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rosseric
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Australia
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  07:42:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
could anyone tell me how to trace my grandfather's departure from Norway between 1885 and 1887.his name is Edvard Martin Eriksen,born 1865 in Bergen.i know he left London for Australia in 1887 on the "m.v.Jumna" many thanks .ross

Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  10:43:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haus merged with Bergen 1972
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  15:27:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In a city and in the late 1800s, the last name of Eriksen is more likely to say that the father's last name was also Eriksen, than to say that the father's first name was Erik. Here is a good candidate, then, born August 19th 1865 and baptised March 23d 1866:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070301670405

1865 census and 1875 census. Pupil at the Bergen Cathedral school from 1875 to 1878.

And the same boy (again matching date of birth) in the register for a military (navy) roll. I am not sure if the roll is availbale online, and it may not necessarily contain much information if he didn't in fact serve.

Edited by - ToreL on 06/10/2019 15:32:16
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ToreL
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Norway
271 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2019 :  16:14:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The best bet to find the time of emigration from Bergen, would be here:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/sources?s=&from=1885&to=1887&format=all&archive_key=&sc%5B0%5D=em&m%5B0%5D=1301

I didn't have any success with the searchable list, but am not sure if the searchable list is based on the scanned protocols, or on something else.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  19:56:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seilmager Edvard Eriksen was in bankruptcy proceedings in 1888, reported in the Bergens Adressecontoirs paper.

No age given in this family notice:
"ERICKSON -The Funeral of the late EDWARD
MARTIN ERICKSON, of 19 Edwin-street, Manly,
and formerly of Quarantine Station, Manly, will
leave Our Private Chapel, 92 Corso, Manly, THIS
AFTERNOON (Friday), at 2.30 o'clock, for the
Manly Cemetery.
T. WAUGH and CO,
Manly and Mosman
Tele, YU1118 and Y2144"

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Fri 1 Aug 1930
Page 9 col 1 Family Notices

Edited by - jkmarler on 06/10/2019 20:02:11
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  20:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These people are listed as survivors of their sister and aunt Katharine Erichsen age 67 years, who died 22 Jan 1890 :
Edw. Erichsen
pastor Peder Waage Erichsen
pastor Ragnvald Gjessing
Sunni Erichsen

Bergens Tidende Friday 24 Jan 1890 page 4 col 1
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  23:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did he married Sissela Sjursdatter b 1871 from farm Seim in Haus
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  23:26:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The OP has a tree on ancestry in which his wife is listed as

Ann Floyd Drinkwater (1)
1870–1958
BIRTH 10 APR 1870 • Paterson River, NSW. Australia
DEATH 11TH SEPT 1958 • Chatswood, New South Wales. Australia

And this marriage record

Edward Martin Erickson
in the Australia, Newspaper Vital Notices, 1831-2001
Name: Edward Martin Erickson
Gender: Male
Notice Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1894
Father: Edw Erickson
Spouse: Annie Floyd
Publication Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  23:34:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was baptised and conformated in Nykirken
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2019 :  23:41:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Comfirmated in Nykirken 1881. Parents; sailmaker Edvard Eriksen and Elisabeth Marie Waage, see #15

Edited by - Kċarto on 07/10/2019 00:52:38
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Kċarto
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Norway
5812 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2019 :  00:04:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edvards parents and two siblings in a familytree link

Edited by - Kċarto on 07/10/2019 01:01:11
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
6517 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2019 :  00:30:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Father married a 2nd time:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000000162843

Father and daughter Sunni living in 1891:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052994034807

Brother Peter Waage Eriksen in 1900:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037248000864

Both Regine and Sunni in Oslo in 1885:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053257047273

Regine living with husband and children and in-laws in 1891:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052721048264

Regine as Regi living with husband and children in 1900 in Hole in Rogaland, so she who had been out of the country during part of the 189s was back in in 1900:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037272000584

Sunniva left Norway in 1893:\
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000689803

The Geni database assigns 19 Feb 1900 death date to Edvard Eriksen the father. Here it is #1:
SAST, Hĝgsfjord sokneprestkontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0008: Parish register (official) no. A 8, 1898-1920, p. 133
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050901050855

#14 SAST, Hĝle og Forsand lensmannskontor, Gga/L0001: "Fortegnelse over Afdĝde i Hĝle Thinglag fra 1ste Juli 1875 til ", 1875-1902, p. 110
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10511112062117
Says he is survived by 4 adult children 2 of which are living "udlandet" from the first marriage. Not sure what the other 2 mentioned are about.

The son Peter was a missionary at one time out of the country, not sure that he was that on 19 Feb 1900. Sunniva was on the police lists of Bergen leaving in 1893.

Sunniva is listed as married to a painter when she left. Here is one such last name Martens, painter leaving in 1892 but not married:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000889988

Sunni Martens is in US in 1900:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DCPW-ZP3?i=20&cc=1325221
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSVR-SWF

Edited by - jkmarler on 07/10/2019 08:41:15
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
6517 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2019 :  02:47:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edvard Martin Eriksen the younger is not mentioned as surviving in the father Edvard Martin Eriksen's obit in 1900. Nor is he mentioned by name in the obit published on Sunni when she dies in San Diego California in 1909, except as fraverende brors "absentee brothers."

Sunniva Martens was granted an absolute divorce from her husband Henry J Martens in 1901. He was an artist. He deserted her in 1898 and left behind a note which mentioned his unhappiness. They met in Stockholm, according to the newspaper article titled "Did he commit Suicide?"
Jersey City news. Monday, Mar 25, 1901 Jersey City, NJ Vol: 13 Issue: 3634 Page: 2 col 1.

Edited by - jkmarler on 07/10/2019 02:59:24
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rosseric
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Australia
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Posted - 07/10/2019 :  09:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for all of your imput.i have most of it in my tree.i will chase up the emigration records. thanks again, ross
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ToreL
Senior member

Norway
271 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2019 :  12:57:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good luck. I had a look at your tree at Ancestry, and noticed you have some "deep" branches in Bergen, containing, among others, members of the Giering family. This family appears to be connected with the Hanseatic Office, so sooner or later it should be explored at the www.hanseater.no website.

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