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ToreL
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Posted - 09/09/2018 :  23:25:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A pity my ancestor wasn’t the first. He wasn’t the second, either, but he could be the third if it wasn’t for Knute. My Marie and Jens had a daughter born in 1856, called Kjerstine at the Christening and Kirstine at the emigration entry in the Ringsaker ministerial book. Where did you find these data from the civil war?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 10/09/2018 :  00:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The info is taken from soldier profiles @ Vesterheim and NAGCNL.

Census-1900 shows that the Mary Hanson in question immigrated about 1850.
So likely not a good kandidate. Question is; is this really the wife of Jens Hanson of Onalaska, Wis.
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JaneC
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Posted - 10/09/2018 :  14:21:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the original handwritten census
1860 in Neshonoc, LaCrosse, Wisconsin:
1860 Neshonoc

I read every page - no family similar to Jens Hansen. I'm uncertain if this is the only census report for Neshonoc. Other census reports exist for nearby areas.

Here's a map of LaCrosse county from the 1870s, showing the townships. A township is a rural area that may include several villages and towns.
1870s map

Edited by - JaneC on 10/09/2018 16:12:50
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lyndal40
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Posted - 12/09/2018 :  22:32:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also just checked every page of Onalaska Township, La Crosse County. No good candidates for Jens Hansen or his family.

And Barre as well.

And Farmington

And Jackson

And Hamburg, Bad Ax

And Greenfield

And Bangor

And La Crosse Ward 2

And La Crosse Ward 4

And La Crosse Ward 1

And Campbell

And Holland

And Buchanan

And Burns

And La Crosse Ward 3

Edited by - lyndal40 on 13/09/2018 03:03:44
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lyndal40
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Posted - 13/09/2018 :  03:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Going through the 1860 Census by Township did not turn up any family that resembled Jens Hansen, wife and children. I felt that I should surely be able to find the Jens Hansen and family discussed by Jan Peter on page one.

3) Jens Hanson, born about 1816 in Norway.
Married and resided in Onalaska, LaCrosse County, Wisconsin.
Discharged from the service at Jacinto, Mississippi, on account of disability, 6 Aug 1862.
After the war, he moved back to La Crosse County. He and his wife, Mary, had 4 children.
By 1900, only 2 were still living, including Knute (1856). Mary was living with Knute at the time of the 1900 Census, as Jens died before 1890.

The closest I came to this family is this one.

Brown Hanson
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Brown Hanson
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1860: Jackson, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Post Office: La Crosse
Dwelling Number: 2246
Family Number: 1915
Occupation: Farmer
Real Estate Value: 1200
Personal Estate Value: 350
Household Members:
Name Age
Brown Hanson 36
Mary Hanson 30
Hans Hanson 10
Helen Hanson 6
Kund Hanson 4
Sike Hanson 24

Birth date of husband is about right, wife is named Mary and one child is named Knute. But names are not very close, only three children not four and I have no idea why the name Brown and who Sika is.
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lyndal40
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Posted - 13/09/2018 :  18:02:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only other Hanson family of interest that I found while searching through the Townships of La Crosse County was this one.

John Hanson
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name: John Hanson
Age: 49
Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1860: Buchanan, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Post Office: La Crosse
Dwelling Number: 1507
Family Number: 1282
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hanson 49
Force Hanson 19
Helena Hanson 16
Rachel Hanson 14
Hans Hanson 12
Christine Hanson 9
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/09/2018 :  16:25:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at other immigrants from Ringsaker, Ole Evensen Frislie and family departed 1857.
link

Online discussion of this family by descendants state the family first settled in West Salem, LaCrosse, Wisconsin - a near neighbor to Neshonoc. One poster was a granddaughter of Ole's son Thorleif Frislie, born 1863 Wisconsin. About 1870 the Frislie family left for Minnehaha county, South Dakota. Ole died in 1878.

Find-a-Grave Memorial
Ole Evensen Frislie
1812-1878
Burial : Brandon, Minnehaha, South Dakota
link

Likewise, Jens Hansen could have moved on by 1870. As a very long shot, South Dakota might be a possibility. Are there additional farm names we should be using as search terms?

An earlier discussion:
link

Edited by - JaneC on 15/09/2018 18:40:23
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ToreL
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Posted - 15/09/2018 :  18:38:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The table I linked to from my original post contained the farm names of the emigrants. I think I have seen the first of them, Sørum, in the 1880 census, used by the same people now living in anorher state. I hope to get the time to set up an expanded table with matches in other censuses than the 1870 one, and containing more Ringsaker people.
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/09/2018 :  18:48:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good idea, about expanding the list of emigrants.

Here are some genealogy sites for Wisconsin and Minnesota:

History of LaCrosse County (book) link

Wisconsin Historical Society link

Minnesota Historical Society

Most counties have their own genealogy website.

Mike Oiseth's website, for Dodge county, Minnesota (and some info from surrounding area). link

Dalby Database link

Chronicling America (a Library of Congress website with searchable historical newspapers)

Iron Range Research Center (Minnesota)

Find-a-Grave

Billion Graves

Local county history books

Available as a PDF online is a list of settlers (including Norwegian immigrants) affected by or killed in the1862 Dakota conflict in Minnesota between setlers and Native Americans

I've searched most of the above. Probably other people have too.

