Other Andreassen & Blomqvist's?
Norway2WisconsinGreetings from Minnesota. Through the information available here I was able to discover the name of the ship that my Andreassen ancestors came to America in 1867. THANK YOU!! The Andreassen's were from the Kolvereid parish which was north of Namsos.The oldest brother of Christian Andreassen, Johan Andreassen, inherited the farm of Prestvik back in 1856. The Blomqvist's I have traced back to 1865 and at that time were in the Mo area. They lived in the Nesna area until immigrating to America in 1903. The families settled in the Baldwin & Woodville towns of Wisconsin. My question is this, how might I go about trying to contact some people in Norway that would be able to assist me in seeing if any relatives exist? I had discovered that the "white pages" for the areas in Norway also listed some email addresses. I wrote to several people that had their email addresses listed, but no one responded... Your help is greatly appreciated!! [:)]
Odd HansenHello ! I have looked for your Andreassens in Kolvereid, there are 28 of them and one named Johan, he was a fisherman. In Nærø there was 6 Andreassen, 2 of them named Christian one 38 and the other 25 both in the 1865 census, both married. Its very likely that all this Andreassens are raleted one way or the other. Do you have more info age, children aso ? Best wishes Odd Hansen
Odd HansenHello again ! If all the Blomqvists emigrated from Nesna it would be difficult to find some relatives in Norway, they were most likely Swedes,who first tried their luck here in Norway, before living for the USA. Give me some names, year of birth, so I will have a look. All the best Odd Hansen
Norway2WisconsinThank you for responding to my request. My wife & I are excited!! We have been doing family research for the 31 years that we have been married and we really enjoy it. As for my Andreassen side of the family, I have a starting date of 1795 when Christian Andreassen's father, Andreas Haagensen Soraaunet of Naeroy was born. Andreas drown at sea on August 16th 1856. His body was found on October 4th, and he was buried on November 2nd in the Kolvereid parish cemetery. Christian's mother was Ellen Iversdtr Prestvik. She was born in 1810, married July 10,1828 in the Kolvereid church. I have no record of her death. They had 8 children: Karen Maria Andreassen Prestvik - born 9/20/1829 Johan Hartvig Andreassen Prestvik - born 11/22/1830 (inherited Prestvik farm) Haagen Andressen Prestvik - born 3/11/1833 Elen Kirstine Andreassen Prestvik - born 7/21/1835 Christian Andreassen Prestvik - born 4/11/1841 - my Great Great Grandfather Andreas Edvard Andreassen Prestvik - born 2/12/1844 Catherine Andreassen Prestvik - born 1/3/1847 - married 11/29/1871 - immigrated to America Peter Kristian Andreassen Prestvik - born 8/10/1849 - - immigrated to America On August 1, 1863, Ellen Iversdtr, widow, married Peder Pedersen Sandnesenget of Naeroy. He was 55 and she was 53. They continued to live at Prestvik. The 1865 information that I have shows that Johan Andreassen (age 36) and his wife Stina Iverstdtr (age 35) had 3 sons. Anton Johansen age 7 years, Johan Johansen age 5, and Magnus Johansen age 2. All were born at Kolvereid. Also shown was Katrine Andreasdtr age 19, and Peter J. Pedersen, Peder's son age 11. Christians wife was Hanna Julianna Hansdtr. Her parents were Hans Hansen Ottersoy born 1793 and her mother, Kirstine Hansdtr Garmannvik born 1801. They were married 12/28/1825 in Naeroy. They had 5 children: Hans Hansen - born 10/10/1825 - Naeroy -Perished at sea Petter Andreas Hansen - born 2/13/1829 - Naeroy - Perished at sea Bereth Maria Hansdtr - born 10/16/1831 - Naeroy Henrik Hansen - born 9/16/1836 - died 10/5/1836 Hanna Julianna Hansdtr - born 4/11/1849 - married 6/23/1865 - died 2/3/1933 in Wisconsin I appreciate your help in finding if I have any Andreassen or Johansen relatives alive today. One question for you, in what year was it decided that the families keep their last name the same instead of becoming the "son" or "dtr" of the fathers first name? It has made it interesting and challenging at times to connect everyone. Thank you again!! Miles Van Dyke
Odd HansenHello ! Here are the family from the 1801-census. Here we see that Haagen Olssen is 55 years old so he must be born about 1756. His wife is 40 and arond 1761 should be her day of birth. 672 Haagen Olssen Huusbonde 55 Begge i 1ste ægteskab Bonde og gaardbruger M 673 Elen Caspersd Hans kone 40 Begge i 1ste ægteskab K 674 Ole Haagensen Deres børn 21 Ugivt M 675 Casper Haagensen Deres børn 14 M 676 Hans Haagensen Deres børn 8 M 677 Andreas Haagensen Deres børn 6 M 678 Elisabeth Haagensd Deres børn 17 K 679 Christina Haagensd Deres børn 9 K 680 Seriana Haagensd Deres børn 4 K 681 Maria Haagensd Deres børn 3 Here is Haagen, Johans brother working on Øiehals farm in the 1865 census. He is 32 and not married 1865-telling for 1751 Nærø Nærø Øiehals 276 1 Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Fam. stilling Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødestad Stort kveg Får Geit Svin Bygg Havre Poteter 959 5 1 Karen Stefensd. Bygselkone e 68 k Kolvereid Prgj. Peternille Nielsd. hendes Datter Moderen behjælpelig ug 27 961 7 Caroline Taraldsd. Tjenestepige ug 19 k Nærø Prgj. 962 8 Haagen Andreass. Tjenestedreng ug 32 m Kolvereid 963 9 Nicolai Hans. Pleiesøn ug 14 m Nærø Prgj. 964 10 1 Johan Ols. Inderst Fisker g 31 m Skogns Prgj. 965 11 Nicoline Nielsd. hans Kone g 30 k Nærø Prgj. 966 12 Niels Johans. deres Søn ug 3 m Nærø Prgj. more later Both Andreassen and Johansen are very common names here so it will be difficult., but we will see. There was not a decission to change the system of the names as far as I know it was a process which started around 1850 and ended about 1900 at least so in my family I am looking for a couple of persons in my family, could you help me as well, in USA that is ? Best wishes Odd
