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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 25/11/2014 : 22:23:42
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Not sure there is any new information here but for completness here is the record of Olaf and Lars leaving England on the way to New York.
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Olaf Baasnes
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1901
Departure Date: 14 Apr 1923
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Berengaria
Search Ship Database:
Search for the Berengaria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 144301
Master: Wm D Irwine |
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jensen90
Senior member
244 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2014 : 22:30:16
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| Thank you,that is great, they must have taken the "Stavangerfjord" from Stavanger then to Southhampton. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2014 : 22:48:51
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On page one, Jackie posted the following.
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Perhaps Olav went by Hansen, too? Here is a 1930 census listing b. abt 1901, migrated 1923, married to Tordis Abrahamson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4J4-CV3
So far haven't found the Hansens in the 1940 census.
I think that this is that family in the 1940 US Census. Ollie is Olof, Jordis is just Tordis slightly changed and Carl has become Carla and now a girl.
1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Ollie Hansen
Respondent: Yes
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Kings, New York
Map of Home in 1940:
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Street: 40th Street
House Number: 639
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Kings, New York
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Having first papers
Sheet Number: 19A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 471
Occupation: Supt
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 42
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 60
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 900
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors:
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Household Members:
Name Age
Ollie Hansen 39
Jordis Hansen 33
Carla Hansen 12
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Edited by - AntonH on 25/11/2014 22:50:13 |
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jensen90
Senior member
244 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2014 : 22:52:51
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| Very interesting find,thank you for that |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2014 : 22:59:22
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Following up on Jackies posting of the arrival of Tordis, I looked at the original manifest on Ancestry.com. Tordis lists her last permanent address as Lista, Norway. And a contact as her mother Nilsine Abrahamsen, Tjorve, Lista per Farsund.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Tordis Abrahamsen Tjörve
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1925
Birth Date: abt 1907
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: lista
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Oslo, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
Search Ship Database:
Search for the Stavangerfjord in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database |
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jensen90
Senior member
244 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2014 : 23:24:35
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| Very good thanks so much:) |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 25/11/2014 : 23:42:51
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In the Naturalization Petition posted for Torgils, he lived at 651, 56th Street. Oskar Hansen in that same petition lived at 450 61st Street. And Olaf Hansen in the 1940 US Census lived at 639 40th Street and in the 1930 US Census lived at 664 44th Street. All in Brooklyn of course. And in the 1925 New York State Census Olaf Bassnas lived at 425 53rd Street.
On the original form for the Naturalization Petition Oskar signed his name as Oskar Hansen. It maybe a bit of a stretch to turn Olof Hansen into Oscar Hansen, but the locations in Brooklyn are quite close. |
Edited by - AntonH on 26/11/2014 02:13:55 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 26/11/2014 : 01:38:36
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The locations might have been close, but I think a little more digging has eliminated Olof Hansen as a candidate. I found a Family Tree on Ancestry.com with
Tordis Abrahamsen (Tjorve)
Birth 15 January 1907 in Tjvore, Lista per Farsund Aust-Agder, Norway
Death 15 Apr 1999 in Farsund, Vest-Agder Norway
She married
Olav (Ole) Teodor Hansen (Tonnessen)
Birth 21 Nov 1900 in Lyngdal Norway
Death 26 Jun 1991 in Brooklyn, Kings New York
Lyngdal is in Vest-Agder County as is Lista and Farsund.
The Family Tree is well documented including the birth record for Olav.
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Ole Teodor Hansen
Name: Ole Teodor Hansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1900
Baptism Date: 1900
Baptism Place: Lyngdal, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father's Age: 1870
Mother's Age: 1868
Father: Tønnes Hansen
Mother: Anne Katrine Olsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1283359
Reference ID: BK5 P23 CN34
See also number 34
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1021&idx_id=1021&uid=ny&idx_side=-39 |
Edited by - AntonH on 26/11/2014 01:43:28 |
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jensen90
Senior member
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Posted - 26/11/2014 : 10:54:51
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| Thank you,excellent piece of detective work lyndal. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 26/11/2014 : 18:17:57
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Following up on post of JaneC
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They had a daughter Lila 1944-2000 (m. Alfred Fleurent)
According to a Family Tree on Ancestry.com Alfred J Fleurent died in 1988. The tree does list five children for Alfred Fleurent and Liliha M Thompson. The tree belongs to Monica Fleurent.
