Mobeck, Olsen, Vik, Rood from Nes Romerike

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Topic author: Vick
Subject: Mobeck, Olsen, Vik, Rood from Nes Romerike
Posted on: 15/12/2004 03:54:00
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I'm looking for any ancestors with the surnames Mobeck, Olsen, Vik or Rood from the Askershus area. My grandfather, Lars K. Vik and his brother, Knute Vik, came over to the U.S. approximately 1900 or 01 on the Norge from Kristiana. Lars K. Vik dob was 10/22/1884. Their father's name was Knut Vik, and I believe they may have had two sisters. I have no other information about the family they left behind in Norway.

I'm also looking for an ancestor named Osgim or Asgrim Rood/Ruud/Rud, who apparently has an interesting history. He spent his money foolishly, and then decided to burn his farm buildings down and collect the insurance money to pay his debts. His crime was discovered and he was thrown in prison. In the meantime, his wife, Helga, and his children, including Syvert Rood/Ruud/Rud (my great-grandfather) came to the U.S. to Hatton, North Dakota, where Helga stayed with her brother, Ole Berg until Osgim was released from prison and sent to the U.S.

The Edward and Berthe Maria Mobeck family also came from Akershus, Nes Romerike, from the Holter farm and Mobekk area??? They also settled in the Hatton, North Dakota area. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

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Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 15/12/2004 16:23:03
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It is important to know when these persons were each born and when they emigrated from Norway. You can often use the information in the US censuses to get at least approximations of these dates. I'm not from North Dakota and unfamiliar with where Hatton is located - what county? Because of these limitations I decided to quickly search a US census index for Mobecks born in Norway - the least common name and hopefully easier to locate.
The 1900 US census shows Edward and Berthe Mobeck to be living in Newburg township, Steele County, North Dakota - but the two children still living at home (of 7 children still living?) were both born in Minnesota so earlier information should be found in that state. Edward and Berthe are both listed as born 1834 in Norway, married for 42 years and emigrated 1868/1869. So the couple should appear as married in the 1865 Norwegian census - possibly in Akershus area. (You'll want to go through more of the US censuses yourself to collect more detail.)
The 1865 Norwegian census shows a very interesting married Edward Olsen and Berthe Marie Eriksdatter living in Eidsvoll, Akershus on a farm by the name of Baarlidahlen.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0237&kenr=007&bnr=0027&lnr=000

A quick look at the 1865 Norwegian census for Næs district in Akershus does list a farm by the name of Mobæk and several Holter farms.
If you are seeking earlier family tree information for the 'Mobeck' family I'd recommend that you research in the records for Næs in Akershus, Norway. A great resource is the LDS Family History Library and checking their library catalog shows that they have microfilm copies of many of the early records available for your use. Note: their catalog lists the district as Nes in Akershus - so be sure and use that spelling when checking the library catalog.

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 16/12/2004 17:12:30
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Thanks so much for the help! I do know the birthdates, etc. of everyone. Should I post them? And are there any resources where I could validate the story about Asgrim Ruud? I read about him in the book "Grass of the Earth" by Aagot Raaen, a writer from Hatton who mentions many Norwegian surnames of folks living in the area. For more information, check the Traill County, North Dakota genealogy web site at rootsweb. - Vick

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 18/12/2004 02:46:01
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There is a good canidate for Asgrim in the Aal Bygdebok Click Here
9. Ola Olson Ruud 31.08 1794-1862
G 1822 m Gunvor Asgrimsdtr. Rue 1803-1858. Barn: Birgit 1823- gm Johannes Embrikson Håkonset-Eggen; Birgit 1825- gm Ola Olson Moen-Sudndalen; Pål 1826- til 'Det Trondhjemske'; Anne 1828- gm Isak Faksvåg, Kristiansand; Ola 1831- til Am., teaterskreddar gm ... ... ; Guri 1833- til Am. gm Ola Levorson Rueslåtta; Asgrim 1835- til Am. gm Helga Olsdtr. Berg;
He is in the 1865 census for Aal, Buskerurd on the Haugen farm Click Here
He is in the North Dakota naturalization records as filing his 1st papers in 1885 so he would have emigrated some time between 1866 and then.
Carla

