One Quick Question- Rund Farm
chefmegan101Hey I have a quick question about farms in Norway- My ancestor Bjorn Trulsen Rund and his siblings came from Sigdal Parish, in Buskerud in 1879. I believe when I looked at the digitalarkivet that it said Rundskkoven - Is that the farm that they came from? Is that where my last name originated from? Is there more than one family that owned and worked on the same farm? What would they probably have farmed? It's kind of a little confusing...... Thanks Alot Megan
askeroiI can't find anyting in the 1900 cencus called Rundskoven or anything like it. Thereby I assume it was a husmannsplass. And if you say it was in Sigdal parish, I buy that and assume it was a husmannsplass (NOT a farm) under Rund in Sigdal, Buskerud. Rundskoven is old norwegian for "the woods at Rund"...
HopkinsThat was interesting... Rundsskoven is the the name of the school district in Sigdal,Buskerud 1865. The name of the farm was actually "Rund væstre". (West Rund?) I'll try to capture the detail URL in the Digitalarkivet website -- http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60621&gardpostnr=1037&personpostnr=5758#a0 but when in doubt here's the same census from the RHD website - http://www.rhd.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&spraak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0621&kretsnr=0013&bostnr=0013&leilnr=000 Do URL captures from the new Digitalarkivet webpages actually work? Forgive me while I try to find out...
HopkinsMegan - Yes, Rund was probably the base of the name of the farm - there might have been farms 'sub-divided' through many many years of history from the original farm probably 'Rund'. These could have been called East Rund, West Rund, South Rund, West Rund, Inner Rund, Outer Rund, Upper Rund, Lower Rund (I use English examples.) There may have been many different families that lived on the Rund land and every single one of them was able to choose to identify themselves with "Rund" as part of the identifier/address. Many that lived there may never have owned the land but still been perfectly entitled to identify themselves as residents of that farm - after all it was their address! Your question has no quick and easy answer - much depends upon the time period and the area... Sigdal in Buskerud is one of the parts of Norway that has been included in a bygdebøk (local history and usually local genealogy of the residents). These books are published in Norway (naturally in the Norwegian language) but with some work (and a good Norwegian-English dictionary) you may find it to be a great resource of information - "Sigdal og Eggedal", 1 vol by Thormod Skatvedt; same series continued 4 volumes by Andres Mørch.
jwiborgHi Megan, the norwegian landregister for 1886 shows that the farm name (in 1886) is written Runn. "Your" farm has land number 200 and title number 6 and is at that time owned by Bjørn's mother, widow Ingeborg Gulsdatter. There are a total of 7 farms called Runn in Krødsherred, Sigdal, Buskerud in 1886, and your farm looks to be one of the 6 smallholdings under the main Runn farm. The farmname is also called Runn is the norwegian landregister for 1950. Rundskoven is the schooldistrict as Hopkins said. In 1900 the farmname is spelled Rund again, and Bjørns oldest (?) brother Kolbjørn Trulsen Rund is the owner of the farm: [url="http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f00621&gardpostnr=785&personpostnr=785#a0"]click here[/url] His mother Ingeborg Gulsdatter is still there. The other married couple living there is Kolbjørns ( and prob. Marte's) daughter and son in law. The 1900 census tells us a lot of what they produced. Kolbjørn T. Rund had: grain and potatoes:yes , cattle:yes , fowl:yes , beehives:no, orchard:yes. This could be a production for their own household only. Jan
hastoThe farm name have the same root as the English word run. It means the trees (bush) that run up where trees have been cut down (or in open land). It would usually be deciduous wood. (Source: O. Rygh) The 1865 census tells what they had on the farm: 1 horse, 7 cattle, 12 sheep, 1 pig, rye, barley, oat, peas, potatoes, - most oat and potatoes. Truls was a self-owner, and had an independant one family unit, with job also for his two grown-up sons.
chefmegan101Thanks guys, that's a lot of help. I'm always impressed with the amount of knowledge that you all have. Thanks