Ole Knudsen fra Leikanger |
James E Heg | I am trying to help a friend trace his Grandmother. Here is what we know: Ole Knudsen married Catherine (or Kathrine) Andersdatter, May 5 1852 in Leikanger. Children: Knud B. 25/03/1853; Britha B.14/10/1855; Anne4 b. 14/03/1858: Marthe b. 19/18/1860; Katrine b. 09/10/1864; Anders B. 16/11/1867.
Film 0123141 Census Norde Bergehus 1865 (film HF 112 books 315-318 Hougens Stolediftrift Lekangers)
Sogn Lekandgers Broeftegield 31 DEC 1865
Ole Knudsen aage 44 Husfasrer Hors und mar jon
Kathrine Andersdatter age 40 huskone
Knudt Olsen age 13 son
Britha olsdatter 11 dau
Anne Olsddatter 8 dau
Marthe Olsdatter 6 dau
Kathrine Olsdatter 1 dau
Now it gets complicated. The family, less Knut (m Gunhild Iversdtr Nov 12, 1872) and Anders (apparently died prior to 1865 census) migrated to America. Date unknown, port of departure unknown, port of arrival unknown. Ole Knudsen died enroute. The mother and 4 little orphans somehow arrive at and settle in Texas. The children were adopted by others. Our person of interest is daughter, Kathrine. New York arrivals yield nothing. Ancestory.com census records yield nothing. Can any information be found in Norway records about emmigration permits, pasenger lists, etc that might help? |
ninakarls | The census record is for a farm named Verken.
Anders apparently made it to America and came home for a visit in 1928:
Bergen 1205 1928 Juli 28 Andrew Olsen Verken m g. Snekker 1867 Leikanger Madison, Wis. U.S.A. Madison, Wis. U.S.A. Nei Besøk her siden 29/5-28 Amerik. borger
But there was an older brother by the same name who died:
9/10 1863 m Anders Olss. Verken b. 1862 died 19 weeks old <sic.>
In 1884 Britha Olsd. b. 1855 Leikanger , Verken married Ole Kristens. b. 1860 Lyngstad
In 1886 Anna Olsd. Verken b. 1858 moved from Leikanger to Jostedalen
Church records of deaths:
6/6 1869 k Kathrine Olsd. Verken (Grinde) hmd b. 1864
7/7 1885 m Ole Knuds. Verken gaardmand b. 1822
19/11 1909 k Katrina Andersd. Verken kaarkone e b. 1826 |
ninakarls | The census record is for a farm named Verken.
Anders apparently made it to America and came home for a visit in 1928:
Bergen 1205 1928 Juli 28 Andrew Olsen Verken m g. Snekker 1867 Leikanger Madison, Wis. U.S.A. Madison, Wis. U.S.A. Nei Besøk her siden 29/5-28 Amerik. borger
But there was an older brother by the same name who died:
9/10 1863 m Anders Olss. Verken b. 1862 died 19 weeks old <sic.>
In 1884 Britha Olsd. b. 1855 Leikanger , Verken married Ole Kristens. b. 1860 Lyngstad
In 1886 Anna Olsd. Verken b. 1858 moved from Leikanger to Jostedalen
Church records of deaths:
6/6 1869 k Kathrine Olsd. Verken (Grinde) hmd b. 1864
7/7 1885 m Ole Knuds. Verken gaardmand b. 1822
19/11 1909 k Katrina Andersd. Verken kaarkone e b. 1826 |
James E Heg | I am going to need more help with this one. Would someone please translate the 3rd line in NinaKarls response so we can understand about Anders return to Norway from Wisconsin?
Also,the church records of deaths seem to contradict the family "folk tale" about the family's migration. The lady we are looking for (Kathrine Olsdatter) seems to have died in Norway on 6/6/1869. The birth date checks with the records with which we started. It appears that the father, Ole Knudsen, also died in Norway. (Birthdate checks within a year.) The mother, who supposedly brought the family to America also appears to have died in Norway. The data I submitted matches Nina's response but does not seem to be a family that migrated, except for Anders (#2)[:(] Jim |
James E Heg | For Jo Anne - I would appreciate your views on this posting and the replies. Jim |
Brining | Hi Jim This family doesn't look too promising.
Anders was home for 2 visits, [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIBERG&variabel=0&postnr=62939&fulle=true&spraak=e"]1908[/url] and [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIBERG&variabel=0&postnr=105475&fulle=true&spraak=e"]1928[/url]
the comments read
Været hjemme paa et kort besøg Been at home at a short visit
and Besøk her siden 29/5-28 Visits here since 29/5-28
Katrine is living with Knud in the 1900 census [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f01419.wc2&variabel=0&postnr=34&fulle=true&spraak=n"]Click Here[/url] and Knud is married to Gjertrud Rasmusdatter although this could be a second marriage
According to the 1910 US Wisconsin census Andrew emigrated in 1890. He has been married 17 years, his wife is from Wisc. so it doesn't look like he emigrated to Texas and he would have been an adult when he came.
Carla |
Jo Anne Sadler | The 1928 information is from the Bergen emigration register, can't make the link work.
Snekker means - cabinetmaker, carpentry, building.
Under "Reason" - Nei Besøk her siden is confusing - No visit here since 29/5/28. This is a future date. The 1908 listing shows him leaving on February 18, an odd time of year to visit. [:0]
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ninakarls | I made a look-up and found this family in the farm- and family history of Leikanger. No indication of emigration. Maybe we should try from scratch? Why do you think the family in the census is the right one? |