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davidcarlsen
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/04/2016 : 02:07:24
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Why don't you post the URL with the page heading so we can look at all the pages you mentioned? The top of the right hand page is dated 1714 so likely 1715-1716 are further on but we can't get there because of the way this is posted. Copy and paste the whole description at the top of the page. Anyway the right had page has a guide for you any line labelled Daab on the left has a baptism in it. |
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davidcarlsen
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/04/2016 : 16:37:45
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Searching the Ancestry.com data base "Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927" for either Iver or Pernille for Hof, Vestfold for years 1710 to 1714 does not turn up any candidates for Pernille.
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eibache
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Posted - 13/04/2016 : 19:54:37
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link to 1716.
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 04/12/2017 : 20:27:14
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Thank you for your previous answers. I am not able to read the Gothic style writing and there is little to no underlining as is often found so I'm not sure of the syntax and where a child's name might be. Additionally, despite Ancestry's lack of any connection, I'm not sure that rules out a Pernille (sic) Iversd to be found in this time period in these registers. The difficulty for most to index these records could mean a gap in available information unless it's being done locally in Norway. Here is a 1738 child: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660054 Marthe 2nd baptism on right I know the mother here is Petronelle but I am convinced this is a typo by the recorder after reading through this register as much as I am able. Here is a 1745 child : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660075 Ide, first baptism on right page. Here is a 1757 child : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660121 Knud first baptism on right page As I am unable to read this writing, what I am asking is if someone who can read it will read through the entirety of a few pages beginning here: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660009 Given a child in 1738 and one in 1757, it seems likely that Pernille was in the age 20 to 40 "child bearing" years That would put her about 1716-1717 birth. It's a span of about 8 or 9 pages is all to cover a possible birth period from 1710 to 1720. I would appreciate if someone could exhaust that possibility.
This post also is related to the post for Anders Hansen, the father in these birth records. He could likely be in this same search range for Pernille, if you could keep an eye out for him it would also be a great help although lyndal looks to have made a review for Anders at one time and it did not yield anything. |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 05/02/2018 : 03:20:03
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I haven't received a reply to this request as outlined above. I thought maybe a translation of a single record would help me understand the structure of these entries and I could give it a go even though I don't read the Gothic writing. Would someone give me a complete translation of this baptism record. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070402660009. The last baptism record on the right page. Please identify the beginning word of the record and a complete translation which I hope will help me understand the structure and make it possible to search for Pernille. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/02/2018 : 05:12:16
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Your link doesn't work. |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 12/11/2018 : 03:41:49
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not sure why that one didn't work as it was a copy of the one in the previous post but here is a link again: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070402660009 This is the text of the original request : "I haven't received a reply to this request as outlined above. I thought maybe a translation of a single record would help me understand the structure of these entries and I could give it a go even though I don't read the Gothic writing. Would someone give me a complete translation of this baptism record. The last baptism record on the right page. Please identify the beginning word of the record and a complete translation which I hope will help me understand the structure and make it possible to search for Pernille." Thanks |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/11/2018 : 09:31:02
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SAKO, Hof kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. I 1, 1704-1745, s. 8 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070402660009
These entries are chronological. So the first entry on the right page is marked "Begrav" in the left margin, a burial on 13 Jan [1714] for a 76 year old whose name I'm not certain I can read. The line ends up with an eccliastical date/description.
The next entry is marked "Daab" so is a baptism on 15 Jan [1714] for _____ ______ ____ a datter named Ann.
Other kinds of entries seen are "introdvede" reintroduction of a woman who has given birth, "trolovelse" betrothal / engagement; "døbte" baptism; "publ. absol." public absolution for other kinds of infractions; "copulate" marriage.
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ToreL
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Posted - 12/11/2018 : 18:56:30
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Just in case you haven't seen the Hof bygdebok; here is a clip from the page about the husmanssplass Brantestua under the farm Øvre Berg:
https://photoland.io/i/2jxVmw
The priest didn't make any mistake writing Petronelle; this was just the more formal version of the colloquial Pernille. I also had a look at the gothic writing by the way, but I'm no good at that either. Sorry. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/11/2018 : 22:26:17
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If I understand your question correctly, you are interested in the last record on the right hand page. To me it looks like "18th May baptism child for Christoffer Christoffersen fra Verchet Ole" |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2018 17:05:35 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/11/2018 : 22:55:47
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The records for Hof, Vestfold have been transcribed on Digitalarkivet. Searching for a Pernille born 1710 to 1720 only one turns up one . She was baptized in 1720.
The transcription does not give much information but here it is. Father is listed as Daniel !! Hallerud.
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Here is the page where the transcription comes from.
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On the left page look for the Daab on the far left column almost to the 1721 break. Look across from the Daab all the way across this page and you will see the words Dom inter then the word Nativitatum is back across the page to the far left.
I am assuming that that date is Dominica p Nativit or Dec 31 in 1720 |
Edited by - AntonH on 13/11/2018 23:34:08 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2018 : 01:29:14
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Parents for Marthe 1738
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Parents for Marne 1740
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Parents in 1742 for Hans
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Pernille shows up with Anders Hansen as a mother in 1745. child is Ide
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Four lines down right page
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Unfortunately no last name is listed for Pernille. But the names of the witnesses are provided. |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2018 01:33:55 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2018 : 01:59:41
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The only marriage that has an Iver for this time frame is an Iver Amundsen and Annichen Jacobsdatter on Sept 13, 1721.
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Edited by - AntonH on 13/11/2018 02:00:31 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2018 : 02:06:11
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The only girls named Pernille or some variation listed as baptized in Hof Vestfold from 1700 to 1725 are four. The one listed above baptized in 1720, and these three.
1707
Fathers name is Christen !! Herland, left page middle
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1723
Fathers name is Gunner Mich. Brua, right page middle
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Likely died in 1725
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1725
Fathers name is Lars Jacobss.
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Near top of left page
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2018 00:01:22 |
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