John Narvesen/ Aslaug Olsdatter

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Topic author: Kimberly Johnson
Subject: John Narvesen/ Aslaug Olsdatter
Posted on: 24/09/2013 19:10:16
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I found a site on My Heritage that has info on my gg grandfather John Narvesen b. Dec. 28 1815 from Sandsvaer, Buskerud, Norway. He was Married to Aslaug Olsdatter b. Oct 15 1826. The site is Sandsvaer Familys The info comes from a Bygdebook, on the My Heritage site. I had most of the info on his site from what family had researched before and what i could figure out from Census and Parish Data. I had never heard of Bydebooks before and wonder what is actually says. Also I have Narves parents listed as Narve Truelsen b. abt 1775 Baptized April 8 1775. His mother as Rønnoug Olsdatter. the 1801 Census if its the same person has her listed as Rønnev Anbiørnsdatter. I would like to find more about them their marriage date and children. Aslaug parents I have as Ole Ingebretson b. abt.1795 and Marthe Arnesdatter b.abt 1791 think they might be from Kongsberg.
Aslaug and most of their children Immigrated to the United States My g grandfather was Tinius Johnson b. Jan.15 1864 he Immigrated in 1882 first to Massachusetts then New Sweden Aroostook county Maine, USA. If anyone wants info on the other Children of John and Aslaug. I can help. Would love help with the older generation since I cant read Norwegian . Thanks Kim

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Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 24/09/2013 19:34:44
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Marriage record #26
John Narvesen Moen (28) & Aslaug Olsdatter (18)
Marriage: 12 Oct 1844, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
His father: Narve Trulsen
Her father: Ole Ingebretsen
Source: Buskerud county, Sandsvær, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1840-1856), Marriage records 1844, page 430-431.

Jan Peter

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 20:19:04
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Thank you that is so cool. How did you link it like that? I guess its time my kids give me a refresher course on how to use the computer!

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 24/09/2013 20:28:22
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Children of John Narvesen & Asloug Olsdr:
Barbro Maria, birth: 24 Mar 1845, chr: 15 Jun 1845, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway
Marthe Gurine, birth: 31 Jul 1846, chr: 13 Sep 1846, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway
Narve, birth: 04 Feb 1848, chr: 30 Jul 1848, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway
Rise Kattrine, birth: 01 Sep 1854, chr: 05 Nov 1854, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Berthe Karine, birth: 25 Jun 1857, chr: 28 Jun 1857, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Anna Sophie, birth: 05 Sep 1859, chr: 06 Nov 1859, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Ole, birth: 25 Dec 1861, chr: 04 Feb 1862, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Tinius, birth: 15 Jan 1864, chr: 07 Feb 1864, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Andreas, birth: 29 Jan 1867, chr: 03 Feb 1867, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Johanne, birth: 13 Sep 1869, chr: 13 Sep 1869, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway, death: 1869
Anne Johanne, birth: 25 Oct 1870, chr: 02 Nov 1870, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway

#27 Narve Trulsen (71) died 22 May 1843. Residence: Moen paa Medheien.
Source: Buskerud county, Sandsvær, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1840-1856), Death and burial records 1843, page 496-497.

"Bygdebok" litterally means "Township-book", and is a farm history book for the township, written by local historians.
They are normally based in local church records and censuses.

Jan Peter

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 20:45:14
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II have all the kids baptism records I have a account on Ancestry. Plus I fumble Through the parish records.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 20:55:33
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Thank you for Narves Death date The residence is that a farm name or ? Can you figure out if he is the one in 1801 census in Sandsvaer Also I cant find his Marriage record. I found Aslaug's Parent in Kongsberg. Havent looked up their birth records yet.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2013 21:04:55
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Narve Trulsen from farm Finnemyr, his wife Rønnaug is recorded as both Ambrosiusdatter and Olsdatter b. ca 1770. She died on Finnemyr as Rønnev Ambrosiusdatter age 85 April 28. 1855, see #26
Ambrosius was a very rare name in Sandsvær, perhaps she came from another parish (in Telemark?)

Narve and Rønnaugs Children;
- Jon 1804-1807
- Jon 1815
- Anders 1819- died March 24. 1836 when he served on farm Knudsmyr.

