Lost family from Norsewood New Zealand
NatalieI am looking for desendants from Oline and Fredrick mortensen who came to Norsewood on the Holvdig (not sure of spelling) in 1872 from Norway. They settled in Norsewood and were one of the first settlers there. I think they had many children who came out with them. i am a desendant of one of their sons who i am sure was the oldest Fritjof Mortensen. He left his family (children and wife) and ranaway to Australia where he changed his name to Morton to hide the fact that he had commited Adultry. i believe he died in Australia in about1930 something i am not sure.I am searching for all living desendants from him (his family he left behind in new zealand) and any other infromation about his ancestors and parents would be much apreachiated.
BorgeThe name of the ship is spelled [url="http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=hovdi"]Høvding[/url]
Nataliethankyou borge for the spelling, but do you know anything about my family?
Borge
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Originally posted by Natalie
thankyou borge for the spelling, but do you know anything about my family?
No, I'm afraid not. Your best chance might be with some of those others who are related to the Norsewood pioneers. I guess you just have to be a little patient and something might come up.
Natalieok thankyou, very much. do you know of any people on this site who are realated to the norsewood pioneers, do i have to look them up on the members index?
Borge
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ok thankyou, very much. do you know of any people on this site who are realated to the norsewood pioneers, do i have to look them up on the members index?
The best thing is just to be patient and let them find you. There is no passenger list as I konw of for the Høvding, but the passengers can be found in the lists of emigrants made up by the Norwegian police. You will find [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=25353&fulle=true&spraak=e"]Fredrik Mortensen and family[/url] leaving from Kristiania (now Oslo) registered there (just follow the link). Here is the [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=25083&fulle=true&spraak=e"]Fredriksen family[/url]
I have to ask that all postings regarding the Mortensens on the Høvding in 1872 are kept to this tread from now on, this to make it possible to keep the structure on the board here. I will delete any other posts regarding the same topic posted elsewhere. Please read the [url="http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1035"]Posting Guidelines[/url]
BorgeSeams that the Norsewood pioneers were keeping in contect even after leaving Norsewood. Here are some pictures from Ingrid Semmingsen's book "Veien mot vest" p. 304:
[img]http://www.norwayheritage.com/images/norsewood-pioneers.jpg[/img] Norwegin Norsewood pioneers at the 1922 gathering (50 yesrs after the arrival) - Picture in coutesy of Nordmansforbundet [img]http://www.norwayheritage.com/images/norsewood.jpg[/img] This is a picture from the main road in Norsewood
BriningHi Natalie, Are you sure that Oline was Fredrick's 1st wife? On the Digitalarkivet there is a Fredrik Mortensen, wife Anne Marie and 5 children sailing on the Hovding [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=25353&fulle=true&spraak=e"]Click Here[/url] In the 1865 census they are living in Christiana (Oslo) with 6 children [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60301.wc2&variabel=0&postnr=48910&fulle=true&spraak=n"]Click Here[/url] so Marthe Mathilde either stayed behind, died or possibly married and is sailing under a different name. Carl Fredrik/Fritjof could be your Fritjof. If you have any birth years, maybe you can confirm if this is your family. Also you should see if you can find a death record for Anne Marie or marriage for Fredrik and Oline One of the children's birth record is on the LDS [url="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=29629937&lds=4®ion=12®ionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99"]Click Here[/url] which lists Anne Marie's last name as Halvorsdatter Carla
NatalieThankyou so so much Brining you have been so helpful i rang my granfather and it seems you are right oline was not his wife at all but his grandaughter (oops!) i have been trying to find information about the people you just found for ages!! yes that is my fritjof and i also just found out that fredriks real name is johan fredrick, which would explain why i cant find much on him! Thankyou for the pictures and your help to borge!
