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brejohns
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Posted - 13/02/2018 :  23:47:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes - I agree we do have a match. Yesterday I received an email from the funeral director. Our Ole was born in Auma Norway and his parents were Arne and Karen Haugen.

Good Afternoon Brenda,

I was able to locate the file for the late Ole Paul Haugen. Mr. Haugen passed away on February 20, 1965 at the Alberta Hospital Ponoka at the age of 58 years. He was born in Auma, Norway to Arne and Karen Haugen. Mr. Haugen was buried in the Forest Home Cemetery in Ponoka on February 26, 1965. His funeral was arranged by the Dept. of Veteran's Affairs.

This is the only information I am able to find. I hope it is helpful.


Sincerely,
Marlon Wombold
Funeral Director

Whew - sure glad I didn't give up. jkmarler you kept giving me ideas. Now how can I find out if he had any children?

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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 14/02/2018 :  00:01:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One would hope that one of the 3 Haugen marriages might be his, but I'm suspicious that Lillian Paulson Haugen might be the wife of Olav Paulsen Haugen, in which case Olav might be responsible for the other Ole Haugen marriage as well. Don't know.

I wonder if Canada automatically made you a citizen if you served in the forces or if there were some other process. Maybe the Corps has more records someplace.
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brejohns
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Posted - 14/02/2018 :  02:11:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've contact the Veteran's Affairs with an email address from the Canadian Genealogy Facebook page. They have a program called Last Post. They might have a bit more information since they buried him. I still haven't received his death certificate and I still have the 1940 registration report to be mailed to me. Plus maybe the funeral director might have family information. We'll see. So excited to finally confirm that this is our Ole P Haugen. His son who was searching for him is now 86 years old and wanted so badly to know if he had relatives living in Canada. It would be nice to finally get this information to him.
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brejohns
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Posted - 14/02/2018 :  02:14:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you think that the 1941 marriage to Elva A. Peck is not our Ole P Haugen?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/02/2018 :  02:40:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, if the Ole Haugen living at Dinant is actually Olav Paulson Haugen, and Lillian Paulson Haugen in FAG is actually Olav Paulson Haugen's wife, it means that Olav Paulson Haugen is also eligible. The indexes don't give enough information to eliminate one or the other or to support one or the other. More info needed.

It sometimes happens that a soldier entering service gets married just before. That's what happened with my folks. Dad's draft notice sealed the deal.
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brejohns
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Posted - 15/02/2018 :  20:41:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today is a good day. Hurrah! I received the death certificate for Ole Paul Haugen who died in the Ponoka Hospital on 2/20/1965 and he is indeed our Ole. The certificate says he was born on April 19, 1906 in Auma Norway and his parents were Arne and Karen Haugen. It states he came to Canada in 1930 and he was a laborer in farming but had not worked at this occupation since 1947. He died due to a heart condition and complications of pneumonia. It states he had surgery on February 18, 1965 and that the doctor had treated him for the past 14 years. Although I'm unable to decipher the doctor's name. It gives a permanent address of 10138-113 Street in Edmonton, Alberta. It also contains a surprise - it says he was divorced at the time of his death, however the wife's name is unknown. It seems I need to find a copy of the divorce records and see if an obit is listed in the Edmonton newspapers. Any suggestions?
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brejohns
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Posted - 15/02/2018 :  20:49:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just received this reply from the Veterans' Affairs, but responded that I do indeed have a copy of the death certificate. We'll see what their response is.

Good morning,

Unfortunately Veterans Affairs Canada is unable to assist you in this search. We are required to protect the privacy of individuals for up to twenty years following their death, so without proper proof of death, we would be unable to search anything related to your relative.

Additionally, we are required to protect the information of third parties (also for twenty years following their death), therefore any information about other individuals other than your relative (if any existed) would be protected.

I might suggest that you try social media platforms such as Ancesty or Facebook.

Thank you for your inquiry,

Danica Steele
Chief, ATIP Client Services Unit
1-877-566-8609
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/02/2018 :  21:47:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hopefully, Danica will see the error of her ways when she reads of his death certificate and death in 1965. From her description of death + 20, his records should be made available.

Well, you can't have a divorce without a marriage, so there must be something someplace.