Kåre

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 24/09/2013 21:08:53
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This could be them:

Right page, Narve Truelsen & Ronnau Ambiornsdr
Marriage: 30 Jan 1796, Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Source: Buskerud county, Kongsberg, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1795-1816), Marriage records 1796, page 353.

Jan Peter

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 21:21:16
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In the 1801 Census Data it has them listed with 3 Children in Sandsvaer Marie 5 Ingeborg 3 and Ole 1

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2013 21:26:45
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

In the 1801 Census Data it has them listed with 3 Children in Sandsvaer Marie 5 Ingeborg 3 and Ole 1

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 21:28:06
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Also when John who is born in 1815 dies in 1874 Aslaug in the 1875 Census is listed as living with a Ole Narveson b. 1813 but I couldnt find a birth record for him.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 21:55:52
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This site is great Thank you so much.
Kim

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2013 22:08:22
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Also when John who is born in 1815 dies in 1874 Aslaug in the 1875 Census is listed as living with a Ole Narveson b. 1813 but I couldnt find a birth record for him.

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 22:34:16
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So is he John Narvesons brother that is what I had assumed. The family really seems to scatter after Johns death. My g grandfather Tinius Johnson is living with a Thore Pedersen and a Sofie Haldorsdatter in 1875. Dont know if they are related at all.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2013 22:58:32
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Good question.
Seems likely.
We have to find Oles bap. record.

Narve Trulsen was the only Narve in Sandsvær in the 1801 census.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 24/09/2013 23:02:37
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You have been great got to fill in quite a bit of info. I have looked for it before no luck.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2013 23:05:49
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

You have been great got to fill in quite a bit of info. I have looked for it before no luck.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 24/09/2013 23:41:09
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Originally posted by jwiborg

Marriage record #26
John Narvesen Moen (28) & Aslaug Olsdatter (18)
Marriage: 12 Oct 1844, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Jan Peter

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:09:07
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Ok Narves father is Ole Trulesen I cant figure out which one is his mother April 8 Kongsberg 1775 pg 86 cant figure out how to put the link here

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:12:20
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sorry Truels Olson

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:12:59
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Its getting late in Norway.
I have a last question for you reg. your ancestor John Narvesen born Dec. 28. 1815 in Sandsvær.

Have you seen his bapt. record?
His wedding record from 1844 tells he was from Bjørndalen in Jondalen.

Kåre

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:16:00
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Yes; Narve's father listed as Truels Olsen Narverued. Mother not listed.

Jan Peter

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:17:22
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I have his baptism record I think I have the right one i have seen it under Sandsvær

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:22:29
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Goodnite thanks for the help
Kim

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 00:35:32
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

I have his baptism record I think I have the right one i have seen it under Sandsvær

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Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 25/09/2013 06:43:42
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Ambrosiusdatter vs Olsdatter

They might both be right. I've had that happen when a father has a pronounced middle name, for instance Carl Johan. Sometimes the children are called Carlsen and sometimes Johansen and even Carljohansen.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 10:54:44
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Kobbervoldene was a copper mine in Sagrenda population center ca 3 Miles from Meheia and the same distance to Kongsberg.
This coppermine was mentioned 1490.
The name of the mine is "Der Verlorne Sohn" in German, The Lost Son .
There were a large imm. of German miners to Kongsberg from ca 1624 so many of the mines has German names.
- We can assume that Narve Trulsen was employeed by the mining company before 1801.

Not sure what Rønnaug`s lastmane was;
Anbjørnsdatter (spelled Anbiornsdatter), Ambjørnsdatter, Ambrosiusdatter or Olsdatter.
- She died on Finnemyr rec. as Ambrosiusdatter

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 16:12:21
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Originally posted by jwiborg

This could be them:

Right page, Narve Truelsen & Ronnau Ambiornsdr
Marriage: 30 Jan 1796, Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Source: Buskerud county, Kongsberg, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1795-1816), Marriage records 1796, page 353.