kay Dear Natalie. My Great Gran Father was Karl Frithjof Mortensen, who married Julia Adrian. on 3rd August 1878. at Norsewood. Karl was aged 20yrs, Julia 19yrs. My Granmother Ruby was one of many. So pleased to have caught up with some-one who knows of his departure.( naughty Boy). Do you know where in Australia he died,as I would like to get his details. Are you related to him personally, I would love more info,also do you know of any photos. Hope to hear from you soon. Cheers Kay
NatalieDear Kay My Great Great Grandfather was Fritjof Morton and I think it is the same as your Karl Fritjof Mortensen we believe he may have changed his name when he came to Australia, although we do not have any proof but there were records to prove this . when Fritjof came to australia he married kathrine gavan, he had three boys who survived and a girl called ruby who died (bit of a coincidence, with your grandmothers name) fritjof died in melbourne 1934, we do not have any photos that i am aware of but if you would like more information you can contact my grandfather Terry Morton at - mortons@melbpc.org.au
kayDear Nat.Thanks so much for your reply.It must be our man alright,we have been wondering for years where he got to.The stories were really wild and weird.How he went back to Norway and joined the German Army ?. He was also taken by a croc in Australia.? I have been doing our family history now for 2 yrs,and was determined to find Karl, among others. I am heading over to Brisbane next week,to visit my daughter,and would be happy to pass on,copies of Mortensen family history,what I have will really interest you,thats if you don't already have it. I will e-mail your gran-father,and hopfully be able to find out more. You have alot of relations over here,they seemed to be a very productive lot. thanks again talk soon cheers kay
NatalieDear Kay Yes those rumors are a bit wierd! There is also alot of family over here too, and all over Australia, you'll have to ask my grandfather who you can send thse things to, but they would be of great help to piecing all our family history togther. I have only been doing this for a couple of years too, my grandfather was very exited when he heard about you and your realation to us. I have one question though- do you know about the family in Norway (is there any) and who was Karl Fritjofs parents? Thanks heaps, Natalie
kayDear Nat. Yes I do have Karl's parents names. JOHAN FREDRICK MORTENSEN. BORN. 1825 NORWAY DIED. 24/2/ 1886 N.Z. ANNA MARIA MORTENSEN.(nee ALVERSEN) BORN. 1821 NORWAY DIED. 14/10/1893. N.Z. THEY WERE MARRIED IN NORWAY.1849 ? WHILE I WAS IN BRISBANE LAST WEEK I POSTED OFF SOME INFORMATION TO TERRY. HOPE HE RECIEVED IT. I THINK I POSTED OF THE ABOVE . TALK TO YOU SOON CHEERS KAY
NatalieDear Kay Yes my Grandfather got the information you sent, thanx. how far can you trace the family back in Norway? This seems to be the re-ecurring promblem i have been facing, i can't go any further back than Fritjofs parents. I have all the records of them and thier children, but thats it. I t seems to be a bit complicated with their last names as i have many alternatives for Karl Fritjofs mothers last name; Halversen, Halversdatter, Alversen etc However the good new is, you must be my about my half 3rd cousin or something, you are equivelent to my Father in the generations. Nice to finally have found someone related to us, my grandfather was very happy. Talk again soon, Nat
NearNorsewoodHi, Natalie. I am the gGrandaughter of Hans Peter and Oline MORTENSEN. I live about one hour's drive from Norsewood, and went there during the weekend to photograph some of the pioneer graves at Norsewood Cemetery, esp. those of my ancestors (ANDERSEN, Leonhard and Elizabeth (gGrandparents); MORTENSEN, Johann Fredrik and Anna Maria (ggGrandparents); MORTENSEN, Hans Peter and Oline (gGrandparents); FREDERIKSON, Johann Emmanuel and Helena). My *LIVING* grandmother (98 yrs) is daughter of Hans and Oline MORTENSEN. She lived in Norsewood until a few years ago. Our extended family has a huge amount of family tree information. I am hoping to put the Norsewood Cemetery records online with relevant family tree info. My LIVING mother knows of Fritjof Mortensen (I spoke to her yesterday about this). Some of his Australian relatives came to Norsewood looking for information about him. Apparently he was guilty of bigamy - he did not divorse the wife he left in NZ, but remarried in Australia. (I'm not surprised he changed his name!) My mother knows of his family in NZ.
