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Gustav Erik Blaalid
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Posted - 01/10/2018 :  18:47:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Infomation from Digitalarkivet indicates that ancestors I am investigating left Bergen 17. April 1880 with Cunard Line. I have no more information about vessel or destination (Hull, Liverpool, or any others). I have no information on which destination in USA/Canada.
Anybody who knows more about departures from Bergen at that time?
Names: Father and mother Kristen Jetmundsen and Katrine (Fitje) Jetmundsen.
Sons: Jetmund Kristensen (+ wife two kids), Anders (+ wife and two kids), Kristen (single) and daughter Jøde.

Gustav-Erik Blaalid

JaneC
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Posted - 01/10/2018 :  20:26:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It may help to post the link, so here's Christen Jetmundsen Fitje traveling in 1880.
This adds information, such as birth years, that might help locate them on a passenger manifest.
link

If the corresponding passenger manifests are hard to find, one could look to the naturalization (citizenship) papers for the travellers. A lot of research on the family here:
link

Edited by - JaneC on 01/10/2018 21:18:33
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peder
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Posted - 01/10/2018 :  21:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from 'myheritage' paid genealogy tree site

Kristen Jetmundsen
1824 - ?
Birth: 1824
Marriage: Marriage to: Katrine Andersdtr. Fitje
July 4 1846
Family members
Parents:
Jetmund Abrahamson Hauge
1789 - ?
Gyda Knutsdotter Hauge (født Føleide)
Wife:
Katrine Andersdtr. Jetmundsen (født Fitje)
1819 - 1908
Children:
Jetmund Kristensen
1847 - 1937
Jøde Kristendtr. Hildo
1853 - 1938
Kristen Kristensen
1861 - ?
Anders Kristensen
1849 - ?
Rakel Søreide (født Kristensen Fitje)
1855 - 1936
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peder
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Posted - 01/10/2018 :  21:47:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jøde Kristendtr. Hildo
1853 - ?
Birth: Jan 11 1853
Marriage: Marriage to: Daniel A. Hildo
Nov 7 1880
Benson Minesota
Family members
Parents:
Kristen Jetmundsen
1824 - ?
Katrine Andersdtr. Jetmundsen (born Fitje)
1819 - 1908
Husband:
Daniel A. Hildo
1848 - ?
Siblings:
Jetmund Kristensen
1847 - 1937
Rakel Søreide (born Kristensen Fitje)
1855 - 1936
Anders Kristensen
1849 - ?
Christ C Christenson
1861 - 1916
Children:
Cecilie D. Hilde
1883 - ?
Anna Hilde
1887 - 1974
Ole Hilde
1891 - 1961
Anton Hilde
1884 - 1973
Kristen Hilde
1889 - ?
Dina Josephine Hilde
1893 - 1957
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lyndal40
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Posted - 01/10/2018 :  21:48:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little hard to find the arrival. But they were in Minnesota by June.

Christen Fitje
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Christen Fitje
Age: 56
Birth Date: Abt 1824
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Swedes Forest, Redwood, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number: 30
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Blacksmith
Months not employed: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Christen Fitje 56
Catrina Fitje 57
Jode Fitje 26
Christen Fitje 18
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peder
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Posted - 01/10/2018 :  21:52:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rakel Søreide (born Kristensen Fitje)
1855 - 1936
Birth: Apr 25 1855
Birth: Apr 25 1855
Death: 1936
Family members
Parents:
Kristen Jetmundsen
1824 - ?
Katrine Andersdtr. Jetmundsen (born Fitje)
1819 - 1908
Husband:
Lars E. Søreide
1849 - 1920
Siblings:
Jetmund Kristensen
1847 - 1937
Jøde Kristendtr. Hildo
1853 - ?
Anders Kristensen
1849 - ?
Christ C Christenson
1861 - 1916
Son:
Erik L. Søreide
1885 - 1971
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Gustav Erik Blaalid
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Posted - 02/10/2018 :  05:56:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have all the information about the family, where they settled, etc. What I can`t find is the travel record: Dates, names of vessel, etc

Gustav-Erik Blaalid
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/10/2018 :  15:11:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's helpful to the forum to know a bit more about Christenn Fitje, such as his location in US, how long he lived, etc as well as details about the children who were born in Norway and came to America.

There are a couple of sources in US which might possibly tell a detail about their voyage, if search in the online passenger lists fails to find a record.

Did a family member ever file to become a US citizen? The first papers, the declaration of intention to become a citizen, will contain, depending on the era when it was filed, a month and year of landing and which US port the person entered. This might narrow which record set needs to be examined which might actually contain the information you want about a vessel, etc.

Personal reminicenses might be recorded in any record of a biographical nature, such as stories in county histories, local histories, an obituary or a newspaper article.

This is why it's helpful to the forum to know more about the people.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/10/2018 :  15:20:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a naturalization record for someone with a last name similar to Jetmundson in the same county as they were in 1880. No dates given in the index but this record can be ordered at the Iron Range interpretive center site:
http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/details/7/469196/

Naturalization Record
First Name: CHRISTIA (CHRISTA)
Last Name: JETNEIENDSON
Location: REDWOOD
County: REDWOOD
State: MINNESOTA
Code: 1
Reel: 1
Volume: 'A'
Page: 278
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/10/2018 :  20:40:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apparently Christen is still alive in 1885, still in Redwood county:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQX5-YBJ

1900 US census Christen and Katrina still alive:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9QZ-CQP
image : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LKC-HC2?i=7&cc=1325221

And Christen's entry reveals that his status is Pa (Papers filed).

