Edward Iverson

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Topic author: Wally
Subject: Edward Iverson
Posted on: 27/06/2003 23:46:56
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Hi,
I am trying to learn a little about Edward Iverson. I imagine he was Norweigen.
What little I know is that he married my Grandmother,Mathilde Severson. They settled someplace in Iowa.
Together, they had 4 children: Alvin, Clarence, Mabel, and Edward. In fact, when Edward died, Mathilde, or Mathilda as she was called in the States, was 2 or 3 months pregnant with their 4 child Edward, who was born in 1902.
Wally

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Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 28/06/2003 22:46:10
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Hi,
Does anyone have any info on his passage to the States, e.g. what ship he was on, and who he traveled with?
Wally

Reply author: ninakarls
Replied on: 29/06/2003 22:18:21
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There are so many Edward Iversons. You need to find the census record for 1900 to establish his birth year!

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 30/06/2003 01:06:26
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Hi Wally,
do you know which city or county Edward & Mathilda lived in?
You say "someplace in Iowa..."
There some free censuses to search through here, but there are a lot of data to go through if you don't know the county...

And here are some online databases for Iowa, but they all require subscription... Iowa Marriages, 1851-1900 could be an interesting database, IF they got married in Iowa. There was 0 matches for Mathilda Severson...

Here you can find people who can do Iowa genealogy lookups.

Jan

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 30/06/2003 02:39:08
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Jan,
Thanks for the help. By here I mean Lake Mills, Iowa.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 30/06/2003 02:57:31
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Jan,
I don't know how soon after she made the trip that my grandmother changed her name (Anglised) it. When she first came in 1881, she was called Mathilde Sivertson.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 01/07/2003 23:21:27
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Jan,
A minor correction, while the family lived in the Mason City, Iowa, area, my half uncle was born in Lake Mills, Iowa, about 6 months after Edward Iverson died.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 13/08/2003 23:25:25
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Hi Jan,
Lately I found that my grandmother, Mathilda Severson, was Edward Iverson's second wife.
I know some very young children died shortly after or before Edward died. However, I don't know which union they came from.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 21/08/2003 23:13:16
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Hi all,
At the time of his death Edward and Mathilda lived on a farm northeast of Amund. I looked at a map of Iowa, and the place doesn't even show up.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 08/05/2004 22:59:44
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Hi all,
I finally found where Amund, Iowa, is. It is roughly 2 miles south of the Minnesota/Iowa line. Thus at the time time of his death Edward Iverson was living in Winnebago county. Checking on a map I have, I would guess he would be burried about a mile south of the state boundary.

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 09/05/2004 02:09:10
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If Edward Iverson was a farmer 'near Lake Mills' he might have actually lived in either Winnebago or Worth County Iowa. Lake Mills is very close to the county line between the two. I can't locate an Amund, Iowa in either county (and I thought I had a excellent detail map of Iowa, maybe it's too new). There is an Emmons just across the state line in Minnesota.
Approximately what year was Edward born? (a tombstone date will be just fine). While you are at it - what year did he die?
I'd like to be able to find the family in a US census which might give us a year for his emigration from Norway...
Ah HA! The 1900 census shows Edward Iversen living in Winnebago County, Center township. Born 1860 in Wisconsin (both parents born in Norway), wife Mathilde born 1875 in Norway, three very young children in the home. The occupation is very hard to read but I'd guess that he works in a Creamery.
So - if he was born in Wisconsin - there will be no emigration record.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 13/05/2004 19:41:07
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Hopkins,
Thanks for all the help. Yes, he did indeed work in a creamery. Amund Iowa was a tiny hamlet, so to speak, in 1901 or so. It was just 2 miles south of the Minnesota, Iowa line. That would put it in easy walking distance of Emmons, Minnesota. My grandmother and him lived in a house north east of Amund. That would just be shortly in Iowa. Looking at a map of the area, which I received from another source, Amund would lie in Eden County, Iowa. Looking at the map of Eden township, I see in section 15, there is a church. I wonder if that isn't where he is burried.
Wally