NearNorsewoodAnne Marie MORTENSEN was buried at Norsewood Cemetery. The records name her as Anne Mary. She was known to our family as Anna Maria. Headstone inscription recorded as: Johan Fredrick MORTENSEN died 1886 aged 61, at rest, his beloved wife Anne Mary MORTENSEN died 1893 aged 72, at rest. (I plan to check this by going to the cemetery.)
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi Natalie, Are you sure that Oline was Fredrick's 1st wife? On the Digitalarkivet there is a Fredrik Mortensen, wife Anne Marie and 5 children sailing on the Hovding [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=25353&fulle=true&spraak=e"]Click Here[/url] In the 1865 census they are living in Christiana (Oslo) with 6 children [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60301.wc2&variabel=0&postnr=48910&fulle=true&spraak=n"]Click Here[/url] so Marthe Mathilde either stayed behind, died or possibly married and is sailing under a different name. Carl Fredrik/Fritjof could be your Fritjof. If you have any birth years, maybe you can confirm if this is your family. Also you should see if you can find a death record for Anne Marie or marriage for Fredrik and Oline One of the children's birth record is on the LDS [url="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=29629937&lds=4®ion=12®ionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99"]Click Here[/url] which lists Anne Marie's last name as Halvorsdatter Carla
Marthe Mathilde came to New Zealand via Australia. She was widowed (in Australia?), then married a SOWRY. There is a Martha Matilda SOWRY (38yrs) buried in the Old Gorge Cemetery near Woodville (Woodville is south of Norsewood). The date of death is not recorded, but the funeral date was 28/10/1890 (D/M/Y). Particulars furnished 27/10/1890 by Joseph SOWRY.
NearNorsewood
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Originally posted by Borge
[img]http://www.norwayheritage.com/images/norsewood-pioneers.jpg[/img]

I can supply the names for the above photo which was taken on 20th Sept 1922. BACK ROW: Ole LUND, O.O. NORDBYE, C.A. PETERSEN, E.A. (Edvart ANDERSEN) LARVIG (?? LAURVIG), Emmanuel FREDERIKSEN, Christian CHRISTIANSEN, Knud ANDERSEN. FRONT ROW: Ole JOHANSEN, Mrs (Maren Helena HALVORSDATTER) MANDELL (?? MANDAHL), Mrs Ole GUNDERSEN, Mrs Jens NEILSEN, Mrs Hans OLSEN, Mrs Ole CHRISTOPHERSEN, Mrs Peter LARSEN, Mrs John PETERSEN, Mrs Theodor ANDRERSSON (?? Maren (HANSDATTER) ANDREASEN), Mrs HERBERT, Mrs (Johanne JOHANSDATTER) CHRISTIANSEN. The names recorded in brackets like "(?? NAME)" are corrected spellings of the names recorded in the book "NORSEWOOD, the Centennial Story" by A.L. ANDERSEN (See http://www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz/resources/book-norsewood-centennial.html for book details)
knut storerudDo you know if there where any familys from Grimstad or Landvik who emigrated to New Zealand
NearNorsewoodHi, Knut.
