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Mlysmith
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 Posted - 17/04/2014 : 02:55:50
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Hi,
I just recently discovered the Norwegian branch of my family tree. It's been an interesting journey. My mom's father was mentally ill which my grandmother didn't know until after they were married. When she approached his family for help, they pretty much told her that he was her problem now and the relationship went downhill from there. As a result, there was a huge gap in our family history. I've been able to piece some of it together and through a google search, I discovered that my 4th great grandfather was Bard Jonson Lassehaug, one of the early settlers in Chicago. He came from Voss in 1837. His daughter Signey married John Gittleson, a sailmaker and businessman in Chicago. According to "History of Norwegians in Illinois", John was a member of the Norwegian Old Settlers Society and arrived in 1850 but there's no information on where he came from. I'm not quite sure where to look next, I'm fairly certain that Gittleson is the americanized spelling (because on my great grandmother's birth certificate her name is spelled Gettleson) so I'm hoping maybe someone here might have a better idea of where I should look next?
Thanks,
Michelle Smith |
Edited by - Mlysmith on 17/04/2014 02:57:21 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 03:06:31
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There is a series of books written by Gerhard Naeseth titled Norwegian Immigrants to the United States 1825-1850 A Biographical Directory in which research has been gathered on Norwegians who came to US in those years. I have access and I will look to see if John Gittleson is in there and report (only not tonight)
The Norwegian naming system is patronymic mostly so it's likely that John's father's first name was Gittle or something like that. Kittil (so Kittilson) or Gisla (so Gislason) etc.
What do you know about John, birthdate, deathdate etc?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 08:55:01
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Baar Joensen, Lassehoug, his wife Inger Andersdatter and their 7 children moving out from Voss in 1837, see #33-41 - children on next page.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 09:26:07
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John Gitlesons wife Signey (Sygnie) was born Jan 14 1832, see #42.
Her parents Baar Johnsen and Inger Andersdatter were married June 24 1817, see 5th record on right page. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 09:37:22
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Baar Joensen, his parents and siblings on Rokne, store in 1801.
Baar was baptized Jan 1 1795, see 4th record on right page. Parents Joen Baarsen and Søgni Anfindsdatter, Rogne.
Joen Baarsen and Sygni Anfindsdatter were married June 11 1793, see 2nd record on left page.
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Edited by - eibache on 17/04/2014 10:06:48 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 09:48:53
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Inger (Ingier) Andersdatter was baptized July 14 1793, see 3rd record on right page.
Her parents were Anders Tostensen and Brita Olsdatter, nedre Kyte.
Inger Andersdatter, her parents and siblings in 1801.
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Edited by - eibache on 17/04/2014 09:49:25 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 09:52:15
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quote:
Originally posted by eibache
Baar Joensen, Lassehoug, his wife Inger Andersdatter and their 7 children moving out from Voss in 1837, see #33-41 - children on next page.
A marriage record or a death record (07 Jan 1897) or obituary might name a person's parents. Have you tried ordering a copy of his original death record?
Bio of Baard Jonson Rogne or Lassehaug b 1794.
Witnesses / sponsors at the baptisms of his children might be siblings or extended family members of John.
A transcription of the record eibache posted, Utflytta frå Voss 1837-1864 here
Emigration registration 22 April 1837, 18 April 1837
Baar Jonsen Lassehaug 42
Inger Andersdatter Lassehaug 44
Jon Aanesen 18
Bridta Baarsdatter 16
Anders Baarsen 14
Marta Baarsdatter 11
Anfind Baarsen 8
Sygni Baarsdatter 5
Inger Baarsdatter 3 |
Edited by - JaneC on 17/04/2014 13:56:39 |
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Mlysmith
Starting member
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 14:02:46
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| Thanks for all the input, some of the info is new so I'm going to go through and fill in the gaps and keep plugging away at it. A lot of times I just get lucky and a different spelling will open things up. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 17:47:49
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Here is the arrival of Baard Johnson and his family into America. The transcriber had great difficulty with this family but if you look at the orgianl manuscript you can clearly see the family with the correct names and ages. This is the transcribed record for Signe.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Agne Baardatter
Arrival Date: 15 Aug 1837
Birth Date: abt 1832
Age: 5
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Gothenburg, Sweden
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 19:55:52
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Baar Jonsen father, Jon Baarsen, was baptized Dec 18 1763, see 3rd record from the bottom of second column. His father was Baar Fannestølen.
Sygnie Anfindsdatter was baptized Oct 14 1772, 3rd record from bottom on right page.
Her parents were Anfind Erichsen and Maritha Larsdatter, Rogne.
The parents and siblings in 1801.
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Edited by - eibache on 17/04/2014 20:17:03 |
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Mlysmith
Starting member
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 20:30:18
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| I combed through the city directories for Chicago this morning and from 1861 on he's listed. So I have his home addresses which might help in finding him on the census. He worked for Gilbert Hubbard and Co for over 20 years so maybe that will lead somewhere as well. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/04/2014 : 23:34:23
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It looks like I'll have to give up the idea I've been working on that John Gittleson came from Voss....
From Historie om Udvandringen fra Voss og Vossingerne i Amerika by K.A. Rene, published Madison, Wisconsin 1930 pg 114:
"...Sygni B. Johnson, født i 1832, blev gift i Chicago med John Gjetleson (Stavanger), velkjendt forretning paa S. Water street, Chicago, der døde den 7de januar 1897 og er begraven paa Graceland gravplads. Han var en af stifterne af Nora-foreningen i 1860." |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/04/2014 : 02:52:07
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Although this John Gitleson is found in the 1865 census, I still include him as a possible for John Gittleson in Chicago, #6 b April 1832:
Source information: Rogaland county, Nærem/Nærbø in Hå, Parish register (official) nr. A 4.1 /1 (1826-1841), Birth and baptism records men 1833, page 10.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15803&idx_id=15803&uid=ny&idx_side=-9
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Edited by - jkmarler on 19/04/2014 14:22:58 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Hit the wall--John Gittleson, Chicago
