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tkoller
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Posted - 14/01/2015 :  12:55:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ferdinand A Datz
Trygdeordningens dødsfallsregistre i USA (SSDI)
GRATIS
Født: 17. apr 1906
Død: 10. jan 1989
Siste bosted: Chicago, Illinois 60618, USA
Ferdinand Datz

Ferdinand Datz
1930 United States Føderale folketelling
Født: Ca 1908 - Sted
Bosted: 1930 - Sted
Foreldre: Navn til begge foreldre


Other information in the record of Ferdinand A Datz
from Illinois, Cook County Deaths
Name: Ferdinand A Datz
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 10 Jan 1989
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Address: 4018 N Central Park
Gender: Male
Age: 82
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Occupation: Driver
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1906
Birth Year (Estimated): 1907
Birthplace: , , Illinois
Funeral Home: Hollerbach
Cemetery: Montrose
Father's Name: Edward Datz
Mother's Name: Sophie Johnson
Spouse's Name: Eva Hedwig Langmesser
Entry Number: 600583
Søsken: Edward Datz, Jr og navnet til en eller flere søsken

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Edited by - tkoller on 14/01/2015 13:34:16
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jkmarler
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USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2015 :  13:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a marriage record transcription in which a Jenny C Johnson b. 1858 marries:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7DW-3TT

Name: Carl C Jensen
Age: 41
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Birth Date: 1858
Spouse's Name: Jenny C. Johnson
Spouse's Age: 41
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Spouse's Birth Date: 1858
License Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Aug 1899
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Edited by - jkmarler on 14/01/2015 13:40:52
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jkmarler
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USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2015 :  14:13:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some records about Emil & Julia Berg, the cousins with whom Alice Johnson lived in 1920:

Marriage of Emil Berg and Julia Olson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7DQ-1MN

Death record Emil:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQGD-P35

Julia's memorial at findagrave:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=106860787

Julia's death record:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9N-GWVM

Edited by - jkmarler on 14/01/2015 21:17:51
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tkoller
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Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2015 :  17:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will bee home from the Reumatic Hospital Friday Then I will read trough all the topics to get a overlook. Hope to do that just over the weekend. Maybe it's something I've overlooked.

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JaneC
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Posted - 14/01/2015 :  21:06:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to hear you will be home again Friday. ;-)

Here's a candidate for Sophie Johnsen Datz - not a perfect fit:

1900 US Census
Chicago Ward 14, Cook, Illinois
Erick Johnson 65 b Jul 1834 Norway, to USA 1872
Josaphine Johnson 49 b Aug 1850, Norway
Charlie Johnson 21 b Oct 1871 Norway
Annie Johnson 18 b July 1881 Illinois
Sophie Johnson 15 b Feb 1885 Illinois
Ammy Johnson 6 b Nov 1893 Illinois


Probably this is the family in 1880:

1880
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Erik Johnsen 45 b abt 1835 Norway
Josephine Johnsen 29 b abt 1851 Norway
Janne Johnsen 10 b Norway
Charles Johnsen 8 b Norway
Johanna Johnsen 1 b Illinois
Bernhard Andersen nephew

BIRTH: Karl Eriksen, born 28 October 1871 in Asker, Akershus, Norway, Parents: Erik Johnsen and Josephine Simensen
Karl's birth

DEATH: Charles Johnson born 28 October 1871 in Norway, died 19 April 1944 in Chicago. Parents Erick Johnson and Josephine Simonson.
Charles Death

Perhaps this is the same Erick, died in 1903

Edited by - JaneC on 15/01/2015 00:01:52
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 14/01/2015 :  21:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not that it couldn't be, but Amy that lived with the family in 1920 or 1930 was born about 1881--not 1893.
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JaneC
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USA
3020 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2015 :  22:01:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I realize.

Haven't found Carl C Jensen and Jenny C Johnson as a married couple in 1900.