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 13/05/2004 21:27:06
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For the bicentennial some years back quite a few Iowa counties historical groups did complete cemetery lists. I've found quite a number of those lists duplicated to LDS microfilm. Check in the LDS library catalog for the topics available under the County name.
I've also found LDS microfilm copies of the earliest church records of a tiny Norwegian-Lutheran church that I had interest in - that was a couple counties further west. Another tiny 'hamlet' hadn't allowed the LDS library system to film their old church records, and I had to visit to read them.
The county death records might also be on LDS microfilm.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 13/05/2004 23:54:49
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Hopkins,
First of all please excuse my term of the "hamlet". By that term, I mean a small town one would have a hard time finding on any Iowa map. One the map I have, Amund used to be located in the Eden township just opposite of Lincoln township where Rake is located. I found Eden township on the internet, and it is just accross the state line from Minnesota.
I am not trying to be purielent. After all, all the parties are dead. However, I would like to know the names of his parents who came from Norway, when he married his first wife, and where he is burried.
At the time of his death, he was survived by his wife, a brother, John, a child by his first marriage, Nellie Hellen Iverson, who lived in Emmons, Minnesota, and 3 children by his second marriage, Alvin, Clarence, and Mabel. My grandmother was also pregnant with their last child Edward Andraes Miller Iverson.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 14/05/2004 01:14:01
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Hopkins,
One final thing, on map of Eden township, I noticed a church located in section 15. I wonder if there isn't a cemetery there.

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 14/05/2004 02:23:43
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I don't think there is any reason to apologize for the word 'hamlet' - a tiny rural town can be called worse. I came from one - and it doesn't bother me. We were 'a one horse town', 'a dot not even on the map', etc etc.. We were lucky to have a post-office.
You'll find many small cemeteries in that type of area. I could take you to a small cemetery just a county or two south of where you say Amund was and point to another less than half a mile away, invisible to most - but I know how to drive the little passway through the corn fields to get to the other - most people don't. But in a published centential history of the local Lutheran church(es) they had a map to all the nearby cemeteries and I learned of two more less than 2 miles away... I'll have to visit them next trip back home to the area (but yes, the bicentennial published lists have helped me decide which will be of value).
Have you yet checked the information on the LDS library catalog for the Iowa county you are interested in? I really think the County death records might have clues as to the parentage of Edward Iverson... but keep in mind that Edward wasn't the person who answered the questions about his parents for his death record...
This particular forum is excellent for questions about ships and emigration. You should think about expanding your queries onto such forums as RootsWeb, Genealogy.com, etc. - you could post questions on boards specific to that Iowa county where you have questions, a general question to the Norway board. Don't forget to get off the internet and check out the resources available at your nearest LDS Family History Center.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 14/05/2004 03:08:19
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Hopkins,
I have come accross a web page listing the names of cemeteries in Winnebego County, Iowa. I found one for Amund, Iowa, located on R60 between Vinje and Rake On the map Amund is about a mile south of Fairbault, Minnesota.
As for the LDS, I have restricted access to them in my state.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 14/05/2004 03:17:05
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Hopkins,
Before I forget myself, I must say that the Norweigen language at that time was constantly changing itself. Instead of having surnames the son usually adopted the name of his father. Thus I would guess his father first name was Iver. His name was then changed to Iverson, or the son of Iver. If a daughter was born, the name datter was tacked on to her name, so she became Iverdatter.
I came accross this conclusion, when I was researching my grandmother Mathilde/Mathailda Severson.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 15/05/2004 22:52:27
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Hopkins,
Before I went over this, I looked at the material I have from a contact in Lake Mills, both paper and internet generated.
I have known all my life that he worked in a creamry, but I also see he is a tenant farmmer in Center township. I have a list of material sold at the estate sale, and it backs that up.
However, now one mystery arises: if he lived in a house northeast of Amund, he would have to go quite far to farm. Also, it begs to answer now where he is burried.

