Hans Myhre Help!!!

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Topic author: Cheryl
Subject: Hans Myhre Help!!!
Posted on: 05/11/2003 04:10:49
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My g grandfather came from somewhere in Norway. All I know is he came around 1888 or before. His name on his naturalization papers says Hans Myhre, but he changed it to Hans Meyer. He was a wood carver. Family history says he came over to work in the Norwegian Exhibition at the Columbian Exhibit at the Chicago Worlds Fair. He later moved to Two Rivers Wisconsin. He was born 6/2/1861. He married Mathilda Sundborg who was from sweden also working at the Fair. Could there be any records of people working at this exhibit?? Thanks for any help or suggestions finding him.

Cheryl

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Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 06/11/2003 02:41:29
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Hi Cheryl I don't know if this is much help but here is an article on the Norwegian Pavilion which was built in Orkanger which is in Orkdal Sor Trondelag Click Here Maybe he came from that area.
Carla

Reply author: Borge
Replied on: 09/11/2003 18:51:26
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Do you know if Hans had any siblings, or perhaps if he was married twice? What was the names of his children?

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 11/11/2003 13:15:04
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Hans was only married once to Mathilda Sundborg from sweden. They met and married in Chicago on 12/8/1888. They never talked about their countries. My father said he came over as a wood carver and worked in the Norwegian Exhibition for the Chicago World's Fair. He became a citizen in 1888 so he arrived before that. He was born 6/18/1861. Around 1898 he moved to Two Rivers, Wisconsin. His children were Henry, Alfred, Reuben, Marie (Mae), Rose, and Thorval. We know nothing else about him. Mathilda is the same way except my father remembers her having a sister that lived somewhere in Minnesota. My father also said they he thought he heard the farm he came from was Myhrum. He changed his name from Myhre to Meyer on his naturalization papers. Thanks for any help.

Reply author: thelebrity
Replied on: 11/11/2003 14:34:18
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This might be the one: Hans Hansen at the farm Nordre Myrum (Northern Myrum) in Vågå parish in Oppland fylke.
He is here in the 1865 census, and he is the son of a wood carver. He is listed as born in 1860, but the censuses aren't always accurate on birth years.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&spraak=norsk&kommnr=0515&kretsnr=0002&bostnr=0051&leilnr=000

One Hans H. Myrum (occupation listed as tailor) is leaving Oslo for New York in june 1888. But I'm far from sure this is your man:
http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=71463&fulle=true&spraak=n

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 11/11/2003 15:00:38
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Hi Cheryl,
fyi , The World's Columbian Exposition was held in Chicago in 1893, 400 years after Columbus "discovered" America.

I wonder if Hans already back in 1888 knew about the exhibition 5 years later...

Jan

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 11/11/2003 21:27:25
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1920 Federal Census done on January 14, 1920:
Two Rivers Township, Manitowoc County, WI, ED 124, page 15A:
Hans Meyer, age 59, immigrated 1884, naturalized 1890, born Norway, Supervisor ?
Matilda, age 55, born Sweden, immigrated-can't read it.
Alfred, son, 24, single, born Illinois
Reuben, son, 22 single, born Wisconsin
Thorval, son, 12, born Wisconsin

1930 Federal census done on April 18, 1930:
Hans Meyer, age 68, own home, owns radio, age at first marriage 28 (1890), born Norway, manager woodwork factory.
Matilda, wife, 65, born Sweden
Alfred, 38, single, born Illinois, bookeeper at wood work factory.
Thorval, 22, single, born Wisconsin, manager orchestra

The Wisconsin Gen Web is very active -couldn't make the link work but just do a Google inquiry or go through
www.vitalrec.com and you will find it. There are four Meyer inquiries under the Surname & Family History Section. There are also lookup volunteers for some of the local history books.

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 11/11/2003 21:32:25
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One more item, on the 1930 census it states Hans immigrated in 1871 and Matilda immigrated in 1886.