HOGDON family tree on Ancestry for Sophie Datz (1885- ?) and Eddie Datz (1880-1959).
Quite a bit of info on the Datz side; none on the Johnson side.

1900 US Census says Peter O Johnson born March 1851 Norway. Marriage to Caroline Sophie Larsen says his father is Johan Christiansen. So here's a candidate for birth of Peter Oluf Johansen 15 Mar 1851 with parents Johan Christiansen and Anne Marie Petersdatter.
Spydeberg, Ostfold

May not be useful / relevant in tracking in Jennie...taking long shots today.

Edited by - JaneC on 14/01/2015 22:21:00
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 15/01/2015 :  00:21:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since Sophie was so young in Norway, perhaps she was baptized there in Drammen?

An extreme long shot from the ELCA database Sophie Johnson b. 30 Apr 1885 was confirmed 29 Apr 1900 in a Chicago church not identified by name just as an "American Lutheran" church. Parents are not named in the record, information is only as given here.

For the younger Amy Johnson a possible in ELCA database: Amy Josephine Johnson, no age given confirmed 26 May 1904, living at 581 Evergreen Avenue. Again no church named and location is given as Cook or Dupage, Illinois.
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tkoller
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Norway
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Posted - 15/01/2015 :  13:11:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't been able to find her baptized in Drammen at her home chuch. If she was baptized in Oslo it will take some time.Have to find were her father in law lived if she stayed therefor a while.

Found Family Search:

Jennie Johnson
mentioned in the record of May Florence Johnson
Name: Jennie Johnson
Birthplace: Nor
Gender: Female
Husband: Unknown Johnson
Daughter: May Florence Johnson
Other information in the record of May Florence Johnson
from Illinois, Cook County Birth Registers
Name: May Florence Johnson
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1888
Birthplace: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Race (Original): W
Race: White
Father's Name: Unknown Johnson
Mother's Name: Jennie Johnson
Mother's Birthplace: Nor

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Edited by - tkoller on 15/01/2015 22:20:00
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  18:53:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jane's most recent names have been struckthrough on page 6.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 23/01/2015 :  12:54:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jane's most recent names have been struck through on the list.
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JaneC
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USA
3020 Posts

Posted - 23/01/2015 :  17:42:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jackie. Fred Theorell got missed - his Jennie is Swedish.
I have been deleting my lists of names as you strikethrough - no point in redundancy.
Many hands make light work - if anyone additional has time to check out a handful of names on Jackie's list (page 6), that would be great. We both expressed earlier this process of eliminations would be a painful task, most especially because it is mind- numbingly boring! But not difficult...

Edited by - JaneC on 23/01/2015 17:46:03
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 23/01/2015 :  19:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fred Theorell was on the list twice but only struck through once.
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tkoller
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Norway
89 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2015 :  18:50:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQXY-Y36 ?

Jennie Johnson
mentioned in the record of John Norman Inayle
Name: Jennie Johnson
Birthplace: Norway
Gender: Female
Husband: William Inayle
Son: John Norman Inayle
Other information in the record of John Norman Inayle
from Michigan, Births
Name: John Norman Inayle
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1899
Birthplace: Ishpeming, Marquette, Michigan
Gender: Male
Father's Name: William Inayle
Father's Birthplace: Michigan
Mother's Name: Jennie Johnson
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Reference ID: item 1 p 271 rn 1015 , GS Film number: 2322870 , Digital Folder Number: 4207547 , Image Number: 131

Possible ?

TOK

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JaneC
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Posted - 04/04/2015 :  21:46:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We can look into it (I cannot help today or next few days, though). It's possible Jenny later lived in a place like Ishpeming, but the location makes it a little unlikely. This would be somewhat like moving from Bergen to a small village in the far north of Norway. In this era the usual trend was to move away from farms and small villages and move into big cities, rather than the other way around. (Of course some individuals don't follow the usual trend!) Also, if she remarried and had a child, wouldn't she write home?

Edited by - JaneC on 04/04/2015 21:54:51
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