Odd HansenHello again ! Here are Johans brother Christian working at Ottersø farm in 1865. 809 26 Christian Andreass. Tjenestedreng g 25 m Kolvereid 810 27 Julianna Hansd. hans Kone g 26 k Nærø Prgj. 811 28 Petra Christiansd. deres Datter ug 1 k Nærø Prgj. Here A brother Andreas and siser Katerine still living by the parents. Note thar Peter have name after his mothers husbods name he is a Pedersen not Andreassen ? 1865-telling for 1752 Kolvereid Distriktsnr. Side Skuledistrikt Sokn Prestegjeld Gard Overskrift 186 2 211 2det og 3die Foldereid Kolvereid Præstvig* 1 Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Fam. stilling Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødestad 1428 3 1 Peder Peders. Husfader Føderaadsmand g 57 m Kolvereids 1429 4 Elen Iversd. hans Kone g 54 k Kolvereids Prgj. 1430 5 Katrine Andreasd. hendes Datter ug 19 k Kolvereids P 1431 6 Peter J. Peders. hans Søn ug 11 m Kolvereids Prgj. Here their sister Elen, at least I think so but note that the midlename is Anna in stead of Kirstine ? What du you think ? 55 1 185 1ste Foldereid Kolvereid Kongsmo 165 2 Personnr. Hushald Førenamn Etternamn Fam. stilling Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødestad Hestar Stort kveg Får Geit Svin Bygg Havre Poteter 432 15 1 Olaus Johns. Husfader Gbr. og Selveier g 33 m Kolvereids Prgj. 2 10 15 2 1 1 1/2 4 6 433 16 Elen Anna Andreasd. hans Kone g 31 k Kolvereids Prgj. 434 17 Jacob Marthin Olauss.* deres Søn ug 7 m Kolvereids Prgj. 435 18 Andreas Olaus. deres Søn ug 4 m Kolvereids Prgj. 436 19 Christine Olausd. deres Datter ug 9 k Kolvereids Prgj. 437 20 Johanna Olausd. deres Datter ug 2 k Kolvereids Prgj. Best wishes Odd Hansen
Odd HansenHello again ! Here comes the first person who might gives us a relative or two, Signe is only 3 years in the 1900 census, so there is a chance that her children have made some relatives that still lives. The Prestvik farm is still owned by the family. 1900-telling for 1752 Kolvereid Personliste Herad Krets Gardnr Bruksnr. Gard Uthus Tal pers. Pers. tilstades Pers. heimehøyrande Korn, potet Kreatur Fjærkre Bikubar Kjøkkenhage Frukthage 172 13 Kolvereid 3 29 1, 3 Prestvik (gaard) n 3 3 3 j j j n n n Hushald nr. Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Busett Fam. stilling Sivilstand Yrke Fødd år Fødestad Nasjonalitet Trussamf. 1109 1 Johan Johanness. m b hf g Gårdbruger S og fisker 1859 t n s 1110 Maren Hansd. k b hm g Gårdmandskone 1856 t n s 1111 Signe Johansd. k b d ug 1897 t n s Digitalarkivet Johans brothers I have not found yet, must have to do with all the varation of the name or they have died. Thats all for now, Odd
Norway2WisconsinDear Odd, Thank you again for helping us with this search. You've given me so much information that it will take a little time to piece it all together. This is truly exciting to be able to trace my ancestors so far back in time. We were very fortunate to have traveled to Salt Lake City, Utah a couple of times and I was able to view a microfilm that showed my ancestors and the ship, the Victor, that brought them across the Atlantic Ocean back in 1867 to Quebec Canada. I would be honored to help you do some research for your relatives that are here in the USA as well. Let me know what you need. As for my Blomqvist side of the family, my Grandmother often times told me a story about how an ancestor of our was "way up in Mo i Rana" and was found to be barefoot when he met a young lady that later became his wife. His name was Nils Blomqvist. My Grandmother often wondered if maybe he had left Sweden in hopes of not having to serve in the Army. ( ? ) His name on the 1875 census for the Nord-Rana area at the domicile of Overdal has his name listed as Niels Peder Blomqvist, born 1839 in Sverig It also shows his wife is Gjertrud Jacobsdatter, born 1849 in Nord-Rana, ( 1900 census lists her birth place as Hemnes Norway), and their daughter Elen Johanna Nielsdatter, born 1875 in Nord-Rana. ( my Grandmothers mother ) Also listed on that census is Gjertrud's parents, Jacob Jacobssen, Elen Pedersdatter, and their son, Jacob Jacobsen. The 1900 census shows them in the municipality of Nesna at the domicle of Refsnes. Is domicle the Norwegian word for farm? Also shown in 1900 is that the Blomqvist family had grown, and most of the children were born in Nesna. Having checked the "white pages" listings for the Nesna & surrounding areas, I was amazed at how common the Blomqvist name is today. The name was changed to Blomquist here in America, and Nils became Nels. It was by chance that I happened to discover the Norwegian Historical Data Center while visiting in Salt lake City & it has been a wealth of information! Many of the stories that my grandmother had told to me since I was a young boy have come together with what I discovered there. Grandma had mentioned how Nils was a "blacksmith" in Wisconsin. Tracing back through the NHDC I found that in the 1875 census he was listed as a Kobberslager ( copper smith I was told ) and the 1900 census shows that he was a Blikkenslager ( is that a silver smith? ) Stories were told about how the men would travel up to the Lofuten islands to fish during the summer. I am very fortunate to know some of the history of my Norwegian & Swedish ancestors and very proud to be a descendant of them. I have a goal for Christmas... I have many pictures, NHDC information, Ellis Island information, etc that I have collected through the years. I plan to put all of this on a Power Point presentation and then record this on DVD as I explain about my ancestors and all that I have collected. These CD's & DVD's I'll give to all of my relatives so that they can know where we came from and they in turn can pass this information down to future generations. Each day that passes gets closer to Christmas!! But I'll get it down.... if not, maybe by New Years!! .... or Easter..... :) Thanks again Odd, I sincerely appreciate all of your help!! PS: Do you live near the Nesna or Mo i Rana areas? I am about an hour north of Minneapolis/St. Paul in Minnesota
Odd HansenHello ! Here I found Anton as well, he has also 2 children. 1900-telling for 1751 Nærø . 2163 1 Anton Johans. m b hf g gårdbruger, selveier og sjøfart 1859 Kolvereid NT n s 2164 Anna Johannesd. k b hm g gårdmandskone, husgjerning 1855 Kolvereid NT n s 2165 Jens Antons. m b s ug søn (intet erverv) 1890 t n s 2166 Amanda Antonsd. k b d ug datter (intet erverv) 1892 t I will take a look at the Blomquists later on, consentrating on the other family first. So far Johan and his family are the most certain track to follow, Cathrine and Peter emigrated so if they have children they are in the USA, Haagen seems to be a loner without children. Karin and Elen must be tracked down, they might have a lot of children as well. Magnus I cant find at this stage. When my familimembers in the US concern , I have a such for them here as wel,l they are under the label Karl Vilhelm Hansen. I hope you find something, good luck. As you see I have found that he most likely was in Pennsylvania up to 1936 when the started with the Social Security Cards, his was issued there. I suspect that also other familymembers was situated nearby, he was only 18 when he came over so obviously he must have have stayed by relatives in the beginning. Thanks for helping out. Best wishes Odd
ObelixHello! Blikkenslager - My dictionary uses the word tinsmith on that occupation. The norwegian word for silversmith are rarely used as it goes along with goldsmith as "gullsmed"
Odd HansenHello ! I could not find more about Johansen/ Andreassen or my own family so I looked for the Blomquists. Here I found Nils and family in the 1900 census 1900-telling for 1828 Næsne 2381 1 Nils Blomqvist m b Hf g Husmand Jordbrugende og Blikkenslager 1840 Borgevik i Sverige N S 2382 Gjertrud Blomqvist k b Hm g Husmandskone. Husgj. og Kreaturstel 1849 Hemnes Nor N S 2383 Hans Nilsen m b S ug Dagarbeider. Jordarbeider 1882 T 2384 Arvid Nilsen m b S ug Dagarbeider. Jordarbeider 1884 2385 Andrea Nilsdatter k b D ug Datter 1886 T N S 2386 Gjertrud Nilsdatter k b D ug Datter 1891 T N S Here are another Blomqvist from the same area, I do not know if it is family 2370 Elen Blomqvist k b Tj ug Tjenestepige Husgjerning 1875 Mo i Helgeland Nor N Here the 1875 census, here we find Elen again, here you see an exampel of this change of names. Elen goes from being a Nielsdtr to Blomqvist during the periode 1875 to 1900 2915 16 1 Niels Peder Blomqvist m hf g Inderst, Kobberslager og Fisker 1839 Sverig b 2916 17 Gjertrud Jacobsdatter k hans Kone g 1849 Nord-Rana b 2917 18 Elen Johanna Nielsdatter k d 1875 Nord-Rana b In the 1865 census I did not find the family. No, I am from Trondheim, it is not to far to Kolvereid roughly 250 km, up to Mo i Rana is about 2 days with the car it is possible in 1 day but nor to be recommanded. Domicite = the place you live in your home so to speak, it could be anything from a very small Cottage/cabin to self owned farms. Odd
Norway2WisconsinOdd, Thank you once again for helping with this research!! I had to share all of the information that you had given me with everyone at work today. They were amazed that I now have a list of ancestors that can be traced back to 1756!! They are my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandparents!! I have some questions about the words that you had sent. For the 1801 census is lists Haagen Olssen with the words of Begge, 1ste aegteskab Bonde og gaardbruger M. What does that mean? For Ole Haagensen is shows: Deres born 21 Ugivt M. What does that mean? As for the other children, I see a number with the letter of M or K. I assume that M is for male & K is for female? I see further down the words of Kolvereid Prgj and Skogns Prgj. What does the Prgj mean? It was funny to have you write and say that the Andreassen and Johansen names are very common there. That is true here where we live in Minnesota as well. My wife and I had gone to vote a couple of years ago in town for the school board election. We had assumed that there was only a single line for everyone to vote. As the line slowly moved forward I realized that in fact there were 2 lines. One sign hung from the ceiling indicating that it was for people with the last name that was A through L. The 2nd line was for those with the letters of M through Z. That line was empty!! We immediately stepped over to the correct line and and went to the front to vote. I had laughed at having made