Reply author: thelebrity
Replied on: 12/11/2003 14:30:29
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I'm not sure if the immigration years in the 1920 and 1930 census can be considered reliable as they vary with 13 years. But this is the Only Hans Hansen/My(h)rum/Meyer I found to fit with emigrating from norway in 1871 or 1884:

http://129.177.171.80/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&variabel=0&postnr=63270&fulle=true&spraak=n

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 12/11/2003 19:00:37
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Yes, I agree with you entirely. The 1930 "1871" date seems really out of line and the 1920 "1884" date is probably correct. In doing my own family research, the 1930 census seems to have alot of errors. Census records have always to be taken with a grain of salt, but usually one gleans some helpful information.

The best documents are the ones that the individuals fill out themselves, marriage, naturalization, social security and draft applications.

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 13/11/2003 03:07:34
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Wow!!! So do you feel that this Hans Hansen on the farm Myrum is my g grandfather?? What about the Hans that came over in 1884? The age doesn't seem right there. I have another post out here asking where Gornibe is. On my grandmother's birth certificate it says he was from Gornibe, Norway. This could be a misspelling. Are all the other people listed on the Myrum farm siblings, parents, etc.??

Thanks so much for everyone's help. You wonder why he never spoke of his family. The same with Mathilda other than she had a sister. We don't know where she came from.

Reply author: thelebrity
Replied on: 13/11/2003 09:03:41
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I was just wondering about the Gornibe. Is it a hand written word that you can't quite transcribe, or is it printed or typed like that.
If it's in hand writing, would it be possible for you to scan it and put the image in a message on this forum so we could have a look at it.

Lacking alternatives I think the Myrum farm in Vågå is worth while further investigating. The parish registers of Vågå could tell if this Hans was emigrating, and his (or his siblings) baptizm record and his parents marriage records could tell if "Gomibe" is an americanized version of the name of a farm he lived on/was born at.

Actually the relevant part of the Vågå parish registers should be searchable at Arkivnett Oppland:http://www.arkivnett.ol.no/dbsok/nkb.asp
but clicking on Vågå only gives you the message that nothing is yet registered. I have emailed Arkivnett Oppland asking them what is wrong. Hopefully the error can be fixed and the mystery solved.

Reply author: Borge
Replied on: 13/11/2003 17:58:26
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This could be a realtive, Jacob Myrum, from Vaage (Vågå), also a woodcarver, going to Chicago in 1891

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 13/11/2003 18:55:52
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Hi On the LDS IGI there is
HANS HANSEN
Male
Event(s):
Christening:
30 SEP 1860 Vaagaa, Oppland, Norway
Parents:
Father: HANS OLSEN
Mother: MARIT JACOBSDR
So if the birthdate you have is correct then this likely isn't yours
Have you gotten copies of his marriage record (Illinois has it on line) and any of their childrens birth records. Is there any hint as to what Hans' fathers 1st name was or did Hans ever use an initial. Any hint as to what his patronymic name was.
Carla

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 15/11/2003 01:45:28
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I know his birth date is correct. 6/18/1861. It is on his tombstone and also in all obits, etc. He never used any middle initial that we are aware of. I do have their marriage info. They were married 12/8/1888 in Chicago and I have a copy of it. My grandmother's birth certificate says he was born in Gornibe, Norway. It was written and not typed so it could be hard to decipher. Also, he spoke very little English so it's hard telling if the translation is correct. It also said his wife was born in Norway, but we know that she was born in Sweden. Could that be a town in Sweden and not Norway?? Hans' other children were named Henry, Alfred, Reuben, Rose and Thorval. We always thought my grandmother's name was Mae Violet, but on her birth certificate it say Marie Wielet which could be a Norwegian way to spell Violet. Thanks again for your help. Cheryl

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 15/11/2003 15:44:12
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Hi Cheryl On the birthcertificate, you might try and find someone who is experianced in transcribing documents from the time it was issued (maybe local historical societies) The letters used then are often quite different than what we use now. Here is a page that may be of use Click Here Gornibe just doesn't fit in with anything we can find in Norway now.
Part of the problem is that Myhre/Myrum may not be the farm he was born on. It could be the farm he was living on before he left Norway.
The Norwegian v sounds like a w so Wielet was more than likely meant to be Violet..
You could try joining the Norway L mailing list. It's exremely active. Be sure and refer to the information found here so they don't research what has already been found.
Click Here
Carla

