Baltimore

Edited by - lyndal40 on 17/11/2019 03:57:21
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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  02:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Lauritz Næsterud as the record next to Ole Jens. also leaving on the Argo destination New York, date of emigration also 6-14-1867.

Link

Here is likely his arrival record from Ancestry.com.

Laur Nastend
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Laur Nastend
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1867
Birth Date: abt 1849
Age: 18
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Baltimore

Many other people leaving Oslo on June 14, 1867 are found on the City of Baltimore arriving in New York on July 1, 1867. That include a family with the last name of Toxen. They are listed as Foxes by the transcriber. They are a family of five with the easier to find Eli.

Here is Eli and family leaving on June 14.

Eli

Eli Foxes
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Eli Foxes
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1867
Birth Date: abt 1850
Age: 17
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Baltimore

So somewhere on the ship manifest for the City of Baltimore is likely to be found Ole Jensen.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 17/11/2019 03:07:37
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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  03:23:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely Ole Jensen just above the Foxes family.

[url=https://postimages.org/][/url]

So here is how the Transcriber listed him

Olh Janson
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957Name: Olh Janson
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1867
Birth Date: abt 1842
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Baltimore

I think you can ignore the Nationality of German as it seems any one who was not English or Irish was labelled German in the passenger lists.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 17/11/2019 03:32:32
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  20:54:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many thanks friends,
Family living in Notteroy.
Father is lost at sea when ole is 8 yrs old.
Does mom and kids move?
Mom dies 1866. I believe ole is married to a Jonette, no proof but there are church baptisms in Minneasota and no marriage records so assuming Norway wedding.
Ole leaves in 1867
Who is Jonette living with in Eidvold when she leaves in 1868
The Quebec trip then to Chicago makes sense except she would have been listed as Jonette Andresen.
She would have arrived in September since she left Oslo on July 21.
Ancestry has her father as Larkin Andresen born in Oslo.


Matty B

Edited by - mattbutenhoff on 17/11/2019 21:14:59
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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  23:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would have to say that the information that you have given us so far does not hang together well. Is Ole from Notteroy or Hudal. What is Joneettes maiden name? The data from Ancestry. would indicate that her father is named Anders, so the Jonetter found by Jackie in 1865 in Hurdal can not be the right one.

Perhaps we need to go back to square one and begin from the beginning to see who Ole and Jonette really are.

I see from your Tree on Ancestry.com that you believe Ole Jensen was born Dec 27, 1841 in Nøtterøy, Vestfold. That would likely be this one, Ole Christian father is Jens Syverten and mother is Elen Magrethe Olsdatter.

Transcribed data.

Jens Christian

The original record would seem to me to indicate he was actually born in 1840 and baptized on Jan 5, 1841.

#2

He was confirmed in Nøtterøy in 1856, where his birth date is listed as Dec 27, 1840.

#4

The parents married in 1835

Link

Probably the mother in the 1865 Census, father is deceased?

!865

Why do you think that this person is the same as Ole Jensen from Minnesota.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 18/11/2019 23:24:27
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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  23:42:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This record from Ancestry.com would indicate that Jonette has a father named Anders.

Johnny Jenson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969Name: Johnny Jenson
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1871
Baptism Date: 19 May 1871
Baptism Place: Elbow Lake, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jenson
Mother: Johnette Anders
Church Name: Pelican Lake Lutheran
Church Location: Ashby, Minnesota

Marie Jenson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Marie Jenson
Record Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1870
Birth Place: Minnesota, USA
Confirmation Date: 13 Apr 1884
Father: Ole Jenson
Mother: Jonethe Anderson
Church Name: Trefoldighet Lutheran
Church Location: Ottertail County, Minnesota

Edited by - lyndal40 on 18/11/2019 00:20:21
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