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 19/12/2004 07:40:43
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Here are Lars & Knut "Wik" in the emigrants from Oslo Click Here They are from Vestre Slidre in Oppland. Here is a possibility for their parents in the 1900 census
Click Here on the Vik nedre farm. There is no way to know for sure without more information. Have you gotten copies of marriage and death certificates and naturalization records. North Dakota naturalization records are indexed on line Click Here
Finding out their mothers name would help confirm if this is the correct family.
Carla

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 21/12/2004 00:19:16
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Oh my gosh -- thank you everyone for your excellent resources!!! Lars K. Vick (my grandfather) was born on 10/22/1884 in Vestre Slidre, Valders, Norway (per his naturalization records, recently obtained).
He arrived in the U.S. on the SS Norge through Kristiania on or about June 14, so the individuals listed above must be him and his brother, Knute. On his application for social security benefits, he listed his mother's maiden name as "Anna Markegaard." On his death certificate, however, his mother's maiden name is listed as "Anna Larsondaller " (the spelling is illegible!).

On the Ruud side of the family, my great-grandfather, Syver(t) Rood, has his name often listed as S.A. Rood. His middle initial is "A," however, no where does it indicate what his full middle name might be. Do you think it might be Asgrim? Syver's date of birth is 12/11/1871.

Again, thank you all for the information. Just through this web site I've learned more about my family than in several years of research!

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 21/12/2004 14:38:32
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About Syver(t) Rood - yes, it would be quite likely that his use of the middle initial A would be a remnant indicating the original patronymic name Asgrimsen - Asgrim's son.

You can find some good articles about typical Norwegian naming practices in this collection of helpful articles about doing Norwegian genealogy research. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 21/12/2004 18:37:51
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An even better article on Norwegian naming practices, I believe, is on this site - Those Norwegian Names.

Reply author: larry
Replied on: 18/01/2005 03:09:49
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I am doing some research on my wife's family. Her maiden name is Vick, originally Vik. They are from the Valdres area of Norway. Her great grandparents immigrated prior to the Civil War. The family parish is Vestre Slidre and there are still members of the family living in the Vik Farm across the fjord from Vestre Slidre. We have a fair amount of geneology information. We visited the farm about 20 years ago and other members have been there since. We have a number of very good pictures. It would be hard to believe there is not some connection.

Larry

Reply author: larry
Replied on: 18/01/2005 03:11:26
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I am doing some research on my wife's family. Her maiden name is Vick, originally Vik. They are from the Valdres area of Norway. Her great grandparents immigrated prior to the Civil War. The family parish is Vestre Slidre and there are still members of the family living in the Vik Farm across the fjord from Vestre Slidre. We have a fair amount of geneology information. We visited the farm about 20 years ago and other members have been there since. We have a number of very good pictures. It would be hard to believe there is not some connection.

Larry

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 18/01/2005 17:09:29
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Larry:

It would be awesome if there were some connection between my Vik family and your wife's family. My grandfather was Lars Knute Vik from Valdres, Vestre Slidre Norway. He had a brother named Knut(e) who emigrated with him to the United States on July 1, 1900. Their father's name was Knut Vik. I have a postcard that he sent my grandfather and it has a picture of a "Vestre Slidre Kirke, Valdres" on the cover. There's an address imprinted on the postcard of 222Eneberettiget 1910 Aune, Valdres. It's written in Norwegian, so of course I can't read it. I once had someone translate it and they said that he said something about Lars' sisters not being in good health.