the mistake and not realizing it. A guy next to me laughed also and said that most everyones name in the area is either Anderson or Johnson!! You had a question about Peter J. Pedersen not having the Andreassen last name. He was the son of Peder Pederson, and Peder had re-married Ellen Iversdtr who was widowed when her husband had drown at sea in 1856. Another question for you, would there be tombstones made of stone from the 1856 time, or would they have been made of wood? I'm curious to see what might still be there to view. We do someday hope to travel to Norway and Sweden and see where our ancestors had lived. My grandmother had saved a newspaper article from the mid 1960's that had mentioned the area of Mo i Rana. The writer of the article had said that the area was very harsh and he could not understand how anyone could have survived living there. I had heard that those who lived in the area many years ago were somewhat of a nomadic type people that lived and traveled with the herds of caribou or reindeer. Do you suppose that my Swedish Blomqvist ancestors have been like that having been "way up in Mo i Rana" as my grandmother had always said? Thank you for sharing where you live in Norway too. I've enjoyed finding pictures of the many beautiful fjords and mountains that exist in Norway. Feel free to send pictures to our email address any time if you'd like. Our daylight has grown very short here, and most time is spent indoors. A picture of a beautiful sunrise or sunset would warm our spirits here. :) Thank you again Odd!! Miles
Norway2WisconsinObelix, ( Magne ), thank you for your help in translating what the words mean. I am learning so many things in such a short time.... this is soooooo cool!! ( that's an old 70's term from my teenage years) Are you located in Nesne area? A cousin's daughter was able to travel to Nesna a few years ago and I am fortunate to have received a picture of the church there. It is so beautiful. I had the honor of returning a postcard to her father that he had sent to my grandmother from Nesna back in 1965. My grandmother had enjoyed it for nearly 40 years and would always comment about it when I would visit her. I knew that he would be thrilled to get it back, and he was. Feel free to share what ever information that you have about yourself & beautiful Norway. Thank you, Miles
Norway2WisconsinOdd, I have a picture of my Blomqvist ancestors that was taken in Trondhjem I believe shortly before they had departed for America. The name of the Photographers business on the bottom of the picture is Olsen & Wikborg. Would that name still exist today or the area where the business had been located? Miles
Odd HansenHello again ! Bonde og gardbruker =farmer Aekteskap = marrige Prgj = which church they belonged to, Norway is/was diveded into areas that belong to a church in addition to the parish. Ugivt = not married Begge !.aekteskap= ! marriage for both of them I have found a little about Haagen Olsen (Ole Haagensens father) in a book. he came from Grong married Elen Catrine Wullf and got 13 children. Wullf sounds german to me, not a norwegian name if you ask me. Haagen was born 1752 accourding to this new info.I have made copies for you so I need your adress if you want them. I also found Johan Andreassen with 9 children so some more have seen the ligth of day. I also found both Karen and Elen with husbands. Yes, our "indians " had/have a tradition to move around with the reindeers, but not the Hansens,Johansens, Blomqvists aso, they usually did a combined farm/fishing activity, in fact they did whatever needed to survive. Norway Was one of the poorest countries in Europe back then. Tombstones in stone can be found that old, but this is very rare, in Trondheim they will be taken away as soon as no one pays the tax anymore, normally 20 years. Have you foud my add, cocerning my family ? That was all for now Odd
Odd HansenHello again ! I forgot to tell you the name of Haagen Olsens parents Ole Pedersen, Mediå farm in Grong wife: Kiersten Nielsdtr. and wife Elens parents: Casper Hansen Wullf and Maria Madsdtr. Muus. That takes you back another generation maybe around 1730 Odd
Odd HansenHello ! I have found one tobaccoshop that existed in 1888 named Olsen. It is not here today but the building might be. I have had a look in todays Nærøy on the nett, there is 4 Johansen working for the parish today, we can of course take a longshot at them hoping that they know a little familyhistory or at least their parents. Best wishes Odd
Norway2WisconsinOdd, I am simply amazed at how you have been able to find all of this information about my ancestors. Is this information that you have been able to locate online, or have you had to search through books for this? I haven't has a chance to research for you yet, but I see that others have been able to provide some very good information so far for you. As for my address, did you need my email address or my home address? Miles