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 06/09/2006 00:21:08
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I am still looking for my Hans Myhre in the census. I believe I found him sailing from Liverpool to New York on the Celtic arriving 6/12/1881. He became a US citizen in 1886. How did he get to Liverpool??? I cannot seem to find anything on a Hans Myhre leaving Norway that fits the time frame, etc. Could his name have been different leaving Norway than it was arriving in US???

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Cheryl

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 06/09/2006 01:12:33
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Recommend some of the many articles on this site about the voyage, Hull, Liverpool, leaving Norway, Those Norwegian Names.

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 06/09/2006 01:23:16
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It is interesting that Hans is listed as John Meyer in 1900 and is listed as a minister. He lists his birth as June of 1862! and lists that he immigrated to the US in 1885. He and Swedish born Matilda have been married for 12 years but they do not show any children living in the household.
1910 the family is living in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. Now listed as Hans Meyer - he works as a factory foreman. 6 children in the household - the oldest listed as 20. The son listed as 12 years old is indicated as born in Wisconsin -- (but 10 years earlier his mother lives in Chicago??) The year of Hans immigration appears to read 1882 - but a better image than a scanned copy may improve that reading.

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 07/09/2006 00:22:15
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Boy that is interesting. I wonder if John could be a middle name??? He was born June of 1861. They were married in 1888. I do have a copy of his naturalization papers and it is 1886. Didn't they need to be a resident 5 years before they could obtain citizenship??? If so, that means the 1885 immigration date is wrong. Also strange no children listed in 1900. My grandmother was born in 1893. Their oldest child was born 1889 in Chicago along with my grandmother being born in Chicago. I have a copy of her birth certificate. On it, it lists place of birth for Hans as Gornibe. It is written and not typed so I could have that wrong, but no one seems to know where this is in Norway.

I was recently on a cruise and stopped for 1 day in Oslo. What a beautiful city this is!!!

Thanks for your help.

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 07/09/2006 03:03:13
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If Cook Co or the city of Chicago recorded father's place of birth on a child's birth certificate - why haven't you collected the birth certificates for ALL his children? Wouldn't that increase your chances of getting a birthplace for him that can actually be understood?

Did you find church records in US locations where he and Matilda were members? They were both probably Lutheran and Lutheran ministers were often very good about making notes of WHERE new members had been originally baptised and confirmed.

I know you feel convinced that he was born in 1861 because of his gravestone and obituaries. But keep in mind that HE didn't give the date for those, he was deceased. Someone else did - and possibly someone who was very upset. So keep some flexibility in that. ( I have an official death certificate for my great grandmother - the only correct piece of information besides her death date and cause of death is her name - but that is Americanized. )

City directories for the city of Chicago give you additional information about the family?

I've pretty well exhausted all my ideas to offer you.

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 07/09/2006 05:00:46
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Hi Cheryl, I think Hopkins has the wrong Meyer in the 1900 census. There is a Hans, last name can't be read, born June 1862 or 1863 living in MANITOWOC. He is Norwegian and immigrated in 1880. Can't read his wife's name but she 35, been married 12 years, has 5 children and was born in Sweden. Luckily the children are listed on the next page, last name Myer. Hard to read the son's names but the daughter is named May born June 1893.
There is a BROTHER living with them John born Sept 1865 in Norway. He immigrated in 1884, is a wood carver and is single. This gives you another individual to search on.