Jan Peter

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 16:42:10
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Thats what i was just going to say maybe the Priest in Hedenstad couldnt spell it and put olsdatter instead.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 16:47:33
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I wanted to thank you on the information on the area the mining and the churches are quite interesting. Was looking at sites last night that i could get to translate. They have a music festival at the church in
in Kongsberg that looks quite beautiful.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 17:00:22
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The Family that moved to the United States all married into Swedish family's My father learned Swedish before he learned English. Its called New Sweden and the place is very steeped in tradition still. It was founded
In 1872 Barbro Marie was the first to move there in 1873 She had somehow met and married a Swedish man Bengt Svensson Landin. The Landin Family says they were married in Sweden I can find him Immigrating to Norway
between 1868 and 1870 he goes back and forth. There daughter Alma is born in March of 1870 in Norway according to U.S Census Data. But I cant find them marrying in either place.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 18:37:35
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Question I was going through the 1801 Census Ambiørn seems to be a womans name did they ever take their mothers name if they were Illegitimate?

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 18:43:21
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Thats what i was just going to say maybe the Priest in Hedenstad couldnt spell it and put olsdatter instead.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 18:46:28
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Question I was going through the 1801 Census Ambiørn seems to be a womans name did they ever take their mothers name if they were Illegitimate?

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 19:09:40
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No one sems to know where Narve Trulsen came from. Narve-Narverud?
I have seen his last name spelled Narve Tordsen.
Narverud is a farm in Eiker parish, neighbor parish to Kongsberg.
I also belive is was a farm Narverud, a sub farm under farm Rønningsdalen in Gransherad, neighbor parish to Jondalen whics also has a Narverud farm.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 19:12:52
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I think its strange that his mother isn't listed in his baptism record?

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 25/09/2013 19:33:45
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

I think its strange that his mother isn't listed in his baptism record?

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 19:56:35
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Narve Trulsens fathet was Truls.

A Truels Olsen Narverud married Gunor Knudsdatter Nattestad from Nattestad in Veggli in Numedal on Sept. 12. 1749.
3. column 20-21 line from top, click here

If someone can find a Narve Trulsen b. ca 1775 plus/minus in Kongsberg we can be almost sure it is your Narve Trulsen.

Now I saw you had found him on page 2 Jan Peter

He was the only Narve Trulsen in Kongsberg/Sandsvær 1801.

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 20:05:46
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Narve Trulsen Narverud was confirmated in Kongsberg church April 11. 1790, link

The origin of Truls Olsen Narverud was probably Narverud in Gransherad.
A Ole Narvesen from Narverud in Gransherad/Jondalen had a son Truls Olsen b. ca 1715 married to Gunor Knudsdatter.

Source; A discussion in Norwegian ref. to Gransherad Bygdbook link

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 20:15:21
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The link for Narves baptism is on her under Truels Olsen its back a page. I cant figure out how to do links I think you might have found his mother

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 20:19:27
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

The link for Narves baptism is on her under Truels Olsen its back a page. I cant figure out how to do links I think you might have found his mother

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 20:29:59
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wow you are good at this you have no Idea how much I appreciate this Thanks again

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 21:06:21
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You are welcome.

Found this page, it confirm the info above.
Truls Olsen Narverud had 3 siblings. 4 children.
Owner: Per Evensen, Norway.

Reg. Nattestad;
Gunor Knudsdatter Nattestad was probably a sister to Ole and Anstein Knudsen Nattestad who em. to USA 1837.
Lots of pages about them online, here is Ole link.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 21:18:35
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Those listed are Truels children with Gunnor Knudsdatter she died in bef. 1763 the conversation from what i could make out of it with google translate said he remarried a Mari Olsdatter., b 1730, d after 1827.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 21:25:08
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Those listed are Truels children with Gunnor Knudsdatter she died in bef. 1763 the conversation from what i could make out of it with google translate said he remarried a Mari Olsdatter., b 1730, d after 1827.

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 25/09/2013 22:01:17
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I found Truels second marriage its in Kongsberg 1763 Sept 10 To Ingebore Marie Andersdatter can you decipher the farm name next to her.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 22:43:46
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Ingebor Marie Andersdatter Bæyer/Beier Bæver ? (means Beaver)
Bæver/Bever is one of the few remaining farms in Kongsberg, ca 1 mile north outside the centre.Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 25/09/2013 22:50:39
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You are right about Kongsberg church from 1740.
Very beautiful and Norways largest church with seats for 2400 persons in 3 floors, with the poorest on the 3 floor in the old days, but its place for 4000.
The church on Sunday was mandatory.
It happened that some went to sleep, but guards with long 3-4 yards long sticks some careful "knock-knock" to your head

There were several uprisings among the miners, delayed wages, poor food, moldy grain etc to full price among the merchants.