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Do you know if there where any familys from Grimstad or Landvik who emigrated to New Zealand
I cannot find any in the records from the 1872 or 1873 sailings of the Høvding from Kristiania to Napier. Cannot comment on other immigrants.
lolomaredward
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Originally posted by Natalie
Dear Kay Yes my Grandfather got the information you sent, thanx. how far can you trace the family back in Norway? This seems to be the re-ecurring promblem i have been facing, i can't go any further back than Fritjofs parents. I have all the records of them and thier children, but thats it. I t seems to be a bit complicated with their last names as i have many alternatives for Karl Fritjofs mothers last name; Halversen, Halversdatter, Alversen etc However the good new is, you must be my about my half 3rd cousin or something, you are equivelent to my Father in the generations. Nice to finally have found someone related to us, my grandfather was very happy. Talk again soon, Nat
lolomaredwardHi, I am the great granddaughter of Augusta Frederika Mortensen and Frederick William Redward. Augusta's parents were Johan Fredrik & Anne Marie Mortensen. Augusta was the sister of Carl Fritjof Mortensen. The one that took of to Australia and left his wife Julia and kids. My grandfather was their youngest child Francis Huia Redward. I think he died in 1960 at the age of 56 and was buried in Dannevirke. I live in Perth, Western Australia, am 55 years old and didn't know any of you existed until tonight. I was told that my grandfather was illegitimate and that where his history stopped, and it was never spoken of again. Pleased to know that you are all out there and would like to hear from any other family. My husband and I hope to visit Norway at the beginning of next year and would like to find any lost family.[:)] ola <prtemsem
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Originally posted by NearNorsewood
Anne Marie MORTENSEN was buried at Norsewood Cemetery. The records name her as Anne Mary. She was known to our family as Anna Maria. Headstone inscription recorded as: Johan Fredrick MORTENSEN died 1886 aged 61, at rest, his beloved wife Anne Mary MORTENSEN died 1893 aged 72, at rest. (I plan to check this by going to the cemetery.)
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi Natalie, Are you sure that Oline was Fredrick's 1st wife? On the Digitalarkivet there is a Fredrik Mortensen, wife Anne Marie and 5 children sailing on the Hovding [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=25353&fulle=true&spraak=e"]Click Here[/url] In the 1865 census they are living in Christiana (Oslo) with 6 children [url="http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60301.wc2&variabel=0&postnr=48910&fulle=true&spraak=n"]Click Here[/url] so Marthe Mathilde either stayed behind, died or possibly married and is sailing under a different name. Carl Fredrik/Fritjof could be your Fritjof. If you have any birth years, maybe you can confirm if this is your family. Also you should see if you can find a death record for Anne Marie or marriage for Fredrik and Oline One of the children's birth record is on the LDS [url="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=29629937&lds=4®ion=12®ionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99"]Click Here[/url] which lists Anne Marie's last name as Halvorsdatter Carla
Marthe Mathilde came to New Zealand via Australia. She was widowed (in Australia?), then married a SOWRY. There is a Martha Matilda SOWRY (38yrs) buried in the Old Gorge Cemetery near Woodville (Woodville is south of Norsewood). The date of death is not recorded, but the funeral date was 28/10/1890 (D/M/Y). Particulars furnished 27/10/1890 by Joseph SOWRY.
NearNorsewoodHi, Loloma. It was good to get your email. I have been contacted by a distant Norwegian relative - a descendant of Andrea Lovise HAGEN (daughter of Anne Marie MORTENSEN nee HALVORSDATTER) - who lives in Oslo.
lolomaredwardHi and thank for your reply. I would like to contact the distant Norwegian relative in Oslo or she can contact me. Can you arrange that? I would also like to know more about the Frederick William Redward my ggf as I have not been able to find out anything much about him? Would appreciate any help!
cbrightHello to members of this Mortensen and Redward (Norsewood) Forum. Anyone wanting assistance you are most welcome to contact me.
tracydAre any of these Mortensens from the same branch as Tom or Vi Mortensen (Eketahuna/Masterton/Mauriceville area possibly?). My great Grandmother (Grace May Goodgame) was married to a Mortensen who died tragically in a fire apparently. Desperate to find a link somewhere - all help and advice gratefully received
cbrightNo. The Mortensen family from Mauriceville area are Danish not Norwegian. I have sent information direct by E-mail to assist in your research tracyd.