I'm thinking that the Vik family consisting of Knut, Anna (wife/mother) and Guri, Kirsti, and Maret might be my grandfather's family from Valdres. The boys, Knut and Lars had left the country of course. Lars' birthday was 10-22-1884. Does anyone in your wife's family match? Please write back! - Vick

Reply author: larry
Replied on: 18/01/2005 20:06:29
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This sounds more and more like a connection. My wife's grandfather was Albert Vick from Spring Grove, Minnesota and his parents were Endre Vick born Sept. 7 1855 in Vestre Slidre and Kjerste Traan from Rollag, Norway. Endre's parents were Arne Vik and Ragnel. Kjerste's parents were Gunder Traan of Rollag and Anna Aarwold of Numedahl. Endre had several brothers; "Big" Knute, "Small" Knute and Nels. His sisters were Ragnild and Kjristi. The farm is on the south west shore of Slidrefjorden. When I figure out this web site I will down load some pictures.

Larry

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 18/01/2005 23:24:55
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This is an excellent organization that could help you in your research:

http://www.valdressamband.org/

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 24/02/2005 20:21:10
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I recently learned that upon arriving to America, my grandfather, Lars Vik, and his brother, Knut, stayed with a cousin (and his/her family) in Decorah, Iowa. I have no idea who this cousin might be. Apparently Knut later returned to Valdres. Any thoughts, Larry, JoAnn, Hopkins or Brining? Thanks so much!

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 25/02/2005 00:21:58
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Any thoughts about what? Exactly what are you looking for?

I thought the findings by Brining in Dec of 2004 were quite interesting - what became of that when you investigated in more detail?

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 26/02/2005 05:10:30
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Yes, Brining's information/link from Dec. turned out to be very interesting -- I believe the Vik family listed in Valdres in 1900 was indeed my grandfather's family. But I'm wondering if you have any suggestions on how to find information about ancestors in Decorah, Iowa around 1900. It's kind of frustrating that my great-grandma's name isn't very helpful in identifying a possible cousin that Lars and Knut stayed with. But I'll keep plugging away. I couldn't have gotten this far without the excellent help from this forum. Thanks!

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 27/02/2005 18:40:02
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Decorah is located in Winneshiek county, Iowa. 1900 US census for that county would be good start. Iowa also conducted state censuses in 1895 and 1905 and you can order them at any LDS Family History Center. The LDS library catalog further indicates that they have many many records for Winneshiek county for topics including cemeteries, centennial celebrations, church records, court records, land and property records, military records, naturalization and citizenship, obituaries, probate records, public records, taxation records and vital records.... That's always a good place to start.

Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 27/02/2005 19:13:08
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The Decorah Geneology Society works together with the Winneshiek County Historical Society and will do research for a fee. They have been extremely helpful to me in the past:

http://www.harveyshobbyhut.com/genealogy/about_decorah_genealogy.asp

Reply author: larry
Replied on: 05/07/2005 01:30:51
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Decorah Iowa is the home of the Vesterhiem Norwegian Museum (Google it to find their web site) which is an excellent research source. There is an online data base for Norwegian Civil War participants but other searchs must be conducted by mail. Luther College in Decorah has a large archive of local newspapers. There are still Viks in Decorah but they may trace their heritage to Sogn and not the Valdres area of Norway.

Reply author: cmobech
Replied on: 23/10/2007 17:15:12
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Originally posted by Vick



I'm looking for any ancestors with the surnames Mobeck, Olsen, Vik or Rood from the Askershus area. My grandfather, Lars K. Vik and his brother, Knute Vik, came over to the U.S. approximately 1900 or 01 on the Norge from Kristiana. Lars K. Vik dob was 10/22/1884. Their father's name was Knut Vik, and I believe they may have had two sisters. I have no other information about the family they left behind in Norway.

I'm also looking for an ancestor named Osgim or Asgrim Rood/Ruud/Rud, who apparently has an interesting history. He spent his money foolishly, and then decided to burn his farm buildings down and collect the insurance money to pay his debts. His crime was discovered and he was thrown in prison. In the meantime, his wife, Helga, and his children, including Syvert Rood/Ruud/Rud (my great-grandfather) came to the U.S. to Hatton, North Dakota, where Helga stayed with her brother, Ole Berg until Osgim was released from prison and sent to the U.S.

