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ariordan
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 Posted - 19/09/2013 : 12:19:29
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borrudn
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 18:57:36
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Near Norsewood and Everyone else.
I am curious of all relatives related to Roald Amundsen.
I am the grandson of Albert Amundsen.
I apoligize but I cannot read Norwegian. I have a huge family tree and there is documents of our relation. My grandfather moved her and changed our last name. Any info would help. |
Nathan Borrud |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 19:29:18
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Originally posted by borrudn
My grandfather moved her and changed our last name. Any info would help.
Ditto here. You may want to start a new topic. Be sure to nclude information about your grandfather, dates and places and we'll see what we can find. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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borrudn
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 06:05:07
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I don't know why it resent it.
All I know is my grandfather was Albert Borrud. Born Albert Amundsen in Norway. He told my father that our great great uncle was Roald Amundsen. Both my father and grandfather have passed on but I have a son that is like to share my heritage with. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2014 : 06:07:11
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Nathan, you may edit or take out any of your own posts.
So Albert Borrud was from Williston area of North Dakota?
There appears to be only one Albert Borrud in US records. He was born 1925 in North Dakota. He was the son of Hjalmer Olson Børrud. Hjalmer was born in Norway at Eidskog and is in the list of children in the 1900 Norwegian census the link to which I posted before.
Was your father David Borrud? This snippet from newslibrary.com:
Bismarck Tribune, The (ND) - December 23, 2010
David Borrud
WILLISTON David A. Borrud, 58, Williston, died Dec. 18, 2010, at the Mercy Medical Center, Williston. Cremation has taken place and there will be a memorial service held at a later date.He is survived by his fiancee, Martha Krueger, Williston; his sons, Nathan and Bryan, both of Fargo; his mother, Mary, Williston; his sister, Debra Borrud, Chandler, Ariz.; three brothers, Tom, Brier, Wash., Tim, Gilbert, Ariz., and Darryl, Williston; and three grandchildren. (Everson Funeral Home
Here is Albert Borrud in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMSM-FXS
If you click on the link on the 1940 transcription page you may see more details about Albert and his family members on that image.
The Williston Graphic is a newspaper which is mounted at the Chronicling America website and is freely searchable. I just tried searching for Borrud and found this listing announcing Hjalmer Borrud, from Ray, opening a bakery in Williston:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88076270/1913-06-19/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1836&index=12&rows=20&words=Borrud&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=North+Dakota&date2=1922&proxtext=borrud&y=9&x=11&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Here is Hjalmer, the bager = baker, coming to America in 1906:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=179674&merk=179674#ovre |
Edited by - jkmarler on 21/01/2014 08:14:51 |
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borrudn
Starting member
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 09:19:57
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Jk market u are correct!
My father was David Borrud.
Bakery burned down by fireworks. Hjalmer was my great grandfather. But since I can't read Norwegian very well can u tell if and how hjalmer is related to Roald Amundsen? |
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borrudn
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 09:31:45
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I was informed by my father that Hjalmer changed his last name from Amundsen to Borrud because there was too many Amundsen's. He also said it was given two R's in our last nameinstead of 1 R because there were Borud's in williston aalready. No relation..
But my father told my brother and I that we were great great great nephews of Roald Amundsen. But I can't find any proof. At least not in English. I hope others can see if I am.
JK Marler you have been very helpful and I appreciated the time you have put into it. |
Nathan Borrud |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2014 : 14:53:08
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Originally posted by borrudn
But since I can't read Norwegian very well can u tell if and how hjalmer is related to Roald Amundsen?
Having seen many, many, many of the family stories of connection to Roald Amundson vetted here at norwayheritage, exceedingly few have any basis in fact.
Here is a link to a Roald Amundson genealogical page:
http://www.oddmarthinsen.no/tng/getperson.php?personID=4824&tree=tre1
There are 2 Ole Amundson listed. One is a brother who has Ole as one of his middle names. He is born in 1866 in China. The other is Roald's grandfather Ole Amundson who was born in 1793. Your Ole Amundson was born in Eidskog, Hedmark fylke Norway in 1840. So there is no basic matchup there in information:
Hushald nr. Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Busett Fam. stilling Sivilstand Yrke Fødd år Fødestad Nasjonalitet Trussamf.
1535 1 Ole Amundsen m b Hf g Gårdbruger S 1840 T N S
1536 Berthea Eriksdtr. k b Hm g Gårdmandskone 1842 T N S
1537 Hans Olsen m b S ug Jordbrugs og skogarbeider 1872 T N S
1538 Hjalmar Olsen m b S ug Jordbrugs og skogarbeider 1884 T N S
1539 Peter Olsen m b S ug 1886 T N S
In the census and on his departure record you see that Hjalmar is listed as an Olsen not an Amundson. The reason for that is the majority of Norwegians of that time were still practicing a patronymic naming system. Hjalmar was an Olsen because his father's first name was Ole. Ole's father's first name was Amund, that is why he was an Amundsen and so on. To investigate further the Roald Amundsen connection you'd have to find Ole Amundsen's father's patronymic and birthplace to see if there is any overlap.
Eidskog, Hedmark (where your family originates) is a different place than Børge, Østfold (where Roald Amundson's family originates). True people can and do move within Norway but any association between your family and Roald's family would have to be born out in the records.
Here is your Ole Amundsen in the 1910 Norwegian census. His birthdate is given as 11 Oct 1840:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036404001793
Eidskog was created in 1864 from Vinger and Vinger is where Ole Amundsen's birth and baptism were recorded #209:
Source information: Hedmark county, Vinger, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1839-1847), Birth and baptism records 1840, page 38.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9135&idx_id=9135&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
Ole's father is listed as Amund Bergerson. If you search in the Roald Amundson database linked to above, you find no Amund Bergerson.
So just on the basis of this superficial study, I'd say there is no immediate connection between your family and Roald Amundsen. That there could be in generations further back is possible but that would only be evidenced by an exacting study of your family. In the meantime I think it would be a better appreciation of your heritage to value Hjalmar's accomplishments--the first man to bring a 200 cookie per hour making machine to Williston, North Dakota! That's real. The world owes more to cabins than castles....
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borrudn
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 21:27:50
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| Thank u so much Jk marler |
Nathan Borrud |
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SamHolmgren95
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USA
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Posted - 26/01/2015 : 23:49:22
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Hello Nathan,
My name is Samuel Holmgren. If I am correct, we are 3rd cousins. I would love to connect with you.
It wouldn't let me message you on here because it said "You don't have enough posts to send an email"? My email address is: samholmgren95@gmail.com.
I hope to hear from you soon,
Sam |
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JeanetteCarlson
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USA
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Posted - 05/04/2023 : 19:36:29
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He is my 5th great uncle I can help you with his ancestry.
I don't know if I can give you my email or phone number on here so I'm not going to leave it right now. |
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Roald Amundsen (1872-1928), Norwegian Explorer
