Hi-Have a question about the town in Norway some of our ancestors might of came from...all i know is it has to do with the fishing industry and is large. My ancestors(Iverson)came from there and i think on the Christiania. Knowing this might help find out more about them. Thanks">
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iverskat Hi-Have a question about the town in Norway some of our ancestors might of came from...all i know is it has to do with the fishing industry and is large. My ancestors(Iverson)came from there and i think on the Christiania. Knowing this might help find out more about them. Thanks
kerrieYou will have to supply more information for someone to help you. Names of your ancestors and approximate dates of birth will help then someone can check the census in Norway. Do you know when they arrived in America?
askeroiThe needle in the haystack? Or only the needle? There aren't many "large" towns in Norway - by any standard. Unless your angle is a small farm in a valley or by the coast. But there are lots of towns along the coast build up on fishing industry. But if you give us some names and dates - maybe we can find the ones you are looking for in the cencus' 1801, 1865 or 1900 and thereby find the town you're searching for...
iverskatwe are looking ar the 1801 cencus if we can-names:Iver Iverson and something like Johnsburg or Johanasburg
HopkinsWhy not share the names and vital dates of the persons you are looking for? any other clues you are holding secret too... Some of us have a great deal more experience in searching those databases and making them "perform".
iverskatsorry, this is harder than i thought...i have two names besides Iver Iverson..Ira Kimber-born November 14th,1859 and aNicolay M Klingenberg born March17,1873(died 1939).Finding this was great to me, but i would still like to know where someone came from originally. thanks
askeroiHm. Strange. Iver Ivarson and Nicolai Klingenberg could very well be norwegian names. But Ira Kimber and Johanesburg does not - it sounds more like South Africa to me. But at FS I find an Ira F Kimber born ca. 1860 who could fit: Ira F. KIMBER Household Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Information: Birth Year <1860> Birthplace MN Age 20 Occupation Working On Farm At Home Marital Status S <Single> Race W <White> Head of Household William KIMBER Relation Son Father's Birthplace NY Mother's Birthplace NY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Hesper, Winneshiek, Iowa And a Nicolai Klingenberg died in Larvik in 1838: http://www.rhd.uit.no/skifter/sk_56.html This could be family. And Larvik is a possible town like the one you are looking for. But there's no Klingenbergs there in 1865. And the Klingenberg family can be traced back to the 16/17th century Trondheim. And that is a 'large' town by norwegian standards - in fact it was the capitol of Norway in the middle ages and also the religious centre of all the northern part of the then known world (Norway, Iceland, Greenland etc.) Unfortunately there's no Nicolai in the 1875 nor 1900 cencus in Norway. But there is an Iver Iverson in Trondheim in 1801: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f11601&variabel=0&postnr=8521&fulle=true&spraak=n if yours can be born around 1794, but none in 1865... At least here's some clues while you're looking up more information ...
iverskatthanks you askeroi-and i am getting to the conclusion they all settled in Iowa :) ---but i will keep your findings on record too and some day maybe see what place my G G G G Granddad came from....ty
BriningIn the 1910 US Census KLINGENBERG NICOLY 37 M W NORW IA WINNESHIEK DECORAH TWP Parents Norwegian immigration year 1892 Nothing pops out in the passenger lists on the Digitalarkivet so he probably traveled using his patronym. Have you gotten copies of his death certificate, marriage license, naturalization papers? Finding his fathers name would help a lot in locating him in Norway Carla
iverskatDecorah is where they settled-and where my parents were both born..we are seeing about his fathers name now. I have found out my mothers father came from Stavager,Norway on the Baltic in 1908.
askeroiDear Kathie Please remember that we who try to help, see loads of questions every day. You can't expect us to remember the name and birth year of your mother's father when he suddenly (re?)appear like this. And it's a waste of our time to make us look it up - again. PLEASE GIVE releavant information simultaniously with asking....
iverskatsorry, i wasn't asking you to look up anything-just am gald to have found that out and expressed it.
askeroiI appologise - to me it looked like you gave a new info about your mother's father and wanted to know more about him. Sorry - english isn't my native language...[:o)]
iverskatWELL, THIS IS ALL I HAVE:IVER IVERSON MARRIED KARI SWENSON(HALVORDSDATTER) IN WISCONSIN IN 1869 KARI'S FATHER WAS HALVORD SWENSON, AND WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HALVORDS WIFES NAME WAS AS WELL.
HopkinsSo WHO came over on the Baltic from Stavanger 1908? Who are Ira Kimber and Nicolay M Klingenberg? How do they relate to the Iverson family? If Iver Iverson married KARI SWENSON(HALVORDSDATTER) in Wisconsin in 1969 are they the persons you say settled in the Decorah Iowa area? What time period did they live in the Decorah Iowa area? Which censuses do they appear living there? Someone came from an undetermined fishing area of Norway (Johnsburg?) - left on a ship called the Christiania? WHO? What year? You are looking at the 1801 Norwegian census - for WHO? you have someone in particular born before 1801 in Norway that you have a name to search for? What Decorah area, Iowa records have you already searched? Censuses? church records? vital records? obituaries? cemetery lists? The 1925 Iowa State census had an entry for the name (including maiden name) of every persons mother....