Odd HansenHello again ! No, I have not got any help here yet, the information I have found on the net myself. Now I found another emigrant in the family so now there is 5 families over there, so it could be many persons. The new one is Christian Olsen from Eidsvoll, he went to La Crosse according to the emigrationlists here. Together with him was his daughter Olava Emilie 11 years old in 1870 when they emigrated. Christian was 34 at the time. He is my great-great grandfather. The last information I have from a book, from which I have taken 3 copies for you. If you do not want to put your adress in the open you can send it to oih2@start.no. If you dont need the copies tell me and I will pass over the info through here. For some parishes in Norway there is "bygdebøker " books that have a lot of info about the farms and their owners. There is such books for Nærøy. The rest of the info is availebel on the net. I have found also a Blomqvist family further up north, its a single women with 4 children from Sweden, could it be that he left her for some reason ? Odd
Odd HansenHello again ! Most of the info I have from the 1801-1865.1875 and 1900 census here, you can look around yourself, such for digitalarkivet.no, its a english service as well. Its helpful and best of all it does not coast a dime. Tell me if you get problems. Odd
Norway2WisconsinOdd, All I can say is incredible!! Thanks again. As I had mentioned in my email, I'll plan a trip to Wisconsin in the near future & see what I can do to locate your Great Great Grandfather in La Crosse. How long have you been interested in your family history? Most of mine was compiled back in the late 1960's & yearly 1970's. It was only on my Andreassen side & basically the information sat idle for 25 years until I got curious about the Blomqvist side. As for the Blomqvist with the 4 children, I don't know anything about her. Was the last name of Blomqvist common like the Andreassen's & others in Norway? Miles
Odd HansenHello ! I have sent you the letter with 3 photocopies from a book today, also the Blomkvists leaving for the US from Trondheim. I printed it out just in case. Yes, I did find a Blomqvist family in Tromsø, bur only the mother and 4 children. No, this not a common name here, but some families was here particulary around Oslo. That is why I think that they maybe related somehow, those in the north I mean. Niels make all the children become Nilsens and that is a very commom name here, so there can not be any of that family left with the name Blomqvist today. So I do not think that the Blomqvists up there today is your family, unless they later took the name back of course. This can be a puzle to solve. Odd
Odd HansenI did find the husband for the Blomqvist in Tromsø, he was in prison in Trondheim both in the 1865 and 1875 cesus. I thought for a moment that it was Niels that had left her behind. No, I am new to this game, a familymember asked me for help finding out more about the family, I did and now I am hanged up in it as well. She has been doing this for a long time, but did not make the wanted progress, she has still small children so there is not enough time for her to do archives and librarys. Odd
Odd HansenHello I just pass over Christian Olsen and his daughter living Oslo Emigranter fra Oslo 1867-1930 Hamn Nr. År Mnd. Dag Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Stand Yrke Alder Bustad Reisemål Merknad Utlending Frakt Linje 17270 Oslo 0986C 1870 Mai 24 Rekka Larsen f u 20 Ullensager La Crosse 1914 Norsk Spd. 145,24 Scotia 17271 Oslo 0987 1870 Mai 24 Edvard Emanuel Nielsen Torsrud m G Skrædder 24 Lier Milwauce 1915 Norsk Spd. 41,24 Scotia 17272 Oslo 0988 1870 Mai 24 Berthe Helene Salomonsdatter f G 23 Lier Milwauce 1916 Norsk Bet. I Amerika Scotia 17273 Oslo 0989 1870 Mai 24 Arne Olsen Sandvold m u Skomager 34 Tønset New York 1917 Norsk Spd. 45 Scotia 17274 Oslo 0990A 1870 Mai 24 Kristian Olsen m G Best. Af Dahl Træsl.fabr. 34 Eidsvold La Crosse 1918 Norsk Spd. 66 Scotia 17275 Oslo 0990B 1870 Mai 24 Olava Emilie f u 11 Eidsvold La Crosse 1919 Norsk Spd. 66 Scotia 17276 Oslo 0991 1870 Mai 24 Emma Johnsen f u 18 Kristiania New York 1920 Norsk Spd. 33,9 Scotia 17277 Oslo 0992A 1870 Mai 24 Oscar Nielsen Berger m u G. Søn 20 Norderhov Lansing 1921 Norsk Spd. 96,96 Scotia 17278 Oslo 0992B 1870 Mai 24 Tora Helgesen f u 25 Norderhov Lansing 1922 Norsk Spd. 96,96 Scotia 17279 Oslo 0993 1870 Mai 27 Johan Larsen Island m u Gaardbr. 37 Botne Omaha 1923 Norsk Spd. 54,24 Albion Odd
Odd HansenHello ! Here is Karen Maria with her family living in Skjervøy 1865- census 2592 1 1 Johan Andreassen hf Grdbr. Selveier Fisker g 36 m 2593 2 Karen Maria Andreassen* Hans Kone g 37 k Skjervøy 2594 3 Andreas Mikal Johansen* Deres Søn ug 7 m Skjervøy 2595 4 Martin Adrian Røk Johansen* Deres Søn ug 5 m 2596 5 Kristian Johanessen Deres Søn ug 3 m Skjervøy 2597 6 Serina Katrina Johanessdatter* Deres Datter ug 9 k 2598 7 Karoline Johana Johanessdatter* Deres Datter ug 1 k 2599 8 Simon Alexandersen Pleiebarn ug 13 m Skjervøy 2600 9 1 Ane Johana Persdatter Logerende Enke e 41 k Skje 2601 10 Albrigt Alexandersen Hendes Søn Fisker hjelper Moderen ug 18 m Skjervøy 2602 11 Magrete Alexandersdatter Hendes Dater Hjelper Modereen ug 20 k Skjervøy 2603 12 Else Bergitta Alexandersdatter* Hendes Dater ug 5 k Skjervøy 2604 13 Henrik Bugge Driver Enkens Fiskerbrug ug 40 m Skjervøy Digitalarkivet 2004. Rettar til Odd
Norway2WisconsinOdd, Hello again. I did some searching online today for your Christian & Olava Olsen on a couple of sites. I went to ancestory.com and I found a Christian Olsen that had died in 1906 in the town of Washington here in Minnesota. His birth place was listed as Eidsvoll. My attempt to locate this town was unsuccessful, so I went to Google and typed in Ancestory, Minnesota, Washington which brought me to the site for Minnesota local history & genealogy research guide. There I found a map for 1895 and I was able to locate Washington in the lower right corner of the state in Fillmore County, which was not too far from La Crosse Wisconsin. I have been unable to locate an information for Olava, but I'll keep searching. The Ancestory.com had a free 14 day trial offer..... Miles PS: There's talk of our first snowfall this week for Minnesota. How about your area? :)
