100 passenger lists waiting
BorgeOK here we go, I now have scans of more than 100 passenger lists for Norwegian ships arriving Quebec waiting for volunteers to transcribe them. Anyone feeling like adopting a list?
chrisI can't speak Norwegian but I will be glad to help you in any way I can.
BriningHi Borge, I will give it a try. Hopefully I will have a little more spare time after the kitchen is remodeled.[:D] On a selfish note are any lists from 1868? My Great grandmother came over then and I would love to locate her. If not any year will do. Carla
Borge
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Hi Borge, I will give it a try. Hopefully I will have a little more spare time after the kitchen is remodeled.[:D] On a selfish note are any lists from 1868? My Great grandmother came over then and I would love to locate her. If not any year will do. Carla
Yes, I have all those 1868 lists! Some of them are quite faded and hard to make out, but the majority is nice and clear, check the [url="http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1868"]1868 index[/url] and let me know if there is a particular list you would like to start with.
Borge
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I can't speak Norwegian but I will be glad to help you in any way I can.
There is no need to know Norwegian, and we'll all be around to help if anyone needs any help [:D] I should say that some of the scans are quite big files, so let me know if your e-mail accounts have any limits on the size of attachments.
chrisI use AOL, If you use Aol I can receive up to 16mb. If you use another service I can only receive 2mb total for the whole e-mail. If you can send me the ships that left from Porgrunn and Skien from 1868 to 1870 we can kill 2 birds with one stone. I may find Adolph in the process of transcribing. Thanks
Borge
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I use AOL, If you use Aol I can receive up to 16mb. If you use another service I can only receive 2mb total for the whole e-mail. If you can send me the ships that left from Porgrunn and Skien from 1868 to 1870 we can kill 2 birds with one stone. I may find Adolph in the process of transcribing. Thanks
I'll send you a Skien list, short one to start with. I'll tell you that though - some those Skien and Porsgrund lists are among the hardest ones to do, as many of them are quite faded.
Brining
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi Borge, I will give it a try. Hopefully I will have a little more spare time after the kitchen is remodeled.[:D] On a selfish note are any lists from 1868? My Great grandmother came over then and I would love to locate her. If not any year will do. Carla
Yes, I have all those 1868 lists! Some of them are quite faded and hard to make out, but the majority is nice and clear, check the [url="http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1868"]1868 index[/url] and let me know if there is a particular list you would like to start with.
Hi Borge, It is hard to pick. What I know is that she was from Lesja and so would probably have left from Christiana. She left with 4 children and the story goes that they picked up passengers in Ireland that had Cholera and when she arrived in Minnesota all of her children were dead. Her first child in Minnesota was born in May, 1969 so she was in Minnesota by Sept 1968 so I would guess a July or August arrival. So how about a smaller file leaving from Christiana and arriving in July or August. That way I can get experiance on a small scale and then move on to bigger ones [:D] I don't think I have any size restrictions on my e-mail, just the length of time to receive large files since I am on dial up. Carla
BorgeChris - I could not reach you by the e-mail address you have registered here, could you e-mail me your current address please? - I have some scans ready for you. Let me know what format (application) you want to use for the transcription and I will send you a template.
lailancBørge, I would be happy to help! What applications / formats can I chose from? Laila Lnormann@c2i.net
Borge
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Børge, I would be happy to help! What applications / formats can I chose from? Laila Lnormann@c2i.net
Hi Laila, we can take the following formats: Excel Word Web format (table) Lotus 1-2-3 Quattro Pro dBase Text file We can provide templates for the format you select. Nice having you on the team!
Jo Anne SadlerA little unsolicited advice!! It is a great help to me in transcribing lists to obtain examples of 19th century handwriting. A quick search on Google.com and the Handwriting/Script section on Cyndislist provide various examples. An important one is American Spencerian script that was used in the US until 1925. The ship's captain, crews, harbormasters were from all over the world so German, Swedish, English , etc. handwriting needs to be deciphered and the examples really come in handy. It doesn't take long to get used to the old handwriting.[:p]
Brining
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A little unsolicited advice!! It is a great help to me in transcribing lists to obtain examples of 19th century handwriting. A quick search on Google.com and the Handwriting/Script section on Cyndislist provide various examples. An important one is American Spencerian script that was used in the US until 1925. The ship's captain, crews, harbormasters were from all over the world so German, Swedish, English , etc. handwriting needs to be deciphered and the examples really come in handy. It doesn't take long to get used to the old handwriting.[:p]
You must have been reading my mind Jo Anne. I was just about to ask that question. Thanks for the advice. Carla
lailancBørge, I will use Excel then.. just send me some work... [8D] Laila
JanTheManI would also like to contribute. If I can choose, I would prefer departures from Telemark. The template format should be Excel.
BorgeOk, good people - the response is overwhelming, I'll supply you all with the lists and templates as fast as I can prepare and distribute them. (I need you to send me an e-mail from the forum so that I get your return address, as I can not send attachment from the forum directly) . Please, do read the section about Special signs (the Histform standard) on the topic [url="http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1055"]Transcriptions & Getting started[/url] in the mean time. If you need any help or have any questions do not be afraid to ask on the forum, we are all in this together! [:)]
chrisCould someone post the alphabet in american spencerian. I have looked everywhere on the internet for the complete lower and uppercase alphabet. I can't find anything at the book store either. Thanks
jwiborgMaybe something like the font [url="http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bagraphics/alexandra-script/normal/charmap.html"]Alexandra Script Normal[/url] ....? Jan
Jo Anne SadlerI don't believe Alexandria Script Normal would be the same as Spencerian.[;)] Here is the link I used to get my example of 19th century Spencerian - http://www.sullivanpress.com/Spencerian.htm - I found it by going into Google.com and typed in "19th century handwriting". I found in searching, using "handwriting" as a search word instead of "script" seemed to work better. You can search for other types of handwriting this way. German handwriting, gothic handwriting, etc. I found this information to be very helpful. One of the most dramatic changes in letters has been the letter "s". Over 100 years ago "s" was sometimes written like a backward "f". This was usually used when there was a word with two "ss" and the first "s" was called a leading "s"and the backward "f" was used and the second "s" was printed as we currently use.[xx(] This is hard do explain without illustrations. An example would be the name Jesse, using the leading "s" the name would appear to read Jefse. Also, a good example is the upper case "V" which looks like a upper case "W".
BriningHi Chris Try [url="http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/research/old-hw1.htm"]This Page[/url] it shows different variations of the letters and also shows the "funny" s Jo Anne mentioned. Carla
BorgeHere is a small update on how the transcriptions are going. In the last month we have added 49 new passenger lists, containing more than 4300 emigrants, to the database. Some lists are of the short type, containing only a few emigrants, while the long lists have close to 500 passengers. The database now have a total number of 38742 emigrants , from 322 different lists. There are now about 6-8 of us working with the lists (on and off), and several lists are in progress. If we keep this speed up I probably will have to start looking for a new hobby after Christmas [:p]
BorgeLatest status: 41347 passengers from 335 journeys.
Jo Anne SadlerI have been working on lists from the 1840's but for the transcribers that are working on later lists, I would think crosschecking with the Emigration departure lists (or census) might be of help in verifying hard to read names.[:p]