The Edward and Berthe Maria Mobeck family also came from Akershus, Nes Romerike, from the Holter farm and Mobekk area??? They also settled in the Hatton, North Dakota area. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

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Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 24/10/2007 08:17:16
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Maybe it is of interest for you to see the christening record for your grandfather, it is #8 - why the corrections were necessary is difficult to say - he was babtized May 24 1885.
His parents Knut Knutsen and Anne Larsdatter were married April 7 1881, see #1. The mother came from the farm Markegard, Hemsedal in Hallingdal.
Knut Knutsens christening record is most likely #65 his parents being Knud Knudsen and Guri Eriksdatter, Vik farm. They were married April 12 1849, see #10. Knuds father was Knud Tollevsen and Guris father Erik Gulbrandsen.
Anne Larsdatter was born Dec 15 1847, her christening record is #8 and her parents were Lars Pedersen and Kirsti Olsdatter at the Markegaard farm.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 24/10/2007 14:39:38
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Asgrim and Helga also had a son Erik in 1869, see #9
and a daughter Guri in 1866, see #35 on the right hand page.
The two sons in the 1865 census is #38 and #25.

They married in 1862, see #29
Asgrim was born in 1835, see #25 his parents were Ole Olsen and Gunnor Asgrimsdatter at the Sletto farm
and Helga in 1841, see #74 her parents were Ole Syversen and Guri Syversdatter at the Berg farm.

Reply author: BobVick
Replied on: 03/01/2008 04:46:32
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I am part of the Vick-Vik DNA project. Our Joseph Vick arrived in America in 1660 yet matches Norway DNA. If any of you are interested please contact me or Google the Vick DNA Project,
https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=Z97027&special=True

Many of the names listed in the post here come close to matching Vick-Vik-DNA.

Cheers, Bob Vick
Family searches are all proven through DNA

Reply author: KimWing
Replied on: 16/12/2009 04:21:00
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Vick - I am doing research on the Ruud family for a dear friend. Her gg-grandfather was Asgrim Ruud. Were you ever able to confirm the prison story? Do you have any more information on this family? Her g-grandfather was Eric and grandmother was Clara Ruud. Hope to hear from you!

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 16/12/2009 19:16:14
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Hi,

Is your interest in Asgrim Olson Ruud b. 1835 d . 1917? His son Erick was born in either 1868 or 1869 in Hol, Hallingdal and died in Larimore, North Dakota in 1949. Erick A. Ruud married a woman named Karen Marie Thoreson. They had boys Mervin Ruud, Clarence Ruud, Albin Ruud, Roy Ruud and a girl named Clara who married Clarence Moe and lived in Grafton, N.D. Some of the children of Asgrim and Helga went by Ruud and Syvert (Sever, Sjugard, etc). went by Rood. Syvert married a Marie Mobeck and they lived for many years in Foster county, North Dakota. Erick was employed on the Great Northern Railroad.

As to the story about imprisonment of Asgrim a source for that is in Folk og Fortid i Hol, volume IV page 115 by Sigurd and Lars Reinton, 1973. It also mentions that Helga wrote the King to release her husband and that after that he was released eventually Asgrim also migrated to America.

Jackie M.

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 18/12/2009 17:34:32
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Hello and thank you for your interest in my great-great grandparents, Asgrim and Helga Berg Ruud! My great-grandfather was their son, Syvert Rood (Ruud) who was a blacksmith in Grace City and McHenry, North Dakota. He and his wife, Maria Mobeck Rood are buried in Bethlehem Cemetery outside of McHenry. Just a few weekends ago I visited Middle Grove Lutheran Church in Mekinock, North Dakota where Asgrim, Helga, Paul and Fred Ruud attended since 1885. They are also buried there, and one of the members of the current congregation sent me a list of the Ruud family church records. I learned of Asgrim being imprisoned when I read the book "Grass of the Earth" by Aagot Raaen about pioneer life in the Hatton, North Dakota area. She referred to an Asgrim "Rud" and it wasn't hard to put two and two together!!!