Odd HansenHello Miles ! Thanks, it might be him, but how can we find it out. I do not know his place of birth but Eidsvoll was the last place he was in Norway, His wife was named Marthe is born about 1832 and migh also have crossed on a later stage with a small child that they got only 6 months before he left for the states, name Anna Oleson (or Christiansdtr ) born 19.08.1869. This was good news. Olava might be Olive in the states, I have seen that change once before. I found the churchbooks for the babtized in Kolvereid 1874-85, tell me if you have some in that periode I can look them up. Yes, yesterday we had a snowfall and a fall in temperature, so now we are below zero, and winter have startet. Yes, I have tried to enter a free periode at this company but it seems like one need a card number or a bancaccount on the net to join in for a free ride. I am still in the stoneage and like to have my money in my pocket. all the best Odd
Norway2WisconsinHello again Odd, I was thrilled to receive the copies that you had provided for me about my Andreassen ancestors and the information that you had shared about the great plague that had killed so many people years ago. I guess that it's amazing that any of our ancestors were lucky enough to have survived. Thank you also for the information on my Blomqvist side. I had assumed that the younger son, Nils, had died as a young man since he did not appear in pictures or was not on the ship with the other family members. He remains a bit elusive, so he'll be interesting to follow. I have not been able to locate him in Wisconsin except for his 1904 marriage application. For the Andreassens that may have been baptised in Kolvereid, they would have come after my Great Great Grandfather had sailed to America in 1867. The best possibilities would be the children of : Karen Maria Andreassen Prestvik - born September 20, 1829 Johan Hartvig Andreassen Prestvik - born February 22, 1830 Haagen Andreassen - born March 11, 1833 Elen Kirstine Andreassen Prestvik - born August 30, 1835 They would be a bit older for the information that you have, but since many familys had 10 or more children there might be a chance. For some strange reason I did manage to get a "trial" run on Ancestory.com ?? I'll check for you & me both. Take care!! Miles
Odd HansenHello again Miles This churchbooks was a small version of the real thing,so you must find your magnifying glass. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=17&idx_kilde=Alle&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js= Maybe you find some relatives in there. Odd
Odd HansenHello Miles ! Here you have the other guy I am looking for, Carl Hansen also his brother Alfred came over between 1905 and 1928. Here comes a copy of the 1900 census. 33740 1 Karl Hansen m b hf g Løsarbeider 1854 t n s 33741 Amanda Hansen k b hm g Hustru 1857 Christiania n s 33742 Alfred Hansen m f Engeland s ug Sømand 1880 t n s 33743 Haral Hansen m f Engeland s ug Sømand 1883 t n s 33744 Karl Hansen m b s ug Visergut v/ handelskont. 1885 t n 33745 Ragna Hansen k b d ug Datter 1888 t n s 33746 Anna Hansen k b d ug Datter 1890 t n s 33747 Sylvia Hansen k b d ug Datter 1893 t n s 33748 Sverre Hansen m b s ug Søn 1897 t n s 33749 Sigrid Hansen k b d ug 1900 3/8 t n s Søn [Felt 10] and here he is living from Oslo Tvenge m u Arbeider 22 ø.slidre N.dakota 10579 Norge 199,- Montebello 157073 Oslo 3058 1904 April 22 Marie Syversen f u 23 Vaage Boston 10580 Norge Prp Montebello 157074 Oslo 3059 1904 April 22 Ragna Kristoffersen f G 36 Amerika Pensylvanin 10581 Usa 89,- Montebello 157075 Oslo 3060 1904 April 22 Antonie Hetager f u 21 Kristiania Pensylvanin 10582 Norge 89,- Montebello 157076 Oslo 3061 1904 April 22 Oscar Henrik Halvorsen m G Smed 30 Drammen New York 10583 Norge 60,- Montebello 157077 Oslo 3062 1904 April 22 Karl Vilhelm Hansen m u Arbeider 18 Frosten Pensylvanin 10584 Norge 89,- Montebello 157078 Oslo 3063 1904 April 22 Thorvald Nilsen Moen m G Smed 34 Drammen New York 10585 Norge 60,- Montebello 157079 Oslo 3064 1904 April 22 Robert Henry Halvorsen m G Maler 33 Drammen Wisconsin 10586 Norge 161,- Montebello 157080 Oslo 3065 1904 April 22 Anton (andresen) Andreasen m u Sjømand 26 Moss New York 10587 Norge 60,- Montebello 157081 Oslo 3066 1904 April 22 Edvard Hugo Leonhard Svanberg m G Korrespodent (artist) 33 Sverige New York 10588 Sverige 60,- Montebello I have also seen his name at Ellis Isl. he arrived in 1904, 18 years of age. I also found his social securitynr. issued in Pennsylvania so therefore I assume that he was there at least until 1936 as one of you correctly stated. He used the name Carl Hansen. I do not know his contact in the usa, but I suspect that his uncle Lorents Hansen is that person. Once again, thanks for helping me. Alfred Margido Hansen born 07.08.1880 Karl Vilhelm Hansen born 27.12.1885