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 16/05/2004 06:53:46
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Originally posted by Wally

Hopkins,
Before I forget myself, I must say that the Norweigen language at that time was constantly changing itself. Instead of having surnames the son usually adopted the name of his father. Thus I would guess his father first name was Iver. His name was then changed to Iverson, or the son of Iver. If a daughter was born, the name datter was tacked on to her name, so she became Iverdatter.
I came accross this conclusion, when I was researching my grandmother Mathilde/Mathailda Severson.
Wally

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Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 17/05/2004 21:19:40
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Hi, I am trying to find out the names of the parents of this Edward Iverson, both who were born in Norway. I would like to trace them to America.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 01/06/2004 04:45:14
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Hi,
I would also like to know at least where this Edward Iverson of Winnebago county is burried.
Wally

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 01/06/2004 07:07:21
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Your best bet would be to contact the Winnebago county Genealogy Society and see if they have any information. Click Here
Carla

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 02/06/2004 03:50:23
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Brining,
Today I did just that. However, the lady in charge of genealogy for that area and with whom I have received a good deal of my information suggested I try Albert Lea, Minnesota.
For whatever reason, a number of my Norweigen ancestors have debarked there on way to Lake Mills, Iowa.
Wally Rutter

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 15/06/2004 02:35:45
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Hi, I tried contacting Albert Lea Minnesota, but I have had no response. I am still waiting, but I would really appreciate any sleuths who can help me find where he is burried.
Wally

Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 15/06/2004 19:44:12
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Wally Try joining the Norway-L mailing list. Lots of helpful people with resources in US and Norway.
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html
If you join the list and post a query it would help to refer to your posting here, that way they don't have to do "double the work"
Carla

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 08/07/2004 01:16:34
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Carla,
I joined the site above, and at first got a few useful leads. Now my inbox is usually full of Norweigen questions I know nothing about.
However, one of the persons I contacted suggested I try Fillmore County, Minnesota as both of his parents died there. I sent an e-mail to a contact, but as of yet haven't received a reply.
I also sent a letter and a check for $10 to Des Moines asking for a death certificate. However, today I got a letter with my check saying I could not see the certificate as I was not a blood relative. That doesn't matter that the my family and the Iversons have always been like blood.
I also know at the the time of her father's death Nellie Hellen Iverson was living in Emmons, Minnesota. I sent an e-mail to that county, but as of yet have to receive a reply.
Carla, do you have any other ideas where I can follow up?

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 08/07/2004 14:51:33
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The LDS library catalog indicates that vital records for the counties you've mentioned (Winnebago, Worth and Fillmore) are ALL on microfilm. Have you ordered those films yet?
If he died in a hospital - the closest Iowa hospital I can think of during that time period would be in Cerro Gordo County (Mason City) so you might check for their death records too if the others don't pan out.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 08/07/2004 21:45:20
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Hopkins,
Using the LDS site on my computor, I came accross the man who I think is my Edward Iverson. He was born on 1858 in Wisconsin. Using census from my own blood line, I can see that is a ball park figure.
As I said before my grandmother was his second wife. Using the same LDS site I see he was married to an Alette Julie Bergersen or Alletta Bergeson on June 30, 1887.
Her father was Berger Pedersen, and her mother was Amalie Christiansdr/Christiandatter.
They were married in Freeborn, Minnesota.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 12/07/2004 20:15:13
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Hopkins,
Using some material a contact from Winnebago County, Iowa, I came accross an interesting piece,e.g. his body was taken to the cemetery by a new hearse owned by a man man named Skuttle. Looking accross some written information she gave me, I saw on the probate record that some money was paid out to an undertaker by the name of M O Skuttle. Quite by accident, I came accross him, and learned that he died in 1928 and was burried in St. Ansgar, Iowa. While I know he didn't operated from the base of Winnebago County, I am seeking to learn if he operated from the base of Worth County.
Wally

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 15/07/2004 19:41:12
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Hopkins,
On my grandmother's probate I came accross a Dr. O A Hausen. Is there any record of such a doctor practing in Winnebago County, Iowa, in 1901?

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 19/07/2004 23:29:27
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Hi all,
Please excuse my repition, but my post for M O Skuttle was started because I was looking over a piece from the probate. A certain sum was paid out to a M O Skuttle, Undertaker. I know from the other link he operated a general store in Buffalo Center, Iowa. There was also a doctor bill on the probate, but I could only guess at the name.
Wally

Reply author: iverskat
Replied on: 15/08/2004 07:09:15
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Hi-being an Iverson and am also looking up info for a family tree.. i can suggest the Decorah<Iowa archives as well as many Norweigens settled there. Burr Oak, Mn. has a cemetry that is historical.