Today the limit inside the church are 1100 persons because of safety due to fire.

Kongsberg Jan. 2. 1768 Truels Olsen Narverud was godfather in to Børger Olsen Moens son Lars.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 28/09/2013 01:43:23
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I know I have seen Moens before, Aslaug's Dad Ole Ingebectson has Moen after his last name he was married in Kongsberg March 11 1820 To Marthe Arnesdatter cant find his or Marthe's birth record?

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 16:41:14
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Ole was from Løcha, todays Løkka and Marthe Arnesdatter from Rønningsdalen when they married march 11. 1820.
Best men: John Moen and Christen Brua.
Right page #11
Rønningsdalen and Løkka are farms in Jondalen.

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 17:20:25
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Marte Arnesdatter, Ole Ingebretsens "kone" wife age 58 died on Moen on Medheien (Meheia) June 18. 1846.
Under Moen paa Medheien its written; NB. acl.....in Kongsberg ?
#36

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 28/09/2013 18:02:37
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Thanks Kåre awsome as Usual !

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 28/09/2013 18:23:20
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On Ancestry. com the marriage is registared in Kongsberg and Gansherad

Marthe Arnesdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 11 mar 1820
Marriage Place: Gransherad, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Ole Engebreth
Spouse's Gender: Male

Marriage Date: 11 mar 1820
Marthe Arnesdr
Age: 29 years
Gender: Female
Birth Date: Ca.1791
Marriage Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Spouse: Ole Ingebretsen
Spouse's Age: 25 years
Spouse's Gender: Male
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1795

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 18:56:23
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They married in Kongsberg.
I believe Ole was born in Jondalen/Granshera.
The 1865 census for Sandsvær;
Ole Inbrektsen born in Gransherad supported by the welfare agency and his wife Sønnev Hansdatter b. in Sandsvær on farm Knudsmyr.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 28/09/2013 19:00:23
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So he must have remarried, would that be a poor house or poor farm kinda thing.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 19:52:05
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Yes, he remarried with widow Sønnnev Hansdatter.
Civil status in 1865; "Inderst" lodger on Farm Knudsmyr with his own household.
Ole was very poor, a poor-pauper.

The owner Kristoffer Andersen was a wood-cutter for the Silver Mines

I will look for his 2. marriage and his birth record.
I have a feeling this is Ole Ing. on farm Rønningen in Gransherad 1801.
Parents: Ingebret Johnssen and Asloug Guleksdatter

Food and coffee time.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 28/09/2013 20:30:33
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Seems to be a theme of woodcutters from the silver mines probably not very profitable. I think i read somewhere that if you were a crofter on a farm this would apply to my Original ancestor John Narveson that you needed to be a couple
to stay on the farm. He was married to a Barbro Ellefsdatter had one son Andreas and then I think his wife Barbro died in childbirth with the second child..Then soon after he marries Aslaug Olsdatte Ole Ingebrets daughter.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 21:07:52
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The reason there were so many wood-cutters.
This was before the dynamite, so almost all the forest in Kongsberg was cut down and the mining company had to get outside the town to provide enough wood for the Fire-setting

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 21:15:41
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Barbro Ellefsdatter b. 1816 died in a child birth on Moen, Meheia, March. 14. 1842 age 25 #16

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 21:46:18
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Back to Ole Ingebrektsen.
He married a 2. time to widow Sønnev Hansdatter Jan. 17. 1857.
The record confirms he was born in Gransherad, farmname Løkka (Løcha) and that his father was Engebrekt Johnsen Løkka #4
Ole Ingebrektsen on farm Rønning in 1810 census for Gransheard is the correct Ole.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 28/09/2013 22:27:06
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Trying to put in my new Data into Ancestry it is down again as usual. Time for me to go get food and Coffee Thanks again Kåre!
Kim

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 28/09/2013 23:43:22
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You are welcome.
Ole Ingebrektsen Knudsmyr died as "fattiglem" poorpauper on Hofsmoen Feb. 20. 1870 #

Hofsmoen is a farm in Ytre (outher) Sandsvær, Efteløt.
Knudsmyr was also a farm in Ytre Sandsvær.