jwiborgHi, just a note about the "norwegian" town of "Johnsburg..., could it be Tønsberg? It's quite a large city on the southern coast of Norway (it's the "capital" of Vestfold county), and has a long fishing history. It's also the oldest town in Norway, founded year 871... Jan
iverskatI FOUND IT FINALLY-LYSE FJORD,nr.STAVANGER, and CHRISTENING WAS IN ROGALAND,NORWAY ,WHERE JUST ABOUT ALL THE REST WERE AT......THANKS ALL FOR ANY HELP
HopkinsLyse fjord - or more properly Lysefjorden is located in Forsand district of Rogaland, Norway. In previous years the parish church records for that area have been kept with the records of Strand and/or Høle, and also kept under the names Høgsfjord and Fossan. The area's history and genealogy of the various farm families is documented in a published bygdebøker multi-volume set by the title of 'Forsandboka' (nice books with plenty of photographs). I've briefly checked and can't find any location in the Forsand district which reminds me of Johnsburg, one of the locations you said you were looking for. The city of Stavanger is also in Rogaland but is west of Forsand.
iverskatCAN I PURCAHSE THE SET OF BOOKS? WE ARE WAITING FOR SOME PAPERS FROM AN AUNT TO MAYBE GET HAVE MORE TO LOOK AT.
askeroiI've given up helping here. For each new posting I'm more confused. I've tried once, Hopkins have tried twice - but still we're not told who's born where and when. Who are we looking for in Lysefjord? WHO came over on the Baltic from Stavanger 1908? Who are Ira Kimber and Nicolay M Klingenberg? How do they relate to the Iverson family? and so on. Please straighten up. [:p]
HopkinsI found the books through a used book store in Norway. They were published in the 1980's and I think they'd be classified now as "out of print". The US Library of Congress and the Family History Library in Salt Lake City also have copies that I've used. Exactly WHO is it that you expect to find in Lysefjorden? When were they born? Do you know which of the Lysefjorden farms they lived on? You've said that you found someone in the Lysefjorden area -- in a census? if so, which one? can you provide the URL link for that finding? I'll check in my books - but ONLY if you will clearly identify WHO!!
iverskatI FOUND QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THERE IN LYSEFJORDEN,ROGALAND,NORWAY FIRST GREAT GRANDFATHER ,IVER IVERSON, CHRISTENED NOV. 24,1844 AND HIS FATHER IVER OLSEN. FUNNY HOW SOME IF THEM HAD DIFFERNT LAST NAMES. IVER OLSEN'S FATHER WAS OLA/OLE IVARSEN. SO, I HAVE GOT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR...THANK YOU. THAT JOHANSBURG I THINK IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY-MOTHERS SIDE, SORRY JUST GOT ALIITTLE CONFUSED THERE.
HopkinsDo you have any record of the name of the farm or town in the Lysefjorden area where Iver Iverson and his father Iver Olson lived? Or even of the grandfather Ole Ivarson? Those names are absolutely what we'd expect to see in Norway during that time period. They used the patronymic naming system - you were identified as 'father's' son -- putting the first name of the father in the spot that I surrounded with single quotes.
iverskatHOPKINS, I HAVE NAMES-ANOTHER G-GRANDFATHERS NAME IS RASMUS OLSON OF HAAHELLER AND HIS FATHERS IS OLE NILSSON OF EIKESKOG . SO IS HAAHELLER A TOWN THEN? I HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT FOR IVER THO. SO ,YOU ASKED FOR ANY RECORD- THAT IS ALL I HAVE. I HAVE THE NAMES OF THE G-GRANDFATHERS BACK TO1475.(each time i got the name it had his fathers name so i clicked on it..and so on).
HopkinsNow, THAT's some information that I can work with! Håheller (sometimes spelled as Haaheller) and Eikeskog are farm names. I called them possible towns because so many emigrants' descendants were told they were town names, and they sometimes insist that's what they are looking for. Håheller farm along the steep edge of the Lysefjorden wasn't very large ... Yes, Rasmus Olson lived on Håheller from about 1713 to 1758. His birthdate is not known definitely but is estimated at about 1686 and he died in 1762. In 1713 he married Ingeborg Ljødesdotter from Lille Nerabø/Øygarden farms (also in Forsand area). This was Ingeborg's second marriage. She had previously been married to Tore Halvarson of Håheller farm. I believe Eikskog is actually just outside of the Forsand district and near a fjord to the south and southeast of the Lysefjorden called Frafjorden - which I currently believe is/was in the district known as Gjesdal in Rogaland. I haven't yet worked on that area very much. This is now amusing - Rasmus Olson Håheller and Ingeborg Ljødesdatter are also direct ancestors of my own (6th great-grandparents). They did have about 8 children who survived to adulthood, my tie to them is their daughter, Eli Rasmusdotter who married Kristoffer Ivarson Lyse in 1758. Now I have learned what I wanted to know too! My curiousity is satisfied. Thank you for giving out those additional names.
iverskatHOW NEAT IS THAT-SO YOU ARE LOOKING UP FAMILY, I THOUGHT YOU DID THIS FOR A PAST TIME. FUN ISN'T IT. GOOD LUCK TO YOU...
vonKathie. my grandfather was Ole Iverson Lyse. His father was Iver Olsen Lyse. He was in Wisconsin, but came to Minnesota by wagon train.
HopkinsThere was an Ivar Olson Lyse (b. about 1814) who is known to have emigrated to America. Information published in Forsand, Rogaland, Norway makes a note they think he was known as Iver Lecy after he emigrated. He had quite a number of children... Kristi, Ole, Kristina, Johan, Kristina, etc.... Without some sort of vital life dates to identify your grandfather and great-grandfather I have no hope to find them or to help provide any information about the family.