Reply author: terje148
Replied on: 08/09/2005 00:15:57
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I am looking for a Mathilde or Mathilda who may be went from Kristiansand. Her last name was Larson, but her fathers name was Monsdatter. she was born about 1873 or 1875. Her parents passed away when she was only 8 years old. I have been looking for her for years. May be there are some one who is able to find her?

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 08/09/2005 00:19:59
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Originally posted by terje148

I am looking for a Mathilde or Mathilda who may be went from Kristiansand. Her last name was Larson, but her fathers name was Monsdatter. she was born about 1873 or 1875. Her parents passed away when she was only 8 years old. I have been looking for her for years. May be there are some one who is able to find her?

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Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 23/12/2006 17:49:37
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Getting back to my origal topic, does anyone know if there was an undertaker by the last name of Skullie in Winnibego County in 1901

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 23/12/2006 21:21:29
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Try checking the 1900 US census for Winnebago Co., Iowa. You might find a possible in Buffalo Center on Sheet 9A (stamped as page 197).

You changed the spelling from Skuttle to Skullie? the possible in the index is M.O. Skutle. In 1900 the households with that surname appear in Minnesota and Winnebago Co. Iowa - with the majority in the Iowa county.

http://www.pafways.org/genealogy/societies/winnebago.htm

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 23/12/2006 23:34:11
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What would the job of "undertaker" have involved in rural northern Iowa in 1901? perhaps selling a casket and/or providing a funeral carriage/horse-drawn hearse that would carry the deceased to the cemetery? That certainly would not seem to have been a full-time occupation in such a location in 1901. Those services might have made sense for a furniture store owner, perhaps even a general store owner.
The modern "undertaker" or mortician services as we Americans have come to think of them are quite recent - not really generally accepted until at least the1920's according to one historical website I was able to find. That website also said that the science of modern American embalming services was developed during the US civil war to allow the shipping of the war dead back to their families but did NOT automatically become a service in broad demand.

The particular history of that service in the Winnebago County Iowa area?? You should contact a local historical or genealogical society in that area or someone involved in that type of business today who may have an interest in local history.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 24/12/2006 20:21:13
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Hopkins, Thanks for your insight. Now that you have put me on some more leads, I will have to look up this M. O. Skuttle. I believe he had some sort of store in Forest City.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 19/09/2007 00:42:17
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Hopkins and all, One last question. Of course I know about his and my grandmother's offspring. However, I am wondering if he had any siblings. It seems that somehow I remember he had a brother by the name of John. Finally, if possible could you give me the name of his parents.

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 19/09/2007 04:38:31
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Your information about a brother that appears on the Internet -
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/iawinneb/2006-12/1166887527

If you go back to the archives of the Norway-List you'll find that someone gave you information that the daughter, Nellie, was living with her uncle and his father and mother in the 1900 US census. You look at that census - you should have the name of Nellie's Iverson grandparents. That poster gave you a LARGE amount of information but you never responded.
Search the archives of the Norway-List -- http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 24/09/2007 05:59:11
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Hopkins and all, please forgive me if I have been a little slow to act. I have been trying to be deliberate so the people in Iowa can fully remember/ find what happened to a man who died over a century ago.
Today I have sent the folks in Forest City a packet containing a wide variety of information.
Oh, by the way, I don't know it he ever had a stone, but I would bet good money that he is burried in the Bethel Cemetery in dVinje, Iowa. His daughter by his former marriage and a brrother is burried there.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 24/09/2007 18:34:20
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Hopkins, One last question: Both the father to Edward and his brother John was Ole Iverson. In Edwards brief obituary he is listed as being survived by his wife and his brother John. Could John have the first name Ole?

Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 25/09/2007 23:44:49
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You already asked your "last question" on 19 Sept 2007 (see above). I have no more answers to your questions.

Reply author: Wally
Replied on: 16/10/2007 18:49:10
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Hi all, please forgive me if I get a bit to repetive, but if Edward is burried in Iowa, he is burried in an unmarked grave in either the Trinity or Bethel Cemetery in Vinjie.

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