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/09/2013 00:56:09
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Seems to be a theme of woodcutters from the silver mines probably not very profitable. I think i read somewhere that if you were a crofter on a farm this would apply to my Original ancestor John Narveson that you needed to be a couple
to stay on the farm. He was married to a Barbro Ellefsdatter had one son Andreas and then I think his wife Barbro died in childbirth with the second child..Then soon after he marries Aslaug Olsdatte Ole Ingebrets daughter.

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 29/09/2013 19:16:04
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Barbro Maria, birth: 24 Mar 1845, chr: 15 Jun 1845, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway she married Bengt Svensson Landin either in Norway or Sweden their oldest daughter Alma is listed on U. S census data as being born in Norway. they had 8 children Aslaug Olsdatter died at her funeral Jan 1894 they are buried together in New Sweden Aroostook county Maine. Her and Bengt were the first to arrive in 1873 . I dont know what year Aslaug came over but i have a picture of the headstone and heard the story of her dying at Maria funeral she is also listed as delivering some of her grandchildren on birthrecord's

Marthe Gurine, birth: 31 Jul 1846, chr: 13 Sep 1846, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway this one i think dies there is a later one b. 1851 with the same name she stays in Norway marries a Nils Martin Olsen Goli b. abt 1870 in the 1900 Census they have 2 Children the age difference is strange. Also she has a Illegitimate son Ellef in 1872.

Narve, birth: 04 Feb 1848, chr: 30 Jul 1848, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway think he stayed in Norway and married . Not sure

Rise Kattrine, birth: 01 Sep 1854, chr: 05 Nov 1854, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway she married Carl Olsen from Asker their oldest daugther anne was b.1883 in norway they had 8 children lived in New Sweden.

Berthe Karine, birth: 25 Jun 1857, chr: 28 Jun 1857, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway she married Petter Sandstrom from sweden they were married in New Sweden they had 4 children.

Anna Sophie, birth: 05 Sep 1859, chr: 06 Nov 1859, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway she married Andrew Fritof Zetterman fr. sweden married in New Sweden Maine they have 5 Children.

Andreas, birth: 29 Jan 1867, chr: 03 Feb 1867, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway I am not positive about him but I think he marries in Worschester Massachusetts to a Petra Olsen fr. norway and goes by the name Andrew. Johnson he immigrated in 1882 with my g grandfather Tinius and Ole.

Johanne, birth: 13 Sep 1869, chr: 13 Sep 1869, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway, death: 1869

Anne Johanne, birth: 25 Oct 1870, chr: 02 Nov 1870, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway I think she dies in 1878 I need to look that up.

Ole, birth: 25 Dec 1861, chr: 04 Feb 1862, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway my Aunt remembers him he never married and had a small house on my g grandfather's farm.

Tinius, birth: 15 Jan 1864, chr: 07 Feb 1864, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway this is my G. Grandfather he married In Worcester Massachusetts Augusta Horm she is from Trosa Soder Sweden they had 8 Children one being my grandfather Gilbert Johnson b. 1908
Most of the Children of the ones that Immigrated had very large familys, they all ended up in New Sweden Maine if you look at the census records for 1900 its very easy to trace the family they are the only Norweigans in Town everyone else is from Sweden. My Dad grew up in New Sweden I spent many summers there as kid It was like going to a different country my grandparents spoke swedish they celebrated misdsommer they had a large farm family heritage was a very big thing. If you look up Maines Swedish colony they have a web site. Thanks Kim

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 29/09/2013 20:27:14
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Im not really religious but there is just something about churches you can just feel the history. I have a picture of the church in Hedenstad on my family tree for John Narveson on Ancestry.com. I have picture's of Tinius and also the Landin family if I could figure out how to post them.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/09/2013 20:30:48
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson


Marthe Gurine, birth: 31 Jul 1846, chr: 13 Sep 1846, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway this one i think dies there is a later one b. 1851 with the same name she stays in Norway marries a Nils Martin Olsen Goli b. abt 1870 in the 1900 Census they have 2 Children the age difference is strange.

Narve, birth: 04 Feb 1848, chr: 30 Jul 1848, Hedenstad, Buskerud, Norway think he stayed in Norway and married . Not sure

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 29/09/2013 20:50:59
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Once in awhile Ancestry has something on Norway, it has Ellef marrying Petra Ollete Antondatter Jan 30 1898 in Hof .Found the marrige record. no census record. What is really strange under the death records same area they have a son Torevald Ellefsen who dies on on the 19th of Jan 1898 right before their wedding.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 29/09/2013 21:19:22
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found the marriage record cant find them in the census?