South Dakota genealogy. link

Edited by - JaneC on 17/09/2018 13:20:35
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/09/2018 :  14:41:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the first Jens Hansen proved up homesteads at the Bureau of Land Management sites. One of these might be target Jens or none of them might be target Jens:

View Patent Image MN2310__.256 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 4/2/1857 1941 MN 5th PM
101N - 007W E½SE¼ 20 Houston
101N - 007W SW¼SE¼ 20 Houston

View Patent Image MN2600__.151 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS A 8/5/1869 682 MN 5th PM
110N - 033W NW¼ 9 Brown

View Patent Image MN1930__.042 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 11/10/1873 1564 MN 5th PM
127N - 030W E½NE¼ 8 Morrison

View Patent Image NE1830__.197 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 8/15/1875 1647 NE 6th PM 020N - 009E
E½SW¼ 30 Dodge

View Patent Image NE2370__.251 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS FREDERICK 4/25/1877 796 NE 6th PM
027N - 008E SW¼ 27 Dakota

View Patent Image MN1340__.433 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 6/15/1877 3116 MN 5th PM 106N - 019W NE¼SW¼ 14 Steele
106N - 019W NW¼SE¼ 14 Steele

View Patent Image UT0130__.280 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 8/6/1878 801 UT Salt Lake
018S - 002E NW¼ 11 Sanpete

View Patent Image UT0140__.042 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 10/1/1879 1077 UT Salt Lake
015S - 004E S½NW¼ 5 Sanpete
015S - 004E Lot/Trct 3 5 Sanpete
015S - 004E Lot/Trct 4 5 Sanpete
015S - 004E

View Patent Image WI3640__.085 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 12/15/1879 1147 WI 4th PM - 1831 MN/WI
019N - 006E SW¼ 13 Adams

View Patent Image MN2510__.428 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 12/30/1879 5121 MN 5th PM
101N - 044W NW¼ 32 Rock

View Patent Image KS3760__.133 PatenteeHANSEN, JENS 3/30/1880 9783 KS 6th PM 028S - 007W E½SW¼ 31 Kingman
028S - 007W W½SE¼ 31 Kingman
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JaneC
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Posted - 16/09/2018 :  16:43:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ToreL

The table I linked to from my original post contained the farm names of the emigrants.


Yes, obviously Tore - I had already seen that. Thanks.

To clarify, my question was: Are there any other farm names the Jens Hansen family might use -
possibilities that are NOT on the table.

As we all know, Norwegian immigrants adopted a permanent surname in the USA, either a patronym or a version of the farm name (usually the farm name used in the emigration record). But as a long shot, less commonly, the family used another, different farm name.

A family tree:
link

Edited by - JaneC on 16/09/2018 18:32:16
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ToreL
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Posted - 16/09/2018 :  22:02:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

To clarify, my question was: Are there any other farm names the Jens Hansen family might use -
possibilities that are NOT on the table.


Sorry for the misunderstanding. (And grateful for your efforts.) Most of these people, including Jens and Marie, were "husmannsfolk", i.e., they didn't own any land themselves, just rented some small, dependent farm (plass) and often moved several times during a lifetime. Jens came from the "plass" Lillebratten under the farm Jemtland. The places of residence for the couple when the three younger children were baptized in 1844, 1848 and 1856, were given as Dahlbye, Langkloppen and Blaaserbrænden, respectively. I am not sure if these are different names for the same "plass".

Edited by - ToreL on 17/09/2018 04:48:11
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 17/09/2018 :  02:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
torel found a jens franson 1880 wisconsin census wife maria vernon co wisconsin might be the person your looking for ialso found a mathias hansen1870 census wisconsin vernon county married vernon county is right next to lacrosse county
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ToreL
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Posted - 18/09/2018 :  23:19:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still very far from catching up with all your input and suggestions, but here at least is the list of people from the passport protocol on 5/5 1858, expanded with children from church book:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uRTRorNp1b3PTjlOPf1_FUf_9g6_bvly
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lyndal40
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Posted - 19/09/2018 :  23:04:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am assuming that you are building up a data base and are also hopeful that the data base will lead to Jens Hansen and family. Here is another family to add to the list of 1870 families.

This is likely the family of Ole Thomessen Økildsrudeie

Thomas Thompson
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Thompson
Age in 1870: 16
Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Norway
Dwelling Number: 38
Home in 1870: Holland, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farm Laborer
Father of Foreign Birth: Y
Mother of Foreign Birth: Y
Inferred Father: Ole Thompson
Inferred Mother: Anna Thompson
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Thompson 48
Anna Thompson 46
Thomas Thompson 16
Anna Thompson 11

Ole Thompson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Ole Thompson
Age: 59
Birth Date: Abt 1821
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Holland, La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
Dwelling Number: 136
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Agneth Thompson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Thompson 59
Agneth Thompson 53
Thomas O. Thompson 26
Anna Thompson 21

This person has a Family Tree for this family on Ancestry.com

Jordan_Laurie
Port Washington, Ozaukee, Wisconsin, USA

A record on the daughter born in Wisconsin.

Anne O Thompson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1969
Name: Anne O Thompson
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 6 Nov 1885
Marriage Place: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
Father: Ole Thompson
Mother: Agnete Amundson
Spouse: John Gilbertson
Church Name: Halfway Creek Congregation
Church Location: Holmen, Wisconsin

Edited by - lyndal40 on 19/09/2018 23:10:02
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