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pjb08005
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Posted - 22/06/2015 :  22:33:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi. My g-g grandfather was Joseph Lawson (b. 1862 in Norway). He immigrated to the United States in 1885 where he resided in Norwalk, CT. He died on December 5, 1930 in East Norwalk, CT. Does anyone know how I can find out where in Norway he came from? According to the census both of his parents were also from Norway.

Something I found interesting about my research into the census records regarding a Joseph Lawson from Norway was that there was another Joseph Lawson from Norway also living in Norwalk around the same time. The other Joseph Lawson gave a birth date of 1858 and immigrated just 5 years prior in 1880 to the U.S. This Joseph Lawson said that his father was Scottish and his mother was Norwegian.

However, I am primarily interested in finding out information about the Joseph Lawson (b. 1862, d. 1930) from Norway, whose both parents were from Norway and whom died in Norwalk, CT.

jwiborg
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Posted - 22/06/2015 :  23:16:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1900 says Joseph was born March 1861, and immigrated in 1884. Wife Mary, and children James (11), John M (9) and Mary J (7).

Have you found their marriage certificate? Or birth certificate of their children?
If you have seen other spellings of his name, that would be of interest. Because for sure,his name was not Joseph Lawson in Norway. But probably something similar. And early American records could show the Norwegian spelling...
Did some of his closest relatives live in the US? Brother, sister, parents?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  01:26:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Worth a try;
Joesef/Joseph Larsen.

Kåre
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  01:59:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching NHDC Norwegian Census 1865 for Josef orJoesef Larsen born 1860 to 1863 turns up none.

Searching Joseph Larsen born 1860 to 1863 turns up only one

NHDC 1865

From

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98rland

Probably this fellow

Joseph Olaus Larsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Joseph Olaus Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 sep 1861
Baptism Date: 17 nov 1861
Baptism Place: Ørland, Sør-Tröndelag, Norway
Father: Lars Johnsen
Mother: Elisabeth Olsdatter
FHL Film Number: 307041
Reference ID: vol 7

See also number 105 in the link

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2390&idx_id=2390&uid=ny&idx_side=-39

Peter, you should understand that this is a long shot in the dark and what you need is some more info related to your ancestor that establishes a firm birth date ie day, month, year and/or a place where your ancestor emmigrated from in Norway.


Edited by - AntonH on 23/06/2015 02:40:21
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  03:03:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The wife of Joseph Lawson was named Mary Ann McSally or McSalley born abt 1862 in Northern Ireland. On the census page mentioned by Jan Peter are her two brothers Michael and Patrick Mcsally and their families.

Father Michael McSalley also emigrated to and passed away in Connecticut

Marriage of Joseph and Mary Ann was

Marriage
6 Feb 1887 • Norwalk, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States

Edited by - AntonH on 23/06/2015 03:20:17
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  04:28:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A long shot from the :Emigrants database:
Josef Lars. Stuevold Tydalen 23 Boston Emigranter over Trondheim 1867-1930


Sorry not a good candidate a further looks shows voyage in 1901 so age puts him way out of contention.

Edited by - jkmarler on 23/06/2015 04:32:33
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Hopkins
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  11:34:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did Joseph Lawson become a naturalized American citizen? If he did there is a chance that his naturalization application and/or final papers may record where in Norway he was from - perhaps even original name spelling.

Look for a church congregation where he attended after he emigrated. Notes about members of the congregation, especially new members, kept by the minister can often list where they had been originally baptised and/or confirmed.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  16:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joseph Lawson
in the U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Joseph Lawson
Birth Place: Sweden; Norway
Court District: Connecticut
Date of Action: 20 Oct 1896

No other info on the index card in Ancestry.com data base

Edited by - AntonH on 23/06/2015 16:28:04
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kspahr
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Posted - 03/06/2016 :  15:50:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ello-
My Great Grandfather was Joseph Lawson. I came across your post on Norway Heritage when I was trying to find out more about him.

My mother was his grand daughter and her maiden name was Lawson. We all grew up in Norwalk, CT.

Unfortunately, all I know about his ancestry is he immigrated around 1880-1885 and both his parents were from Norway.