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/09/2013 22:51:35
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

found the marriage record cant find them in the census?

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/09/2013 22:58:14
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Ellef and Olette on farm Buen østre (eastern) in Hof with 4 children 1910

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 29/09/2013 23:04:04
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Alf Ellefsen
Death Date: 1 Apr 1973
Burial Date: 6 Apr 1973
Burial Place: Lardal, Vestfold, Norway
Age: 73
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1899
URL: http://www.disnorge.no/gravmin. sends me to a Nowegian site about cemetarys but none of it is in English this is from Ancestry.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/09/2013 23:44:33
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Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Alf Ellefsen
Death Date: 1 Apr 1973
Burial Date: 6 Apr 1973
Burial Place: Lardal, Vestfold, Norway
Age: 73
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1899
URL: http://www.disnorge.no/gravmin. sends me to a Nowegian site about cemetarys but none of it is in English this is from Ancestry.

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 29/09/2013 23:52:12
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Othilie Torstensen
Death Date: abt 1932
Burial Date: 6 Jan 1932
Burial Place: Larvik, Vestfold, Norway
URL: http://www.disnorge.no/gravmin. dont know if this one is any good its from ancestry too. I cant figure out how to navigate that site.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 30/09/2013 00:17:00
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Must be about midnight there thanks again goodnight thanks again
Kim

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/09/2013 09:59:13
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Good morning. Yes it was passed midnight in Norway.
"Gravminner" Tombstones in Norway

A project based on volunteers from the genalogy association Dis-Norge to capture and record all tombstones in Norway and get them published is going on.

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/09/2013 10:08:58
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His wife Dorthea, occ, a little work, supported by the municipality and widow on Hvamsal, a stepson Peder and a dau. Anna in 1900
- Peder was not a stepson, he was born March. 15. 1879, 11 years before the parents married.

Kåre

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Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 30/09/2013 15:48:27
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Ragna Petrine Hvam 11.05.1909 Ytre Sandsvær is that Anne,s daughter?

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/09/2013 15:55:34
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Ole 1861, Tinius 1864 and Andreas 1867 em. from Finnemyr 1883, left page #14-15-16

Dep. Oslo April 27. dest. Caribou on ship Rollo for Hull, England. Tickets Prepaid.

Correct name of the farm they left was Søndre Finnemyr (Southern Finnemyr)

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 30/09/2013 16:32:47
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Thats interesting I saw that before were they left but the other info is Interesting. As far as I know they ended up living in Massachusetts for about 10 yrs Cairbou is about 20min by car from New Sweden. There used to be a railway that ran right through to Aroostook County Maine and the small towns. They were Potato Farmers it would bring people up and Potato's back which they made a lot of money doing for awhile. Its sad farming is nothing anymore. The whole are is very Depressed. Tinius works at a factory in Worcester Mass then he marries and moves to New Sweden then he works in a Mill. Destoying the forest was also huge money for awhile. Then he takes over his wifes parents farm. Marie Barbro his sister came over when they were giving family's 100 acres each. A small home and a 5 acre clearing.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/09/2013 19:45:21
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From Meheia to Oslo 1883;
Depending on how much they had with them, horse and carrige or on foot.
They were probaly followed by friends or family to Kongsberg where they took the train to Oslo.
Kongsberg Station

Rise Catrine and Karl Olsen Haugmo/Omholt em. with a daughter Anna Marie b. 1882,.
They lived on Gulsplasen in Ytre Sandsvær 1883 as "Inderst" lodgers with their own household and em. 1884.
With them em Rise Catrines sister Anne Sofie Johndatter Waal and her dau. Johanne Olausdatter b. Mai 10. 1882. Her father was roadworker and bechelor Olaus ?? from Sweden.
Se bottom left page #7-11

Waal todays Hvål was probably the farm Anne Sofie worked on in Efteløt, Ytre Sandsvær.
Dep. Oslo July 25. for all 5 , dest. was Corilam?? on ship Rollo. Tickets prepaid, link