Carla

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 07/09/2006 15:51:53
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I like that find, I really do! The 1900 John Meyer in Chicago did seem a VERY odd match (even if married to a Swedish Matilda, same state birth month and year) but I'd decided to track the wife through censuses and that seemed so uncanny a near match. I'd wonder if that address was near where the family had lived just a couple years earlier - Chicago city directories might clarify that.
With the BROTHER "John" in MANITOWOC that appears to lead right back to the same family group earlier found by 'thelebrity' in Vaaga, Oppland, Norway in the 1865 (edited typo) Norwegian census -
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0515&kenr=002&bnr=0051&lnr=000

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 07/09/2006 23:58:30
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Ok, so now there is a John Meyer. Was his last name definitely Meyer??? My father said there was never any mention of any relatives of Hans ever coming to this country, but my father also did not know his last name was Myhre and not Meyer. My grandmother's name was Mae or on her birth certificate Marie so that is the May and she was born in 1893. They did go to Manitowoc and that is where he is buried. I have written twice to the Lutheran Church there with no answers. I will request the other birth certificates of the children as you suggested. The other children were Henry, Alfred, Reuben, Rose and Thorval. Not very Norwegian or Swedish names except the Thorval.

Thanks for all your replies. I will start ask my father if he remembers anything about a John Meyer.

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 08/09/2006 00:27:48
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Being listed in the 1900 census with a last name that looked like John Myer (we think) doesn't mean his last name was definitely anything. It only means that was what appeared in that particular census.
You should gather the best copies of all those censuses and every other record for the family members that you can. You have to make your own decisions. Re-study the article about Norwegian names on this website.

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 18/09/2011 19:07:49
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I am still searching for my Hans Myhrum/Myhre/Myrum. I have found this recently, but how do I prove this is my Hans.I did find in the 1905 Wisconsin census a brother Myrum. Also, I found in another census a John Myrum living with him.

In this census it says his father is a woodcarver. Both my Hans and his brother John were woodcarvers.

My question is where do I go next to prove this is my family?

Any help would be appreciated.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0515&kenr=002&bnr=0051&lnr=000

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 18/09/2011 19:33:45
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Hi,

There are Cook County Illinois at www.familysearch.org birth certificates for 3 children of a couple named Hans Meyer and Mathilda Sundberg. One of the children's father's birthplace is given as Gulbrandsdalen. You may want to look at each of the 3:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MZZ9-FT8/p1

How you prove it is by having an exact set of details on your Hans (birthdates, places etc) from records here and then compare to records (in this case Vaage Oppland church registers) and see how closely they match.

Vaage, for instance, is in Gulbrandsdalen, so that might work to help cement the ties between the proposed Hans and your Hans.

In the Gudbrandalslaget Aarbog 13 & 14 published in US about 1926 there are several Myrhes/ Myrom from Vaage listings amongst the membership list:

Myhers, T.J. (Myrhre) Osseo, Wisc. born in US
Myhers, Ole (Myhre) 925 Water Street, Eau Claire, Wisc, came to US in 1881
Myrom, Hans O. Brookings S.D. came to US in 1905
Myrom, Jacob T. Strum, Wisc came to US 1880
Myrom, Mrs. Jacob T (Bakken) Strum, Wisc. came to US in 1879
Myrom, Jacob Eleva, Wisc. born in US

Are any of these names you know?

Good Luck,

Jackie M.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 18/09/2011 20:07:52
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Hi.
Hans Olsen b. 1820 you found on Myrum married to Marit Jacobsdatter, 7 children.
Family status; Ind "Inderst" a relative to the owners (probably a son) occ: "Treskjærer" Wood carver.
Ronnaug Olsdr. widow b. 1830, same familystatus as Hans Olsen, 3 daughters and a grandson , probably Hans Olsen´s sister?

Kåre

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 18/09/2011 21:23:05
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Originally posted by Brining

Hi On the LDS IGI there is
HANS HANSEN
Male
Event(s):
Christening:
30 SEP 1860 Vaagaa, Oppland, Norway
Parents:
Father: HANS OLSEN
Mother: MARIT JACOBSDR
So if the birthdate you have is correct then this likely isn't yours
Carla

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 18/09/2011 23:36:08
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Hi.
This is an old topic, so at the risk of a repetition;

Hans Hansen Myren age 20. em. April 24. 1880 from Vaag (Vågå) on ship on ship Hero, dest. Chicago, occ. woodcarver.
Hero went to Hull, England where Hans had to change ship, see here

Kåre

Reply author: AntonH
Replied on: 19/09/2011 03:12:03
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Cheryl, I wonder if you have the wrong Hans Myhre arrival. Here is another Hans Myhre that fits well with the date of leaving Norway posted by Kåarto. Althoiugh the transcriber read the name as Hans O, I would read it as Hans C and he is going to Chicago.

