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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 25/03/2018 : 01:35:51
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The only Sandersen born about 1874 in Telemark is this Adolf
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We found him in the 1875 Census and he is with family in 1885.
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And his confirmation.
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The family seems to disappear after that as I have not found them in either the 1900 or 1910 census.
In the marriage for the parents, Ole Sandersen and Anne Marie Olsdatter one of the witnesses is a Søren Sandersen.
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It is likely the this Søren is the brother of Ole and also the father of Sander Ingeval Sørensen. Both are children of Sander Olsen and Ingeborg Larsdatter. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/03/2018 : 03:56:34
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One of the children of Søren Sandersne that we seem to have missed is
Name: Ludvig Sandersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 aug 1874
Baptism Date: 20 sep 1874
Baptism Place: Brevik, Telemark, Norway
Father: Søren Sandersen
Mother: Kirsten Marte Jakobsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282544
Reference ID: Pg 52 #50
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No Ludvig with the family in 1885
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Not finding him in the 1885 Census led me to expect to find his death record.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/03/2018 : 18:17:06
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Trying to find a person with a name that could morph into Herman Sandersen born about 1874 in or near Porsgurnn is not turning up many candidates. However there is this one. Named Hans Larss. Sand born 1874 in Eidanger (which was at one time part of Porsgrunn). He is also a seaman which is positive.
1900 Census
Born Nov 24, 1873, Named Hans Andreas, Parents are Henrik Larsson and Gunhild Marie Halvorsdtter Sandøen
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TracEdw
New on board
South Africa
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Posted - 06/03/2020 : 09:00:59
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Martha Johanna Elizabeth Sanderson is my great grandmother, married to Colin Mackenzie.
I have a copy of their marriage certificate if you would like it.
We heard a simular story about the jumping ship so I think we're talking about the same people. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2020 : 15:13:02
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| Martha Johanna Sandersen b 1907 was a daughter of target Herman Sandersen see page 1 this topic. |
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AngelaBoger
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2020 : 15:21:30
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quote:
Originally posted by TracEdw
Martha Johanna Elizabeth Sanderson is my great grandmother, married to Colin Mackenzie.
I have a copy of their marriage certificate if you would like it.
We heard a simular story about the jumping ship so I think we're talking about the same people.
Yes, that is the same Herman Sandersen (Father of Martha). I have her baptism and marriage certificate. I would be happy to chat with you. #128515; |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2020 : 16:00:24
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If all goes well, the following is a list of Herman of any last name born 1873-1875 in the 1891 Norwegian census residing in Telemark (which includes Porsgrun):
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&jt%5B%5D=3&c%5B%5D=08&firstname=herman&lastname=&birth_year_from=1873&birth_year_to=1875&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel
Herman Hoell
At least one on this list is mentioned in the 1900 census as being a sailor on a ship called Dovre in British waters:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01100021005602
And he is counted with his family in 1900 even though he is temporarily away in England:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037159000115
#33 Herman Hoell b 12 Nov 1875
SAKO, Skien kirkebøker, G/Ga/L0005: Parish register (copy) no. 5, 1868-1880, p. 72
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061207040394
This is a link to a brother of Herman Hoell named Georg Schildknecht Hoell who died in 1957. Maybe Herman will be mentioned as a survivor in an American obit?
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112684682
Mention of Herman Hoell's sister Marie who married Christian Stang:
https://www.nb.no/items/1ce23d118790cd03c604563d08e2996c?page=339&searchText=%22paulus%20hoell%22
Newspaper death notice of Herman Hoell's father Paulus Hoell in Skien on 1 Dec 1907. Survivors not specifically named:
https://www.nb.no/items/90ac0424b20da4a2515698e4cd4aba2a?page=1&searchText=%22paulus%20hoell%22
#1284 Herman Hoell musterings on ships, stint on Dovre ended not well, Rømt; last date is 1902 listed as in hospitalet:
SAKO, Skien innrulleringskontor, F/Fb/L0006: Hovedrulle, 1892-1913, p. 22
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ru20090429670314
Information about a Dovre ( there are several) this one's home port is Porsgrunn:
https://www.sjohistorie.no/en/skip/7449/
Herman Hoell's death in NYC 1918:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W6M-MSQ
Herman Zacharias Hansen in 1900 census also on the Ruby in British waters:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01100021005530
#29 Herman Zacharis b 8 Nov 1875
SAKO, Skien kirkebøker, G/Ga/L0005: Parish register (copy) no. 5, 1868-1880, p. 72
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061207040394
Information about Ruby:
https://www.sjohistorie.no/en/skip/24483/
This might be Herman Zacharias Hansen since he appears to be on the Ruby in 1900 #1268 born 15 Oct 1875 Skien
SAKO, Skien innrulleringskontor, F/Fb/L0006: Hovedrulle, 1892-1913, s. 14
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ru20090429670306
Herman Zacharias Hansen's marriage announced at Skien in 1904 to Bertine Marie Tobiasen:
https://www.nb.no/items/081a9b00d6c0b5bad42d39bc598f6dda?page=1&searchText=%22herman%20zacharias%20hansen%22
I've been through the indexes of sailors in Skien and Porsgrunn and found no Herman Sandersen. There were 15 Hermans of any and every last name from Skien and 22 in Porsgrunn. Most of the ones found in the actual records from Porsgrunn were born in Solum.
Did you ever get Herman's death certificate?
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