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ngerdrum
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 Posted - 01/09/2014 : 00:41:27
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| I was looking for more history on the Gjerdrum farm in Norway. Our last family tree shows Hans Olaf Gerdrum 1947 as being on the farm. No further information is shown as to his children or if someone is still on the farm. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 02:04:27
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You are probably running into privacy controls for very recent history and living individuals.
If someone in that family is interested in learning whether others are also researching the same family history they might encounter your postings online and contact you. Or you could look for a historical/genealogical society in that part of Norway and see if they have members who are interested. |
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ngerdrum
Starting member
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 02:17:23
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| I am not sure how to proceed. What site would I go to? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2014 : 02:40:11
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If you think Hans might still be alive (1947 is not that long ago) you could try www.1881.no It's a telephone, address, mapservice site for Norway.
Which Gjerdrum farm are you seeking ? If you know the fylke and parish, it's possible there is a bygdebøk covering the history of the farm and farm owners. There are several bygdebøker collections in U.S. which you might consult for more current history of the farm.
There was also a series of books called Norske Gardsbruk published in the 1940s and then again in the 1990s which contain information about farms and the farm ownership. Books are arranged geographically by fylke and parish. Here is a link to--sorry in Norwegian language-- discussion about these books:
https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.php/Norske_Gardsbruk |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2014 : 13:48:21
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There is more than one Norwegian farm called Gjerdrum -- and even those farms have sections which are used as "sub-farms" owned and/or rented by a pretty long list of persons.
What is your purpose in looking for living persons somehow related to you that are still living on or owning farm land connected to earlier "Gjerdrum" farms? I'm always curious why people actively seek distant living relatives. I encounter people distantly related to myself entirely by accident because we are both researching the history of one or more common ancestors, but it was never my goal to seek them out. |
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ngerdrum
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 21:05:44
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Due to this forum, we met a Chicago connection this summer when she and her daughter came to visit. We are on a Gerdrum farm here in Montana that Magnus homesteaded. His daughter is still living in Minnesota at 95. She has a pretty good memory and has provided us with a family tree but ends with Hans Olav Gjerdrum. Years ago she visited Norway but English was a problem. She was in communication with Sissel for years but due to her age has stopped. We have a daughter very much interested in the Norwegian heritage.
Also, no one knows what became of Karl Gerdrum ( Magnus's brother )after he homesteaded here..if he had a family or what . The Gjerdrum farm is Sondre Gjerdrum |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 22:48:28
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Perhaps this is Karl (Carl)
U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1963
Name: Carl Gerdrum
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1889
Death Date: 19 Oct 1950
Cemetery: Greenwood Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Grass Valley, California |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 22:51:18
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The birth date matches that of the Carl Gedrum on the headstone and the state is Montana where he homesteaded.
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Carl Gerdrum
County: Mineral
State: Montana
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1889
Race: Caucasian (White) |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/09/2014 23:07:23 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 22:55:17
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By the time he registers for the WWII draft he is living in California.
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Carl Gerdrum
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1889
Birth Place: Oslo, Norway
Residence: Nevada, California, USA
Race: White |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/09/2014 : 23:06:30
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I noticed on his WWI draft card that he listed his occupation as miner. Here is a likely candidate from the 1940 Census in spite of the spelling of the last name. He is still single here so unlikely that he married.
1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Carl Cerdrun
Respondent: Yes
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Forest, Sierra, California
Map of Home in 1940:
Street: Alleghany
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Nevada City, Nevada, California
Residence in 1935: Nevada City, Nevada, California
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 5B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 142
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 50
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Carl Cerdrun
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ngerdrum
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Posted - 02/09/2014 : 01:27:34
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Thank you. That is interesting. No one ever knew why he did not return to Montana after the war . I am sure that is Karl. Loise, Magnus and Karl were the 3 children of Hans Hansen Gjerdrum and Anne Marie Nils to come to America. Louise made at least one visit back to Norway..non of the boys ever did. I have seen the thread on Louise and Hans. That was how the connection was made with Louise's great granddaughter. I am not sure the parish that sondre Gjerdrum is located.
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Hopkins
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ngerdrum
Starting member
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Posted - 02/09/2014 : 03:23:32
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| Thank you very much. We do have the family tree that Magnus brought with him. We have it current until Hans Olav Gjerdrum 1947. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7765 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2014 : 04:21:01
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University of North Dakota Special Collections Arne Brekke Bygdebøker collections for Gjerdrum parish in Akershus listing:
Author Title Year Call Number Type Notes
Kirkeby, B. Gjerdrum bygdebok, v. 1 1961 DL596.G52 K57 Farms
Kirkeby, B. Gjerdrum bygdebok, v. 2 1963 DL596.G52 K57 Farms
Kirkeby, B. Gjerdrum bygdebok, v. 3 1974 DL596.G52 K57 General
So there may be an additional 15 years or so of records on Gjerdrum farm in one of the Farm volumes. You could contact them and ask for copy to help you. |
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ngerdrum
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Posted - 03/09/2014 : 05:07:46
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| Thank you so much |
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