Name: Hans O Myhren
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Date of Arrival: 11 May 1880
Vessel: Sarmatian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Sarmatian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

Reply author: AntonH
Replied on: 19/09/2011 03:43:23
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In the 1900 US Census it lists Hans Myhren as emmigrating in 1880, the birth year is however off.

Name: Hans Myer
[Hana Myer]
[Hans Kyer]
Home in 1900: Manitowoc Ward 2, Manitowoc, Wisconsin
[Manitowoc, Manitowoc, Wisconsin]
Age: 37
Birth Date: Jun 1862
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's Name: Matilda Myer
Marriage year: 1888
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 12
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members: Name Age
Hans Myer 37
Matilda Myer 35
Henry Myer 10
Rosie Myer 9
May Myer 6/12
Alfred Myer 5
Rufus Myer 2
John Myer 34

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 19/09/2011 09:51:52
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Hi.
Myrum, Myr, Myhre, Myra, Myren means the same in Norwegian; BOG.
Vågå has its own dialect, quite dif. from other areas in Norway.
The Norwegian alphabet is pronounced differently from the English.

The Y in Myhre has a long Y, you can practice here

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 19/09/2011 12:15:45
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Myrum and Meyer in the Manitowoc forest, see right side page 110 here

Info tells that Jonn Meyer was born Sept. 1865. it correspond with the 1865 census and the church record from Vaage/ Vågå.
Johannes (John) Hansen born on Myrum Sept. 17. 1865, same parents as Hans Hansen Myrum;
Farmer Hans Olsen and Marit Jacobsdatter Myrum, see #101

Kåre

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 08/10/2011 23:12:38
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Thank you for your responses. I believe this is my family.

One more question. I can't seem to find Hans in the parish register that you noted John is in. I found John (Johannes) and also found a sister Barbro, but no Hans.

I scanned all of 1861 & 62 for birth date, first names of Hans and also looked for his parents, but could not locate the correct Hans. Can anyone find him?

Thanks again for everyone's help

Cheryl

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 10/10/2011 11:13:28
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I can't seem to find Hans in the parish register that you noted John is in

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Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 10/10/2011 11:55:00
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The confirmation record for Hans Hansen, Myrum is #19, it says that he was born on Nedre Sandboeie.

The parents Hans Olsen, Sandboeie and Marit Jacobsdatter, Blesumeie were married Dec 5 1850, see #37.

The grandparents Ole Hansen and Rønnoug Thoresdatter were married Oct 30 1819, see #32.

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 15/10/2011 17:00:38
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Ok, now I am confused. Everything I have says Hans was born 6/18/1861. It is on his obituary and his tombstone. I always thought the 6/18 was strange because that is the date of my grandmother's birthday his daughter Mae or Marit. Would everyone agree that maybe the tombstone is wrong and his obit wrong. I imagine his wife gave the birth date because she was still alive when he died or it could have been his oldest son Henry that gave the birth date. Mathilda was in a nursing home when Hans died. What woould be the reason for a difference in birth date?

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 16/10/2011 03:18:42
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Hi,

Well, we are each an eyewitness to our own birth but we are in no condition to be "good" witnesses of the event!

So the reason a person knows their birth date is because they've been told that it's a certain date and that the family celebrates a certain date, that the pastor gave an attest that the person was born on a certain date (even though the pastor has made a mistake or has misremembered and written it down incorrectly.) Or maybe Hans wasn't sure that he remembered the date and once the babies started asking about Papa's birthday, he made something up which was close or what he remembered having heard, etc. Lots of reasons for a variance in a date.