Norway2WisconsinHello Odd, I have shared with so many people that I have met recently about all of the information that you have provided and all of the information that is available online that I'm creating some interest in them to do some exploring on their ancestors as well. I've given them the address for this site and told them that they can read along and see what's going on. A couple of questions for you... the farm of Prestvik that my ancestors would have owned, is there a way of finding out how large the farm size would have been? ( in America it would be in acres) Is there a chance that the farm would still exist today if it had been sold? I noticed in a book when we visited St. Lake City that the farm name had 3 different spellings that dated back to the 1670's if I recall correctly. I been staying up late entering all of the names & dates on the papers that you had sent. Thank you again so much!! Take care, Miles :)
Odd HansenHello Miles ! Yes, I remember reading something about that the name has slightly chanched over the years, I also remember reading that there has been a reduction of the size, they cut it up in 3 at one stage, I will look it up when I at the library next time. The size I do not know but they was not big, They usually runned a combined farm, combined with fishing mainly. but also blacksmith, shoemaker, carpenter aso. I will have a look. Odd B
Norway2WisconsinOdd, I just opened the email that you had forwarded and I was amazed to find 35 pages of information about my Norwegian ancestors!!!! THANK YOU, THANK YOU,THANK YOU!! My head is spinning a bit right now as I'm trying to take all of this in. I admire all of the work that this person has done to collect everything, and I'm delighted to add all of the information that I can from the American side that began with my Great Great Grandfather Kristian Andreassen Prestvik who had emmigrated here in 1867. This is so exciting!!!! I am fortunate to have a book that one of the granddaughters of Kristian had compiled back in 1975. In that book it describes the hardships that were endured on that 7 week trip across the Atlantic Ocean, the sorrow that was felt by Kristian's wife, Hanna Julianna, as she watched the coastline of her beloved Norway slowly disappear, the hard journey through Canada into Wisconsin, the loss of her young daughter, Petra, shorty after arriving in Wisconsin. Many of these same stories were shared with me by my Grandmother, Gertrude Nelson, as I grew up. These stories are forever etched in my brain and I enjoy sharing them. The quote that I had posted for myself when I had first become a new member here was from that very same lady, Hanna Julianna... "So this is America" after all that she had left behind and the hardship that she and her family had endured. Her daughter is buried in an unmarked grave in an area named Rush River. My wife & I have been there several times to visit and say prayers for Petra. One thing nice about those of us who have "faith" - we know that there's a big "family reunion" waiting for us in Heaven and all of our questions about our ancestory will be answered.... :) Thank you again Odd & God Bless you & your family!! Miles
Norway2WisconsinOdd, It has been a hope & a dream of mine to see if I could someday, somehow, find a living relative of mine somewhere in Norway. You made my dream come true. I received an incredible letter from a lady by the name of Anne that lives in the Oslo area. She shared with me so much about the Nord-Trondelag area and in particular, the history of the old farm name of Prestvik. She had written about Prestvik maybe being divided out from Mulstad, that it was cleared and it's use started before 1350. That's about 150 years before Christopher Columbus had sailed to America. That's old!! One thought that I had tonight was about my ancestors when they had first arrived here. I don't know what type of mail was available back in 1867 that might make it back to Norway from rural Wisconsin, but the couple of emails that Anne & I have shared could very well be the first exchange that has taken place between relatives in nearly 138 years. What an incredible Christmas gift this has been. Thank you again Odd, Miles
Odd HansenHello Miles ! They did manage to get some letters home in those days as well, but how they did it I do not know. I have looked a little into the Blomkvists as well, but this is more difficult. There are 2 families in the north of Norway, my guess is that they came together from the same place in Sweden, mayby same family as well. I have through misterious ways managed to find a nice women in the archives at La Crosse, but she has problems in finding my " man " there. I have also received a mail with graveyards in the area from a nice man, without finding my man. I do not know whats the matter , he has a common name, i have found 3 Christian Olsens on their way to La Crosse in 1869/70. Odd
Norway2WisconsinHello again Odd, I am curious about the Blomqvist side of mine that had come from Sweden. Would a person have set out on their own to persue a better life or traveled as a family? I guess it would vary with every person and every situation. I do know from what my Grandmother had shared with me that he had met Gertrud Jacobsdatter in the Mo area. The 1900 census indicates that she was from the Hemnes area and he was from Borgevik i Sverige. Is Hemnes near Mo? Is Borgevika is a town is Sweden... Miles
HopkinsThere is a parish in Värmland, Sweden by the name of Borgvik. The LDS Family History Library has the parish records for that area available on microfilm. There might be one or two other locations in Sweden known as Borgvik (perhaps in Gotland? - you should check a good gazetteer for that country.