Erick Ruud was one of their sons. I am in contact with one of Erick's great granddaughters. The sad story about Erick's family is that his son, Raymond, was murdered. In 1935, he was 20 years old and was a cab driver in Grand Forks (only 2 weeks on the job) when someone shot him in the back of the head and tossed him beside the road. He was found dead the next morning, and the murder was never solved.

I have lots more information and would love to learn what you may have!

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 19/12/2009 01:50:50
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Hi,

Am curious about the children of Asgrim and Helga. Holsboka says they had 13 ( sort of confirmed in the 1900 US Fed. census, Helga is listed as mother of 14, 8 living). Names are given as (additional information given in parentheses not in Holsboka):

Ola Asgrimsen b 1862 (d. 1934, Ole A Ruud)
Pål Asgrimsen b. 1864 (d. 1890, Paul A Ruud)
Guri Asgrimsdtr b. 1866
Guri Asgrimsdtr b. 1868 (d. 1934 Gertie or Gertrude Rood, gm Nels Dahl)
Erik Asgrimsen b 1869 (d.1949 Erick A. Ruud)
Sjugard Asgrimsen b. 1871 (d. 1942/43, Sever Rood)
Olaus Asgrimsen b. 1872
Knut Asgrimsen b. 1875 (d. 1910; Knut Asgrimsen Ruud)
Gurine Anne Asgrimsdtr b. 1881
Frederick Asgrimsen b.(1888 d. 1949)
Laura b.
Martin b.
Wallace b.
Gina Asgrimsdtr b. (1887 d. 1908)

It's the second Guri we find in America. Here is her baptismal:

Source information: Buskerud county, Ål, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1865-1881), Birth and baptism records 1868, page 24.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5914&idx_id=5914&uid=ny&idx_side=-24
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061102350834.jpg


In the obits of Fred Ruud and Eric Ruud the sister Laura who survived them is found as Laura Martin of Wallace, Idaho. It makes me curious that the Martin and Wallace listed in Holsboka might be a "muddying up" of Laura's married name and residence information. Have you found other names for the children born in the U.S?

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 19/12/2009 07:37:29
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His son Erick was born in either 1868 or 1869 in Hol, Hallingdal and died in Larimore, North Dakota in 1949.

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Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 20/12/2009 05:50:53
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Hi,

Yes, baptismal from Norway cited earlier in string indicates 1869 birthyear for Erick, but some records in U.S. indicate 1868.

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 21/12/2009 08:31:37
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Yes, baptismal from Norway cited earlier in string indicates 1869 birthyear for Erick

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Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 21/12/2009 17:54:26
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Hi eibache,

A little bit testy today, aren't we?

My Webster's indicates that the word indicate has four meanings and usages, two of which include the word "show."
Methinks we have a distinction here which has no difference!

Re Erick, the records I've seen in America show his birthdate as 20 Dec 1868. Such a birthdate is not physically impossible (the next oldest sibling Guri was born on 1 Feb 1868) and until the entire span of church registers and all other records here and there are examined, it might be better to keep record of the two dates so one or the other can be eliminated at an appropriate time. There may be a reason for the US records to have the year of 1868, perhaps a mix up on some other record lead to this idea--it's a situation worth noting & exploring.

Family history is always in a process of being perfected but seldom is in a perfect condition, like the situation with Guri 1866/ Guri 1868 above.

Glædelig Jul!

Jackie M.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 21/12/2009 18:33:00
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I do not intend to discuss the English language and the right wording, just point at my lack of a wider understanding found in the Webster dictionary. My understanding is based on "indicate" in the following meaning of the word:
when referring to facts: peke på, vitne om, tyde på, vise til, antyde or avsløre.
Sorry for not being more professional.
- and a Merry X-mas to you too, Jackie!

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 21/12/2009 20:55:42
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Hi eibache,

No harm, no foul!

I'm still interested in the names and vitals on the kids in Asgrim and Helga's family....

Jackie M.

