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Jeff Vickoren
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2017 :  16:45:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My family sailed in 1913 on the Kristianiafjord. As a newcomer here how would I start finding names of family members that stayed in Norway?
Thanks

peder
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USA
835 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2017 :  18:10:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
welcome newcomer.
to start if you have the names and dates of birth that would certainly have a place for others to strat with.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2017 :  19:03:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan Jensen (later known as John J. Vickoren) was born 28 Oct 1882 as is laid out in FindAGrave.com

There are pieces of information about this family scattered about on Ancestry.com, WIKItree, FindAGrave, etc. Jeff, to do a thorough investigation those must be gathered together and put into a cogent outline.

I was able to find that Johan Jensen was born on the Vikøren farm in Vik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway to Jens Amundsen and Ingeborg Amundsdatter.

You can't determine what family was left behind until you find out what family there was to begin with.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 06/12/2017 :  19:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Family in 1910 - Vikøren farm in Vik, Sogn og Fjordane
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1910&knr=1417&kenr=007&bnr=0059&lnr=00

Edited by - Hopkins on 06/12/2017 19:38:02
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peder
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USA
835 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2017 :  22:16:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


source from my heritage

Knut Johan Karlsen Rød
1875 - ?
Birth: 1875
Family members
Parents:
Karl Bottolv Knudsen Rød Knudsen Rød
1845 - ?
Bertine Bergesdatter Rød (født Bryggen)
1841 - ?
Wife:
Martine Andersdotter Rød (født Kolås, Lindås)
1877 - ?
Child:
<Private> Røed
Source

Family site:
Gauslå Web Site
Updated on May 4 2017 (7 months ago)57 profiles in one family tree
View full profile in this site
Site manager:
Rune Røed Gauslå
Contact Rune Røed
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Jeff Vickoren
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Posted - 16/01/2018 :  22:47:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies. My grandfather was indeed Johan Jensen born in 1882. I also show his parents to have been Jens Amundsen and Ingeborg Amundsdatter. My grandmother was Karoline Karlsdatter Roed (How do I make the special characters on the keyboard?) I show her parents to have been Karl Knudsen Roed and Bertine Bergesdatter. I do know that she had a brother Knute (or Kinet). I am assuming that there were more siblings, am I wrong?
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/01/2018 :  23:26:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One way you that you can get in contact with people in Norway that may know something about your ancestors that stayed in Norway is open contact with owners or managers of a online Family Tree that contains some of your ancestors. Especially a Family Tree managed by someone currently in Norway. Peder (Doug Pedersen) in his post above gave you a hint by showing you a tree owned by Rune Røed on the website My Heritage. I think in order to get full use out of that site you will need join My Heritage. So that would be one way to start.

Another tree is this one on Geni.com for Knut Johan Karlsen Rød son of Karl Bottolv Knudsen Rød and Bertine Bergesdatter Bryggen. This manager of this site does not include any other children of Karl and Bertine such as your grandmother. This site is managed by Mari Røed and if you join Geni.com (a free site) you can easily contact her by sending an e-mail.

Geni.com
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AntonH
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USA
9216 Posts

Posted - 17/01/2018 :  02:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A second but more complicated route is to trace your family back in time and use that data to trace some other family members who may have stayed in Norway forward in time. Here is an example how you might start.

Here is a link to the 1900 Norwegian Census for Johan Jensen, his brother Amund and their mother Ingeborg Amundsdtr Vikøren. So do you know what happened to Amund, did he also come to America or did he stay in Norway.

1900

You can also go back another generation in time. Here is the marriage record for marriage of Jens Aamundsen and Ingeborg Amundsdatter in Vik, Sogn og Fjordane.

Jens Aamundsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Jens Aamundsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 21 jun 1881
Marriage Place: Vik I Sogn,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway
Spouse: Ingeborg Aamundsdr
FHL Film Number: 278157

Here is a link to the original record.

#9

The original record tells you that Jens Amundsen's father was named Amund Hansen and that Jens was probably born in Bergen in 1855.

Here is likely the baptism record from Ancestry.com

Jens Martin Aamundsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Jens Martin Aamundsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 jul 1855
Baptism Date: 12 aug 1855
Baptism Place: Bergen, Bergen, Norway
Father: Aamund Hansen
Mother: Inger Johanne Jensen
FHL Film Number: 278099

And a link to his original record from Digitalakivet

#119

This is likely the family in the 1865 Norwegian Census. It looks like Jens is the son of the first wife of Amund Hansen and a second son Ole is also present. Now maybe Ole stayed in Norway and had descendants.

1865

The original marriage record also gives a birth year for Ingeborg as 1850, and her father as Amund Sjursen.

This look like her baptism record

Ingeborg Amundsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ingeborg Amundsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 mar 1850
Baptism Date: 15 mar 1850
Baptism Place: , Vik I Sogn, Sogn Og Fjordane, Norway
Father: Amund Sjursen
Mother: Britha Johnsdr
FHL Film Number: 278156

Here is a link to her original baptism record.

#30

The marriage record also gives her place of residence as Gulteig so I would think that this is her mother and sister in the 1865 Census. I assume that the father Amund Sjursen has died by then.

1865

A word of caution here. I have looked at 3 or 4 Family Trees on Ancestry.com and most if not all of them go off the rails here and do not have in my opinion the correct parents for Ingeborg.

Edited by - AntonH on 17/01/2018 04:37:35
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 17/01/2018 :  19:57:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Vickoren

How do I make the special characters on the keyboard?
You can use charmap in Windows to copy the characters you want. Paste them in your text using ctrl v. See video here.

Edited by - jwiborg on 17/01/2018 19:57:37
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9216 Posts

Posted - 18/01/2018 :  16:47:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a couple of ways to get the Norwegian letters when typing on a Widows computer. One way is as Jan Peter suggests to copy and paste them into your document. Another way is to set up a Norwegian keyboard on your Windows computer. Use Start, Settings and language to set up an alternate keyboard. You then can learn to use the Norwegian keyboard or toggle back and forth from the English and the Norwegian keyboard. It helps to print out a copy of the Norwegian Keyboard to help you follow what the keys are. You can print a copy off Wikipedia.

Or if you get lucky as I did and inherit my sons older Mac Book Pro your life will be much simpler. On the Mac you simply hold down the alt/option key and hit o to get ø, and same with a to get å and same with ' to get æ and keep right on typing.

Edited by - AntonH on 18/01/2018 16:48:38
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 18/01/2018 :  18:57:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On an ordinary Windows based keyboard, numlock down, hit alt and hold and then type on the numbers keyboard:
0229 for å
0248 for ø
0230 for æ
0216 for Ø (capital ø)

Sorry don't remember the caps for the other letters.

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Jeff Vickoren
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Posted - 20/01/2018 :  05:19:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All good stuff, it gives me some to go from.

Thanks big time!
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