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 30/09/2013 21:30:34
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There is No 1890 census which is the one that would have most of my family just arriving so it makes it hard trying to figure out what they where all up to untill 1900. Anna Sophia married a Andrew Fritof Zettermam 1886 his real name was probably Anders and I have all of there children down as of 1900.and after.no Johanna. But above them is Aslaug Olsen that must be when she came over they must have had Cairbou, Maine down as a destination. Do you have a link for the Johanne Olausdatter that one has me confused.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 30/09/2013 21:34:40
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Rise and Carls daughter Anne married a Andrew Erickson their son Oscar married my Grandmothers sister so I am doubly related to that Ericksson family. My tree can be like a braid it was a small rural community.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 30/09/2013 22:53:40
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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?show=29&uid=282149&urnread_imagesize=full&hode=nei&ls=1&lc=x%259CK%25B42%25B2%25AA.%25B62%25B4R%25CAT%25B2.%25B62%25B1R2120%25001%2581B%25C5J%25D6%2599VF%2596%25D6%25B5%2500%25BF%250A%2509%25B3 I cant figure out how to make a hyperlink but i think this is Johanna Baptism record is there anything you can translate its the bottem one.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/09/2013 23:13:52
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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?show=29&uid=282149&urnread_imagesize=full&hode=nei&ls=1&lc=x%259CK%25B42%25B2%25AA.%25B62%25B4R%25CAT%25B2.%25B62%25B1R2120%25001%2581B%25C5J%25D6%2599VF%2596%25D6%25B5%2500%25BF%250A%2509%25B3 I cant figure out how to make a hyperlink but i think this is Johanna Baptism record is there anything you can translate its the bottem one.

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/09/2013 23:24:43
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I have a correction;
The forest lake Sandtjern/Sandtjenn/Sandtjønn and Bjørndalen (Bear valley) I thought was in Gransherad are located to Medheien/Meheia, sorry.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 01/10/2013 18:15:41
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Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 01/10/2013 18:22:59
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Her father is road worker bachelor Olaus (no patronymic name) from Sweden.

There is no 100% complete transcription of the Norwegian 1875 census online anywhere.

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 05/10/2013 20:20:22
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I added source info to all my images on my tree didn't know about the cool drop down box on the parish records it was tedious but at least now I have a record of where I got them. I have looked for a birth Record for Rønnoug Olsdatter /Ambiornsdatter what is the proper spelling for her first name cant make it out in her death record 1855. Its Rønnev in the 1801 Census. Cant tell from the marriage record in 1796. its Rønnau in the confirmation 1795. The spelling I have comes from someone elses research. Also her death date would mean she was born in 1770 the Census it would be 1780 and if she was confirmed at 15 like most other ones I have looked at that would suggest 1780. Never mind all her different Last names. Ambjørnsdatter, Ambrosiusdatter or Olsdatter. any help would be appreciated. Thanks Kim

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 05/10/2013 21:55:31
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I believe Rønnaug Ambiørnsdatter/Andbjørnsdatter/Ambrosiusdatter was born in Kongsberg, she was confirmated in Kongsberg April 12. 1795 and she married in Kongsberg 1796.
Born between 1775-78?
I have spend some time looking for her without any luck, maybe I have overlooked her.
There were two Ambrosius in Kongsberg that interested me;
Ambrosius Nielsen Landsverk m. to Goro Olsdatter and Ambrosis Jørgensen Berg. d. ca 1779, but no sign of a daughter Rønnau.
I can make a new search tomorrow.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 06/10/2013 01:47:34
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Thanks I will keep looking also. Thanks Kåre

Kim

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 06/10/2013 23:44:01
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This is a blind track;
just mention it if you should find them in the church book from Kongsberg.
Ambrosius Danielsen Sauer married to Anna Tjøstelsdatter, they came to Kongsberg from Heddal parish, Telemark county with a dau. Ingeborg b. 1777 and bap. a daughter Christine Marie June 21. 1783 in Kongsberg, moved from Kongsberg to Eidanger/Porsgrunn in Telemark county 1784 where young Christine Marie died.

Both Ambrosius and Anne died in Porsgrunn.

Kåre

Reply author: Kimberly Johnson
Replied on: 11/10/2013 18:16:51
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I have been trying to find out anything about a Thore Ambiornsen he is a wittness to at least 2 of Narve Truelsen and Rønnaug Ambiørnsdatter Children Ingebore baptized April 7 1778 and Ole June 20 1813. Kongsberg
Maybe that could be Rønnaug's brother? Still looking
Kim

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