I don't get the ship stuff!
shilohI really really don't. I read all I could on the site regarding the ship my husband's family left Norway on, and I just don't get it. Here is the story...I am researching Paul Ry (listed as "By" in the digitalarkivet) and his daughter Ella. They left Trondheim 27 Jun 1883 on a ship listed as Dampsk Hero (I assume it means the ship "Hero") from the Cunard Line, traveling to New York. From what I understand from this site (and I am probably completely wrong) is a ship from the Wilson Line probably picked them up, then they sailed from Liverpool on the Hero? It doesn't sound right to me, so I am probably misunderstanding the way this worked. I could not find Paul or Ella on the Ellis Island database, or anything else for that matter. I have been desperately seeking them, but have had no success. I have found previous immigration/naturalization records on ancestors who sailed from Norway, but they've all either landed in Minnesota or Wisconsin where I have direct access to records. I have never dealt with New York as far as immigration records go. Can anyone give me any insight on the situation? I am at a total loss. Thank you!
jwiborgHi, Ellis Island openend on January 1st, 1892, so you won't find any records of him there. He might have landed in Quebec or Boston. Dampsk is short for "Dampskip", i.e. steamer. The steamer Hero brought him from Trondheim to Hull, England, where he probably went by train to Liverpool, and then bordered a trans-atlantic ship who brought him to North America. Other UK-ports would be Glasgow, London or Southampton, but Liverpool is the most likely site. Hero only servered the route Scandinavia - Hull. Jan
thelebrityThe Cunard line ships departed from Liverpool and mostly arrived at Boston or New York. http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_shiplist.asp?co=cunar
thelebrityThe first Cunard ship that Paul and Ella could have been going on from Liverpool was the S/S Cephalonia that left Liverpool july 4., and arrived at Boston july 14. http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=cepha f they weren't great soccer fans they probably went by this one §;c)
caolsson
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Originally posted by shiloh
I really really don't. I read all I could on the site regarding the ship my husband's family left Norway on, and I just don't get it. Here is the story...I am researching Paul Ry (listed as "By" in the digitalarkivet) and his daughter Ella. They left Trondheim 27 Jun 1883 on a ship listed as Dampsk Hero (I assume it means the ship "Hero") from the Cunard Line, traveling to New York. From what I understand from this site (and I am probably completely wrong) is a ship from the Wilson Line probably picked them up, then they sailed from Liverpool on the Hero? It doesn't sound right to me, so I am probably misunderstanding the way this worked. I could not find Paul or Ella on the Ellis Island database, or anything else for that matter. I have been desperately seeking them, but have had no success. I have found previous immigration/naturalization records on ancestors who sailed from Norway, but they've all either landed in Minnesota or Wisconsin where I have direct access to records. I have never dealt with New York as far as immigration records go. Can anyone give me any insight on the situation? I am at a total loss. Thank you!
caolssonWilson line operating Hero and other ships had a commuting service between Norway and Hull (east coast of England). From there passengers were taken by train to Liverpool and by another ship to America. You would have to find a Cunard ship that left Liverpool about a week after the Hero left Norway. Ellis Island didn't open until 1892. Before that passengers disembarked at Castle Garden (lower tip of Manhattan). Many ships during these years sailed to Quebec.
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Originally posted by shiloh
I really really don't. I read all I could on the site regarding the ship my husband's family left Norway on, and I just don't get it. Here is the story...I am researching Paul Ry (listed as "By" in the digitalarkivet) and his daughter Ella. They left Trondheim 27 Jun 1883 on a ship listed as Dampsk Hero (I assume it means the ship "Hero") from the Cunard Line, traveling to New York. From what I understand from this site (and I am probably completely wrong) is a ship from the Wilson Line probably picked them up, then they sailed from Liverpool on the Hero? It doesn't sound right to me, so I am probably misunderstanding the way this worked. I could not find Paul or Ella on the Ellis Island database, or anything else for that matter. I have been desperately seeking them, but have had no success. I have found previous immigration/naturalization records on ancestors who sailed from Norway, but they've all either landed in Minnesota or Wisconsin where I have direct access to records. I have never dealt with New York as far as immigration records go. Can anyone give me any insight on the situation? I am at a total loss. Thank you!
shilohThank you for your replies. What would be my next plan of action? Knowing that they left Norway on the Hero on 27 Jun 1883 and were most likely dropped off in Liverpool a week later, I then assume they hitched a ride on a ship (of the Cunard Line?) that left Liverpool the first week of July? I serached for any ship that left Liverpool that week which looks to be either the S/S Cephalonia or S/S Marathon which both landed in Boston. Now, seeing as how the plan was for them to go to New York (as far as the digitalarkivet goes), do you suspect they landed in Boston then made way to New York by train? So, I guess my question is, do I search Boston immigration records and/or passenger lists of those two ships, or do I search Naturalization records in New York? Again, thank you so much for your help! Shiloh
Jo Anne SadlerDon't know of any Boston immigration records but suggest you check anything you can. Many ships had more than one port they stopped at, first New York and then on to Boston and/or Philadephia. You should check all the records.
thelebrityIf you don't have access to an LDS centre where you live (the mormons have immigration records on microfilm), you can order microfilmed passenger lists from this site: http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/immigrant_arrivals/passenger_records.html