Odd HansenMiles ! If one go out the Ranfjord with a ship from Mo harbour, you pass Hemnesberget on the left side and Nesna on the right side. It could be that 2 other Blomqvist families up north is your family to. As you said a single man emigrating is rare, my guess is that he came with at least one of the other families. If we can find them in Sweden it will probably solve the problem. Odd
Norway2WisconsinThank you both. Thus far I have entered 300 names and have at least the same amount left. The help that I have received here from you Odd, and others has been incredible. I've been organizing the shared paperwork information as well.... this is so much fun!! Thank you. Miles
HopkinsThere was a boy baptised in Borgvik, Värmland, Sweden in the first few days of January 1840 who was named Nils Petter Nilssen. His father was Nils or Niels Olsson, a shoemaker from Grums, and Brita Larsdtr. The family appears to reside on the Västra Borgvik farm until about 1852 when they then appear residing on the Starkjerr (I'm unsure of that spelling). About 1856 the Starkjerr farm also shows a long list of young men from many different parish origins (some might also be Norwegian origins) and many listed with what appear to be various Swedish military names. Sources - LDS microfilms #0081796 (records of specific baptisms, etc) and #0081793 (household surveys 1846-1860)
landsHi Miles, I just wanted to confirm to you that letters did manage to get back to Norway from here (Iowa) via postage. I recently found a group of about 15 letters in a secret compartment of a shipping trunk and they were postmarked, stamped etc between 1858 and 1872. Regards Steve
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Hi Miles, I just wanted to confirm to you that letters did manage to get back to Norway from here (Iowa) via postage. I recently found a group of about 15 letters in a secret compartment of a shipping trunk and they were postmarked, stamped etc between 1858 and 1872. Regards Steve
Wow, what a treasure! Those letters must really have been interesting reading!
Norway2WisconsinSteve, Thank you for the information about letters back to Norway. I have to agree with Borge that you certainly have discovered a great treasure. Those are things that you read in books that have been published about the early immigrants. I'd enjoy hearing some stories if you would care to send me an email. Thank you Hopkins for your help with the research also. It's so amazing that you are able to trace the information so far back. I told my wife last night that I was getting closer to being completed with my family tree...she reminded me that a person is never truly completed... :-) I have to believe that she is correct. Miles
HopkinsRecords of Borgvik, Värmland, Sweden are readily available at an LDS Family History going back at least as early as 1718 - you should be able to track ancestors residing there to earlier generations than the one I spotted. If his father was born in nearby Grums - the LDS library catalog indicates that those records are available as early as 1727.
landsHi Again, Yes I agree with you they would be interesting reading, if only I could read them. I had a contact in Norway who was going to translate them for me, I tried scanning them (they would not scan very well and then I lost his email address). I would be prepared to photo copy the letters and send them to someone (via snail mail) in Norway for translation (possibibly Borge) and even let any of them be posted on this site should they be of interest to the site. Regards Steve originalof@hotmail.com
Jo Anne SadlerPeople on the forum can contact you by clicking on your name - from Posting Guidelines: Do not post your e-mail addresses in the messages on the forum. If you do, they will be available for spammers. [:(]
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Hi Again, Yes I agree with you they would be interesting reading, if only I could read them. I had a contact in Norway who was going to translate them for me, I tried scanning them (they would not scan very well and then I lost his email address). I would be prepared to photo copy the letters and send them to someone (via snail mail) in Norway for translation (possibibly Borge) and even let any of them be posted on this site should they be of interest to the site. Regards Steve originalof@hotmail.com
Ok, I'll be willing to have a go at it, send me the the copies any way it will work for you. I will let you know more when I see the copies. [:p]
Norway2WisconsinOdd, I sent off some letters to some people that had the same last name as the farm, Prestvik, that my Great Great Grandfather was born on. I discovered a lady in Kolvereid with the same last name as the farm, Garmannvik, that his wife was from. And I sent one off to a guy here in the US in Montana that is a distant relative.... I'll see who responds. Miles :)
Norway2WisconsinOdd & Anne, I had sent some letters to people with the same last name as my Great Great Grandfathers last name of Prestvik, but have not heard from anyone yet. I found the last name of a lady with the same last name as my Great Great Grandmother, Garmannvik, and was thrilled to have received an email from her daughter. Hopefully we can find out if we are related. Miles
Odd HansenMiles, there is some Prestviks and Garmansvik in Trondheim as well, I found at least 8 persons in the phonebook. If you want their names contact me on the private mail. Odd
Norway2WisconsinOdd, I was very happy to have received an email from a relative with the Prestvik name. As it turns out he & I share the same May 26th birthday... just a couple years apart. His Great Grandfather was the man that had inherited the family farm & was the older brother to my Great Great Grandfather!! Miles :)