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vivi
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  22:30:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

I think I have found the baptizm of Josef.
He was born 14 april 1893 and baptized 22. may 1893 in Kampen parish, Oslo (Christiania) and given the name Josef Marenius. This birthyear fits the emigration age and US census, birthdate 14 april was also mentioned earlier. Father's occupation "Modelsnedker" (carpenter) is correct and so is his birthyear. I have a bit trouble reading his given name, but family name might look like Hanssen (double s was written like this) or Karlsen. Mother's name and age is correct.

No 98:
SAO, Kampen prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. I 5, 1890-1902, s. 82
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060921060134

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 29/06/2016 22:35:44
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  22:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vivi

Hi

I think I have found the baptizm of Josef.
He was born 14 april 1893 and baptized 22. may 1893 in Kampen parish, Oslo (Christiania) and given the name Josef Marenius. This birthyear fits the emigration age and US census, birthdate 14 april was also mentioned earlier. Father's occupation "Modelsnedker" (carpenter) is correct and so is his birthyear. I have a bit trouble reading his given name, but family name might look like Hanssen (double s was written like this) or Karlsen. Mother's name and age is correct.

No 98:
SAO, Kampen prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. I 5, 1890-1902, s. 82
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060921060134




The name is Josef Marinius. The paren'ts birthyears match other records but father's first name is Michael? Karl Hansen is one of the faddernes.
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  23:11:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if this might not be the marriage of above Matea Andersdatter and Mikael Hansen

Matea Andersdatter
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Matea Andersdatter
[Matea Jensen]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1859
Marriage Date: 17 mai 1880 (17 May 1880)
Marriage Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Anders Jensen
Spouse: Mikael Hansen
FHL Film Number: 1282519
Reference ID: bk4 p164 #34

Father of Mikael is listed as
Father: Hans Olsen Vinderunejet

Edited by - AntonH on 29/06/2016 23:30:16
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  23:31:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

I found the same marriage in the church book.
Now I'm a bit confused. Their birthplaces are the same as noted in the 1885 census (Gran is in Hadeland) and Vang is in Hamar.
His age and occupation are correct. We have seen Mathea's birthyear both 1859/1860 and 1863. Might there bee two so similar couples?

SAO, Paulus prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. 4, 1879-1891, s. 164
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060922020343



Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 29/06/2016 23:35:40
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  00:37:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the confirmaton of Mikel Hansen

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070206620162

Born March 22, 1858

See number 6

Baptism of Mikkel See number 75

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070206610483

The same farm name of Vinderunejet runs through these records

Maybe the family without father

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0534&kenr=006&bnr=0155&lnr=000

Father died in 1863 See number 168

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070206620287

The baptism of the son Christian

Christian Hansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Christian Hansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 jun 1854
Baptism Date: 9 jul 1854
Baptism Place: , Gran, Opland, Norway
Father: Hans Mikkelsen
Mother: Randi Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 307300

Edited by - AntonH on 02/07/2016 00:23:56
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  00:52:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

The confirmation gives his father's name as Hans Mikkelsen while at the marriage it is Hans Olsen.
But I believe it is the same person.


Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 30/06/2016 01:12:20
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 30/06/2016 :  01:15:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

This must be the confirmation of Mathea although her name look like Marthe; no 4:
SAH, Vang prestekontor, Hedmark, Parish register (copy) no. 10b, 1854-1896, p. 730-731
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20051003010771

In the 1865 census with parents and siblings:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038032009718

According to "Vangsboka" this Marthe died single in Vang 25. july 1941.

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 30/06/2016 01:45:14
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Hopkins
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  02:09:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Mikkel Hansen of Vindrumseiet (Gran, Oppland), born 1858 left for Christiania in 1879.
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=granutfl&gardpostnr=4158&sokefelt=skjul
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  03:14:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is also an obituary of sorts for Carl Hansen published Tuesday, 10 Mar 1908 in Rockford. He died from dropsy at his home at 1529 15th St. A city directory of Rockford for 1918 gives that address for Regna T. Hansen.

The obit also says Carl had been employed at Greenlee but hadn't worked for a couple of months before dying. Here is a little historical information about Greenlee from their website:

"For more than 140 years, Greenlee has been a provider of quality tools to the woodworking industry and, for over 70 years, to the electrical industry as well...."

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/06/2016 13:54:42
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  11:44:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When the son Harald was baptized in the Paulus parish the parents are written as Mikael Hansen and Matea Andersdatter, see #210.

Einar
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  16:42:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm very strange, could Matea Andersdatter have been married to Mikkel Hansen first and then to Karl Hansen? Or did Mikkel Hansen morph into Karl.

Edited by - AntonH on 30/06/2016 16:55:08
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JaneC
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  17:40:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dropped by to read thread. I wondered too, if Mikkel died before 1885.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  17:50:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Except Joseph's father (b 1890) is recorded as Michael...

Indeed, it is a curious case.
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Nancy Sondy
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  18:10:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been reading through all this information, and I am really confused now! I think it is curious that the marriage information for Josef Hansen and Marie Christensen indicate that Josef's mother is named "Mashel" which I believe is the clerk making a mistake in the writing the name. I figured the Josef's mother was probably "Mikaela" or whatever the equivalent of Michele is in Norwegian. This is the link to the familysearch.org page I'm referring to: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9L-LL6G

Nancy :)
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Nancy Sondy
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  19:29:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since I am doing this research for my best friend and it is her family that we are talking about, I have shared this information with her. She did tell me that according to Josef Hansen, his father died when he was young. I wonder if that is why there is some confusion.

Nancy :)
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