Reply author: Vick
Replied on: 31/03/2010 21:23:51
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Greetings! I have not checked this forum for a while and have much to report. In December 2009 I found the graves of Asgrim and Helga Berg Ruud and their son, Paul. They are buried at Middle Grove Church Cemetery in Meckinock, North Dakota. I also was able to visit inside the church where they were members until they died. I took photos of the graves as well as the inside of the church.

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 21/06/2010 20:14:51
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Hi,

When you were at Middle Grove church did you, mayhaps, look at the church register? I am curious about the daughter Laura. There appears to be some discrepancy about her birth information. In the 1920 census of Wallace, Shoshone County, Idaho her age is listed as 29, birthplace as Norway and the year of her migration to America is given as 1893 and that she was naturalized in 1898. In this census she is living with her husband Joseph Martin b. abt 1887 in Canada and their son Joseph Martin Jr. age 3 yrs, 4 months b. Idaho. In the 1930 census she is listed a proprietor of a beauty shop, born in US with a different birth year, living with Joe Martin but no Joe, jr..

From 20 June 1934 (when she was elected to the post) to about 1950 she held a position in the Hallinglag of America as "distrikt formaend" for Idaho.

What I am curious about is if she was born in U.S. or if she was born in Norway. Since the mother Helga and at least some of the children migrated to US in the mid-1880s, Asgrim the father came later.

Within the family, have you heard of this sister?

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

Reply author: jkmarler
Replied on: 21/09/2010 22:25:32
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Hi,

From the Grand Forks HeraldThursday, 12 May 1927, page 7, col 1:

"H. Ruud, Long Resident of Grand Forks Died Tuesday
.... Herge Ruud, 86, who has
...in Grand Forks county since
...when she first arrived in this
...ry from Norway, died at the
...of her daughter, Mrs. Nels
...on Lincoln street, late Tuesday
...

... . Ruud settled at Middle
... northwest of Grand Forks,
...85, and lived there until about
...years ago when she moved in-
...s city.

...ee sons, Ole of Michigan, Eric
...Fred of Grand Forks, survive
...along with three daughters,
...Nels Dahl of Grand Forks, Mrs.
...Swanson who lives in Michi-
...Mrs. Joe Martin of San Fran-
...Cal.; a brother Severt Burg,
...onia, Minn.; and another
...er and sister who reside in
...ay."

The microfilming was apparently done from a very tightly bound copy.
The service announcement in the Friday, 13 May 1927 issue, page 10, fared a bit better:

"Mrs. H. Ruud To Be Buried on Monday

The funeral of Mrs. H. Ruud, who died last Tuesday, will be held on Monday at 11 a.m. at the Hanson-Anderson chapel, and at 2 o'clock in the afternoon from the Middle Grove church.

Rev. O.T. Ness will be in charge of the first service and Rev. O.A. Aase will conduct the church services."

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

Reply author: Nygård
Replied on: 30/10/2014 21:23:21
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Originally posted by Vick





The Edward and Berthe Maria Mobeck family also came from Akershus, Nes Romerike, from the Holter farm and Mobekk area??? They also settled in the Hatton, North Dakota area. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

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Reply author: Chillvick
Replied on: 07/08/2015 22:51:50
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Hello Nygard! I just saw your post about your great-great-great-grandmother Lina/karoline. I've been hearing that it was commonplace for children to be born out of wedlock. My great-great grandfather, Edward (Edvart) Mobeck was born April 4, 1834 in Nes Romerike, Akershus, Norway and died July 1, 1920 in Hatton, North Dakota, US. He married Bertha Maria Kvernhaugen November 12, 1857 in Nes, Romerike, Akershus. In 1869 he and his family (4 daughters) came to the United States, where 3 more children were born, one of whom was my great-grandmother, Maria Mobeck. Edward and Bertha's oldest child was Anne Mobeck, born August 9. 1858. Edward's father was Ole Olsen. I would be happy to send a photo of Edward to you. He did have a sister named Karoline who also left Norway and moved to the state of Utah. It would be so interesting if we had a common ancestor!

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