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Ronjulee
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 Posted - 09/02/2017 : 12:11:49
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| I am trying to trace the ancestry of Severin Cecil Johnson/Johanson. B-1869 and D-1934 (in Kalgoorlie Australia) He married a Louisa Vivian in Broken Hill Australia.Hi ancestry is related to danish or Norwegian royals because my mother, Gladys Davey (nee Johnson) received a $40AUD inheritance from the royal family. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/02/2017 : 15:51:17
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You might want to delete the two extra topics you posted on this same person.
Obituary from The Trove via Elephind.com Western Argus (Kalgoorlie) Tuesday, 18 Dec 1934, pg 15 col1 ( Family Notices)
JOHNSON.--At . the Government
Hospital Kalgoorlie, on Decem
ber 11,.1934, Severin Johnson, of
42 Robert street Kalgoorlie (late
of Brown Hill), loving husband
of Louisa, and fond father of Mr.
and Mrs. Miller, Mr. and Mrs. C.
Johnson, Mr. and Mrs. Vickers,
Mr. and Mrs. A. Johnson, Mr. and
Mrs. Terry, Mr.. and .Mrs. Ren-
frey, Mr. and Mrs. Christie, Mr.
and Mrs. Adamson, and Thelma
(deceased). Interred privately,
December 12.
Have you got Severin's death certificate, marriage records and birth records for each of his children?
Cecil is not a common name in Norway, what is the source for that name and the detail that he was born in Norway? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 : 16:56:40
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Looks like his marriage record but using the name Steven
Steven Johnson
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Steven Johnson
Spouse Name: Louisa Vivian
Marriage Date: 1893
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Broken Hill, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Number: 2590
Severin Johnson
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Severin Johnson
Death Place: Western Australia
Registration Year: 1934
Registration Place: East Coolgardie, Western Australia
Registration Number: 290 |
Edited by - AntonH on 09/02/2017 16:57:44 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/02/2017 : 17:15:10
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Well for what its worth a Family Tree on Ancestry has this person. No sources in the tree for any of the many Norwegian family it has listed.
Severin Johnson
1868–1934
BIRTH 30/09/1868 • Egersund, Rogaland, Norway
DEATH 11/12/1934 • East Coolgardie, Western Australi
This is likely the family in the 1865 Census.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1116&kenr=001&bnr=0013&lnr=000
The year is wrong in the Tree as this is likely the person they are referring to.
Severin Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Severin Johansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 sep 1869
Baptism Date: 31 okt 1869 (31 Oct 1869)
Baptism Place: Egersund,Rogaland,Norway
Father: John Eriksen
Mother: Anne Pernille Petersdr
FHL Film Number: 126108
Baptism in Digitalarkivet See number 124
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070503610274
A Geni.com tree for Anne Pernille Pedersdatter, No husband or children listed.
Google Peder Pedersen Midbrød b 1801
Severin and family in 1875 Census.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052242000118 |
Edited by - AntonH on 09/02/2017 22:05:00 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/02/2017 : 17:47:47
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Well this pops up so the Tree may not be as far fetched as I first assumed.
Severin Johnson
in the Victoria, Australia, Index to Naturalisation Certificates, 1851-1928
Name: Severin Johnson
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1869
Certificate Date: 30 Jun 1890
Naturalisation Place: Victoria, Australia
Native Place: Egersund, Norway
The original document lists his Occupation as Seaman and Address as Footscray or Foolscray?
Certificate Number: 5069
Probably this place from Wikipedia
Footscray is a suburb (neighbourhood) 5 km west of Melbourne, Australia.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9216 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2017 : 17:55:06
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I have not found where Severin ever used the name Cecil, but it seems he did name a son Cecil.
Cecil G A Johnson
in the Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Cecil G A Johnson
Birth Date: 1894
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Place: Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Severin Johnson
Mother: Louisa
Registration Number: 7777 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2017 : 17:58:57
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| The baptismal entry for Severin has an X or a + by his name, which might mean that he is expired or something else... |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 : 18:12:25
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Severin b 1869 in Eigersund, Rogalund
Confirmation
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/279/pk00000000724806
Do you have a cover letter that accompanied the money? Consider investigating who the money came from.
We don't know yet if the Ancestry.com tree is correct, but it might be. The family tree creator has identified a no doubt wonderful - but not royal - Norwegian family as Severin's family. They lived on Midbrød in Eigersund, Rogaland. Usually a family tree creator is a descendant, and if so would be a cousin of yours.
Kalgoorlie cemetery lists him as Severin Johnson (no "Cecil") link |
Edited by - JaneC on 09/02/2017 23:09:17 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7765 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2017 : 18:24:10
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Interesting that there is an attest dated 1875 on his confirmation transcription:
{Attest:} V 1875-06-17 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/02/2017 : 20:14:52
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The attestation in the confirmation record relates to the date he was vacinated.
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AntonH
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/02/2017 : 01:11:00
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Good work!
Geni tree for Severin: link
No "Cecil" in his name in the tree.. seemingly that may have been a mistake? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/02/2017 : 02:32:13
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| The geni.com Severin also has a different estimated birthyear. It would be best for someone to connect the dots in Australia between the Severin in the naturalization record to the Severin who dies in 1934, otherwise there are numerous others in Norway to explore. |
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Ronjulee
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 02/03/2017 : 02:46:24
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| Yes Lyndal40, Footscray is a suburb of Melbourne. I have a copy of the naturalisation note for Severin. |
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Ronjulee
Starting member
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Posted - 03/03/2017 : 14:38:46
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JaneC
I do not have a letter or certificate or receipt for the inheritance. Gladys Davey and siblings were all tall blue eyes and her children also. I have even searched wills etc but not a thing comes up |
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