Have you learned anything else about Norway?
Thanks !
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/06/2016 :  23:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lawson, in and of itself is not a Norwegian name. The most common name which became Lawson in North America was Larson. So here are all Joseph Larson b 1860-1865 in the 1865 Norwegian census:
Josef S. Larsen 1860* Dybvaag hendes Søn ug Dybvaag: Askerøen (Vestre) m Folketelling 1865 for 0915P Dypvåg prestegjeld

Joseph Larsen 1861* Ørlands Prgj. deres Søn ug Ørland: Ryggen m Folketelling 1865 for 1621P Ørland prestegjeld

Iver Josep Larsen 1865* Christiania Søn ug* Christiania: Tøiengade m Folketelling 1865 for 0301 Kristiania kjøpstad

Have you got Joseph's exact date of birth? Have you got his death certificate or his obituary? These last two might have information about Joseph which would allow further study.


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kspahr
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Posted - 09/06/2016 :  17:50:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jkmarler- Thank you so much for replying to my post. I really appreciate it.

My mother was a Lawson and I am very close to the whole family. We all lived in Norwalk, Ct. I've done a lot of research on ancestry but can not get any more information on my great-grandfather, Joseph Lawson.

At one point I wondered if they were Scottish and just living in Norway but I now do not think so because on the 1930 census it states he speaks Norwegian.

I will try to follow up on the Joseph Larsen 1861 you listed.
What does this say? "Ørlands Prgj. deres Søn ug Ørland: Ryggen m Folketelling 1865 for 1621P Ørland prestegjeld" ?

What I know:
Joesph Lawson (Can not find a middle name)
Birthdate March 1861 Norway
Parents both born in Norway
Immigration Year 1884 (Another census shows 1885)
Naturalization Record Oct 20, 1896 Sweden & Norway
Married Mary Ann McSally- (many children including my grandfather)
Newspaper Obituary Died Dec 5, 1930 (No other info)
Gravestone - 1856-1930 in St John's Cemetery, Norwalk Ct (No other info)

Again, Thank you for your help.
-Kathryn
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/06/2016 :  18:11:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seeing that he also carries a possible birthyear of 1856 here are the male jos* lars* b 1850s in the 1865 Norwegian census:

Josef Larsen 1855* Suldals Prgj. hans Søn ug Suledal: Foss m Folketelling 1865 for 1134P Suldal prestegjeld \

#53 Josef Larsen b 13 Sept 1855
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050922040523.jpg

Joseph Larsen 1851* Voss Prgj. deres Søn ug Voss: Vike m Folketelling 1865 for 1235P Voss prestegjeld

This Joseph Larsen came to US in 1876:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000658565

Josef Larsen 1853* Balsfjord Deres søn ug Balsfjorden: Skudvigvand m Folketelling 1865 for 1933P Balsfjord prestegjeld

Josep Larssen 1859* Kinserviks Prgj. deres Søn ug Kinservik: Røen ytre m Folketelling 1865 for 1230P Kinsarvik prestegjeld
#76 Josef Larsen b 20 May 1859
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070223630003.jpg

The phrase is from the index of the 1865 Norwegian census. I'll put in a link in a minute.

It says the parish / large parish is Ørland, that he is the son of the couple also named in the actual schedule transcription, that he was born in Ørland, that he is ug that is unmarried, the family is living on a farm named Ryggen.

Here is the link to the main search page at the Norwegian Digital archives.

http://www.arkivverket.no/eng/Digitalarkivet

Here is a link to the family in Ørland:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038313003877

Joseph Olaus Larsen #105 he's born in Sept 1861, not March:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050607011201

Edited by - jkmarler on 10/06/2016 13:23:10
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/06/2016 :  16:44:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An outlayer longshot Johan Josef Larschot b 1865 in Bergen, Norway:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052461000693
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pjb08005
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Posted - 07/01/2017 :  16:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for all this information. I know just as much as Ms. Spahr does. kspahr is my 2nd cousin, once removed. I had lost my password and did not foresee so many posts to this forum. I have specific questions about some McSally descendants for Ms. Spahr.
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