Wonder what occupied him from 1947-1965?
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brejohns
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  04:40:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking he married Elva A. Peck in 1941. He tried farming but wasn't very good at it and quit in 1947. But that really was too young to retire. I wonder if he was sickly? I noticed Elva worked at the Unemployment Agency in Edmonton, although her address was not the same as the one listed on Ole's death certificate. His death certificate says the doctor had treated him since 1951 for a heart condition.

I received a reply from the Provincial Archives of Alberta today. They located a divorce file for Ole and said I could order copies of it. Hurrah! Sure hope there is a bit more information.

By the way, I did email Danica again and sent her copies of the death certificate. Not the most friendly email. She did say they would send some information but may have to block out some due to privacy. I said I understood that if a person was living they couldn't include their information, but I'm certain Ole's ex-wife is dead also. She said I would have to have a death certificate for her as well or they would have to block out her information.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  05:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, Danica has given some information to you, since she tells that she would redact any information about Ole's wife. So you'll know he was married at the time of enlistment based on that.

Perhaps he was disabled as the result of his service and had no occupation after 1947 as a result?
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brejohns
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  17:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes - you may be right about some type of disability. It is odd that he hadn't farmed since 1941 but maybe he was doing a different kind of work. It's hard to tell.

I received another email this morning from Provincial Archives of Alberta and they are sending me a copy of Ole's divorce file and she said it was 35 pages! Sure hope there is more information in it and not just legal stuff. I haven't heard back from Danica at the Veteran's affairs but I think it will help round out the picture of Ole even if she redacts some info. Another blog friend in Edmonton is going to check the newspaper obits for me too. Such wonderful help from everyone. We are blessed.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  18:27:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A 35 page divorce file? Seems like a lot of stuff there. Maybe it was contentious.

Holding for Danica!
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brejohns
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Posted - 18/02/2018 :  21:46:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Canadian Genealogist checked the Edmonton Journal for an obit for Ole. She emailed me today saying there was nothing listing for him. I know sometimes they don't print an obit. Sad.
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brejohns
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Posted - 04/03/2018 :  23:47:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I received the divorce papers from the Archives of Alberta. A copy of the marriage license was included. The papers confirmed that this is indeed our Ole Paul Haugen born April 19, 1906. Summarized as follows:

Ole Paul Haugen married Elva Agnes Gilchrist (formerly Peck) on the 31st day of October 1941. A marriage certificate was enclosed. It said Ole lived in Calgary Alberta and was born in Tynset Norway. He was 35 years old and was a bachelor. His occupation was listed as a soldier. His parents were Arne Haugen and Karen Strom. Elva was 34 years old and was a widow. Her occupation was a stenographer (secretary). Her parents were James Henry Peck and Eva Susan Pratt. They were married at Hillhurst Baptist Church in Calgary Alberta by Rev. H. Nordlund.
Ole Paul Haugen and Elva Haugen lived in Calgary for about one month then Ole had to go to Ontario for Army duties. Ole and Elva moved to the City of Kingston Ontario and lived together for 2 months then Ole went overseas and Elva returned to Calgary.
There were no children born of this marriage.
Ole filed for divorce in June 1945 on the grounds that Elva was not faithful.
A trial was scheduled for June 19, 1945. Elva never filed any contest to the court.
It appears Ole had to change attorneys as the first attorney lost some of his divorce papers.
A photo of Elva was included, but it is quite dark.
Decree Nisi (court order) was entered on October 5, 1945.
A divorce was granted and finalized on January 14, 1946.

A sad ending for poor Ole. We are hoping that more information will be included with his veteran papers.

I still need to see if Ole could have been married in the early 1930s and if this wife is buried at the Bethlehem Lutheran Church in Camrose. We did find a voting census where Mrs. Ole P Haugen voted in 1935. It may be that he was married twice. I think I should rule this out if I can.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 05/03/2018 :  17:53:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Every happy family is happy in the same way, every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.

Here are Elva and her parents in 1910 in Cass county, North Dakota:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLGZ-QZ8

The parents' marriage in 1897 in Cass county, N.D.:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2Z3-5776

Edited by - jkmarler on 05/03/2018 18:25:40
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