To extinguish your doubt about the finding of Hans, here are some interesting statistics:

In the 1865 Norwegian census online there is a way to search for an individual about whom you have limited information. Looking only for persons whose first name is Hans (no other spelling, no combo names, etc.) who was born only in 1861 (all dates within that year, not just 18 June) there are 1,097 people who answer to that. If you had started searching for the birth/ baptism record for each one of those back in 2003 when you were working this question before, finding one a day, you would have already been done, about 5 years ago,

But since a place of origin has been found in one online record for your Hans as "Gulbransdalen" that eliminating a large portion of that 1097. You could now look for the birth/ baptism 101 Hans b. 1861 who were living in Oppland fylke (the political division which contains the area called Gudbrandsdalen) for any that were born on that date. A one-a-day search will take something like 3-4 months (I'm padding a bit here because there will be a number of Hans' born in 1861 who will have moved in the years between 1861-1866 to other parishes and you will need a bit of time to find them as well),

This exhaustive research should eliminate any doubt about your Hans, particularly if you don't find any other Hans born on the date.

It might be best if you took the time and collected absolutely every record on the man, his children, his wife and each of his siblings (particularly the brother John who was also in the US--by the by is John or any other sibling mentioned in the copy of Hans's obit you have?) over here.

Jackie M.

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 16/10/2011 20:08:48
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Nothing mentioned in Hans' obit about any siblings or where he was born. it just said Norway and birth date of 6/18/1861.

I found the Gubrandsdalen on his oldest son's brith certificate.

On John's entry through Castle Garden is said his nearest relative was his father back in Vaage. So the family was still in Vaage. I will search further in that area to confirm this is really my Hans.

I haven't had much time since first asking about him since I usually work 50-60 hours a week. Hopefully in a few years when I retire I can devote more time to my geneology which i truely love doing. Thank you everyone for your help

Reply author: joyhart
Replied on: 20/10/2011 22:19:28
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As mentioned previously, the Han Hansen from the Myhrum/Myrum farm had these siblings:
Rønnoug (= Ronnaug) was born Jan 17 1851
Ole was born June 25 1853
Poul (= Paul) was born Sept 15 1855
Tosten (= Thorstein) was born Nov 7 1857
Johannes (John) was born on Sept. 17 1865

Ole appears in the 1910 Norway census, but I didn't see Hans' other brothers listed.
There's a Paul Meier listed in the 1900 Chicago census, born Sept 1854 in Norway. His wife is Lina and 5 of their 10 children are living. They appear under the name "Myhrum" in the 1910 & 1920 censuses. They were living their married daughter in 1920. Lina died in 1921 and Paul died in 1931. Paul was a cabinet maker. I think this is Paul and Lina emigrating from Kristiania in 1881:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=34950&merk=34950#ovre

There's a Thorsten Myhrum in the 1900 Chicago census, born Nov 1856 in Norway. He's married with 4 living children. He's a wood carver:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113721_00229&fn=Thoret*&ln=Inghram&st=d&ssrc=&pid=10670167

This is Thorsten's 1906 death certificate (same street address as above):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11616-32835-12?cc=1463134

John "Myrum," born September 1865 in Norway in 1900 Grand Rapids, MI. He's a woodcarver:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004120234_00721&fn=John&ln=Myrum&st=d&ssrc=&pid=64555429

Widower John Myhrum in the 1930 Chicago census. Not sure if this the same John:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6224&iid=ILT626_466-0328&fn=John&ln=Myhrum&st=d&ssrc=&pid=83917832

A John Myhrum born about 1864 in Norway died in Cook County, IL in 1938:
http://tinyurl.com/5tu83zz

Here is Ole Hansen Myrum's headstone in Norway. With the presence of flowers, one can assume descendants are caring for the grave. You might want to try to make contact with them. They may have more information on Hans...
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3160413

Lykke til! (Good luck!)
Vickie in MN

Reply author: Cheryl
Replied on: 04/11/2011 23:08:44
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Thanks so much for the picture. You said to make contact with them, but where do I find an email address on who contributed the gravestone picture.

I am so thankful to everyone for all the information.

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