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Alfred J. Fleurent
SSN: 031-18-5511
Last Residence:
02719 Fairhaven, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA
BORN: 25 Feb 1927
Died: 12 Mar 1988
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)
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JamesH
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 03/12/2014 : 21:47:07
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My grandparents would receive the magazine "Jul på Karmøy" from relatives in Norway. In the 1968 issue was a school photo from the early 1900's from Stokkastand with each child's name listed including Olaf Båsnes and Olga Båsnes Grindhaug. Unfortunately the photo for Olga is very much smudged - no doubt from my grandparents pointing to her. My grandmother was a first cousin to Olaf and Olga.
Will try to send you an email message as would like to contact Olaf's descendants in Karmøy to share this and a few other photos and more information.
Regarding the mystery about what happened to Olaf Båsnes. I doubt he changed his name to Oscar Hansen and is listed as a witness to the 1928 naturalization petition for Lars Thompson. In the 1920 census in Brooklyn there is a 40 year old Oscar Hansen living with his brother-in-law Thorvald Thompson. I suspect if you check the Karmøy slektsforum website (not sure which farm in Akra?), you'll find that Lars Thompson and Thorvald Thompson are brothers. Plus, there is no evidence that Olaf Båsnes had become a US citizen by 1928, so not sure if he would be able to act as witness for a naturalization petition.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJ5V-BWB
As mentioned in previous posts, after Olga Båsnes died, Lars Thompson married Martha Johnson. I checked the Karmøy slektsforum website, and Martha and Olga were first cousins. Martha's mother was Gundelene Hansdatter, who was the sister to Olga's father Hans Andreas Hansen. Martha was the oldest of nine children, and according to the slektsforum website the entire family immigrated to America in 1928. Perhaps their descendants might have information on what happened to Olaf Båsnes.
Besides his uncle Tobias (Tom) Johnson already mentioned in the above posts, Olaf had another uncle Elias Olai Hansen (half-brother to Tobias) in Brooklyn. Also, a ship captain. With so many relatives in Brooklyn, I think it would be difficult for Olaf to go missing there.
I found a brief reference to Olaf in a letter between my family members "Olaf who drowned in New York" but no other details. Being a fisherman was (and is) a very dangerous occupation. Unfortunately, during this period it was not uncommon for fisherman to be swept from the decks or their boats to sink.
The Norwegian colony in Brooklyn had a newspaper "Nordisk Tidende" which might have an article on Olaf if indeed he did drown in New York. Unfortunately, the Nordisk Tidende newspaper has not been digitized. The good news is that it is only a weekly newspaper, so if his descendants had some clue what year he went missing it would be possible to check.
Will send you an email now - hopefully I now have enough posts on this forum to send you one.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2014 : 22:46:05
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Further information was sent to me by owner of one the Famly Trees on Ancestry.com containing Olaf.
Thank you for bringing the discussion to my attention. First of, the information in the tree was given to me by my mother in law, who is the niece of Olaf Johan, who again was given the data from a relative. She told me that there were some errors in the information and wanted us to correct it together. This is however too late now, but my wife remembers some of the family story.
Tora Mathilde, his wife, stayed behind in Norway with their two daughters, Aslaug,4 Jul 1920 and Agda, 8 Mar 1922. Tora never remarried, both Aslaug and Agda married and had children of their own. They are both still living in Haugesund. According to the family, Olaf Johan died in USA a few years after he came over in 1923, apparently a rather "sudden death". I will investigate further if there are some more known information about his whereabouts in US. Please feel free to contact me again for additional questions.
A recent update from akroken
Thank you, please note that Aslaug passed away in 2005, an Agda in 2015. |
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jensen90
Senior member
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Posted - 10/12/2014 : 22:47:10
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| This is fantastic,its been a while since i logged in so this was a great surprise,thank you so much for reaching out and for helping me unsokve this mystery. |
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jensen90
Senior member
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Posted - 10/12/2014 : 22:51:17
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| My e-mail is jensinge80@hotmail.no and i know the grandson of Olaf and Tora,his name is Årstein Sjøen,he is the one who is trying to find the faith of his grandfather Olaf, |
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Arstsjoen
New on board
Norway
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Posted - 11/12/2014 : 23:54:20
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Hello,lyndal40.
I am the person who like to know about my grandfather Olav Båsnes,my name is Årstein Sjøen. My mother Aslaug died in 2005. Looking forward to any News.
If possible i like to know about the information that should be corrected and Your wife know some about.
My e mail is; friskus@haugnett.no |
Årstein Sjøen |
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Olav Hansen Båsnes 1898-
