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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/05/2023 :  15:24:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This may be Didrika's mother Johanna Ellevsdatter in the 1801 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058434008623

Probably not, as she is dying here:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000001887688

Another possible uaegte child to Johanna Ellefsdatter #96
Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, SAT/A-1456/601/L0045: Ministerialbok nr. 601A13, 1821-1831, s. 27
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#11 marriage Johanna's patronymic here as Ellingsdatter rather than Ellefsdatter
Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, SAT/A-1456/601/L0045: Ministerialbok nr. 601A13, 1821-1831, s. 282
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Johanne Ellefsdatter wife of Peter Gudde in the 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038310010770

Didrika not with them.


Peter Gudde, wife and son in 1871 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053367021126

Newspaper announcement of death of wife Johanna Gudde, aged 86 in 1877:
https://www.nb.no/items/85fc82c5655adf0f31e61be17c586941?page=1&searchText=%22johanne%20gudde%22

birth & baptism of Johanna Ellevsdatter 3rd entry 1791:
Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, SAT/A-1458/723/L0232: Ministerialbok nr. 723A03, 1781-1804, s. 50
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Edited by - jkmarler on 29/05/2023 14:56:07
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 29/05/2023 :  05:54:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Mike,

I fear that I have bad news. I would believe that Johann Diedrich Lampe was born sometime before 1801, somewhere in Bremen. However, since he was a merchant, he could have really been from anywhere. Nonetheless, there appear to be some records of a Johann Diedrich Lampe on Ancestry.com, which requires a membership, but currently, my World Explorer membership is expired. Next time that I activate it, I will take a look at those records

However, without any more details about Johann, it would be hard to confirm him. Therefore, I'd say any Diederich or Johan are out of the picture, but I still included what I found. The Ancestry records would be the most promising because at least in that case you have two first names, which makes it more likely to confirm.

I would like to give you some history. At the time Bremen, a free city since 1800, and the surrounding regions had undergone several wars and foreign occupations, from Sweden to Denmark to France. Around 1813, with the Battle of Leipzig when the French withdrew, Bremen became part of the German Confederation in 1815. Denmark didn't only lose Bremen to France as part of the Napoleonic Wars from 1803 to 1815, but Denmark also lost Norway in 1814. I would also assume that Johann Diedrich was a merchant that traveled from the Bremen harbor to the Trondheim harbor for trade. I would say the Napoleonic Wars probably also had something to do with his emigration from Germany.

A few Baptism Records between 1774 and 1803, that may be a match:

- Lampe, Diederich Kirchhuchting, Bremen, Germany in 1786
- Lampe, Diederich Kirchhuchting, Bremen, Germany in 1803
- Lampe, Johann Oberneuland, Bremen, Germany in 1788
- Lampe, Johann Oberneuland, Bremen, Germany in 1774
- Lampe, Johann Rablinghausen, Bremen, Germany in 1802

Ancestry.com

- Johann Diedrich Lampe in 1771
Bremen, Germany and Hannover, Prussia, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1574-1945, Birth, baptism & christening
- Johann Diedrich Lampe in 1773
Bremen, Germany and Hannover, Prussia, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1574-1945, Birth, baptism & christening
- Johann Diedrich Ebeling Lampe in 1778
Bremen, Germany and Hannover, Prussia, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1574-1945, Birth, baptism & christening
- Johann Diedrich Lampe in 1778
Bremen, Germany and Hannover, Prussia, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1574-1945, Birth, baptism & christening

Edited by - dylankylesimon on 29/05/2023 05:56:20
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/05/2023 :  20:47:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ToreL

Kjøpmand Didrick Lampe from Bremen also had a daughter baptized in Trondhjem Cathedral i 1820: #72



Most likely Didricka's death # 11 on girls page:
Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, SAT/A-1458/723/L0234: Ministerialbok nr. 723A05 /1, 1816-1840, s. 101
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