Edited by - jkmarler on 02/10/2018 20:53:15
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Gustav Erik Blaalid
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Posted - 03/10/2018 :  01:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have all names and birth records for the family. The names are spelled differently.
Father: Kristen Jetmundsen, Born 1824 (written, Christen Jetmundson, amongst other)
Mother: Katrine (born Fitje) Jetmundsen. Born 1819, died 1908. (written Kathrine, Kathrina, etc)
Oldest son: Jetmund Kristensen (1847-1937) (written Jetmund Christenson)., wife Olina (e) (1843-1925). Son: Kristen Mathias Jetmundsen (1873-1955) . Daughter: Maria (Born 1882 in US), married to Tom Froistad
Son: Anders Kristensen (born 1849), wife: Sise: Son: Kristen Anderson (born 1875), Daugther: Katrine Anderson (1878 - 1963). Son: Peter Anderson (1882, born in US, - 1944)
Daughter: Jøde Kristensen (1853 - 1938), married to Daniel Hilde (her name is written as Gyda, Jodi, Julia, etc)
Son: Kristen Kristensen (Born 1861, married to Bertha Johanne Kvistad, in the US

This is some of the information I have. Also I know a lot about their offsprings, settlements etc.
But nothing about their depart from the old country or the arrival to the new continent.

Interesting information about the citizenship. May be you can explain more where to find this?

Gustav-Erik Blaalid
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lyndal40
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Posted - 03/10/2018 :  01:55:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is an example of a transcription of the Naturalization Record from Ancestry.com for Daniel Hilde. In some cases the transcription is quite detailed and gives some information on the arrival of the person into America. This one is very simple and gives very little information. It does give the location of the Final Papers.

Daniel Anthonson Hilde
in the Minnesota, Naturalization Records Index, 1854-1957
Name: Daniel Anthonson Hilde
County: Swift
Reel: 4
Code: 11
Volume: C
Page: 435
Document Type: Final Papers
YEARS: 1897 -1903
Numbers: 1-547

His wife Julia Hilde (Jøde Christensdatter Fitje) also applied for citizenship.

Julia Hilde
in the Minnesota, Naturalization Records Index, 1854-1957
Name: Julia Hilde
County: Polk
Reel: 2
Code: 3
Volume: C
Page: 492
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
YEARS: 1882 -1884
Numbers: 1-599

Read about Minnesota Naturalization Records here.

Link

Edited by - lyndal40 on 03/10/2018 02:04:44
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lyndal40
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Posted - 03/10/2018 :  02:25:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finding the passage of this rather large family has been very difficult. It sometimes helps to look for other passengers who left on the same day as the people of interest to see if some information can be gathered that way. In this case that has not been successful for me.

Another place to find arrival information can be a passport application. Here is a link to the meta data for the family leaving Bergen.

Link

You can see the last passenger on the list for the Cunard Line is Elling Olsen Lyslo. Here is a passport application for him.

Elling O Lyslo
in the U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
Name: Elling O Lyslo
Age: 59
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1861
Birth Place: Indvegen Bergenstift, Norway
Residence Place: Camp Lake, Minnesota
Passport Issue Date: 1 May 1920
Father: Ole Lyslo
Has Photo: Yes

Here is the application itself, unfortunately it only gives a date for his leaving Norway and that seems to be incorrect since we know he left on April 17. 1880.


Edited by - lyndal40 on 03/10/2018 02:32:53
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lyndal40
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Posted - 03/10/2018 :  02:42:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elling O Lysol has also applied for Naturalization. His record does give some information as to where his record is stored.

Elling O Lyslo
in the Web: Minnesota, Naturalization Index, 1849-1985
Name: Elling O Lyslo
Naturalization Year Range: 1849-1943
Residence Place: Swift, Minnesota, USA

A URL is attached to the record which leads to the Iron Range Research Center.

Link

Which has the following information and gives you the ability to order the record.

Naturalization Record
FIRST NAME: ELLING O.
LAST NAME: LYSLO
LOCATION: SWIFT
COUNTY: SWIFT
STATE: MINNESOTA
CODE: 10
REEL: 3
VOLUME: B
PAGE: 334

The record may or may not have further information on the person such as when the arrived.

Daniel Hilde also has a record at the same place

Link

Naturalization Record
FIRST NAME: DANIEL ANTHONSON
LAST NAME: HILDE
LOCATION: SWIFT
COUNTY: SWIFT
STATE: MINNESOTA
CODE: 11
REEL: 4
VOLUME: C
PAGE: 435

And Julia as well, each document seems to cost ten dollars.

Link

Naturalization Record
FIRST NAME: JULIA
LAST NAME: HILDE
LOCATION: POLK
COUNTY: POLK
STATE: MINNESOTA
CODE: 3
REEL: 2
VOLUME: C
PAGE: 492

Edited by - lyndal40 on 03/10/2018 02:49:12
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/10/2018 :  08:30:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the index listing for Jetmund Christenson:
First Name: JETMUND
Last Name: CHRISTENSEN
Location: REDWOOD
County: REDWOOD
State: MINNESOTA
Code: 1
Reel: 1
Volume: 'A'
Page: 273

http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/details/7/469187/
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Gustav Erik Blaalid
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Posted - 08/10/2018 :  20:00:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for hints. I have ordered records for Jetmund and Julia (Jøde) from the Iron Range Search Center.

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