Amund AMUNDSEN & Elise LARSDATTER: Grue to NZ
Started by NearNorsewood · 2008-05-17
NearNorsewood · 2008-05-17#1
This thread is a follow-on from the thread:
Roald AMUNDSEN (1872-1928), Norwegian Explorer
/forum/roald-amundsen-1872-1928-norwegian-explorer/
The information I have on Amund AMUNDSEN and Elise LARSDATTER is posted here:
www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz/amundsen-amund-descendants/
This includes several generations of ancestors.
I have been researching the journal of Sylvia MURCH for several years. The journal also makes the claim of a close biological relationship between Amund AMUNDSEN and explorer Roald AMUNDSEN (that Amund was Roald's paternal uncle).
I have made contact with a woman who is related to Roald AMUNDSEN. She has done extensive research on Roald's family, but CANNOT find any common ancestry between Amund and Roald.
The genealogical information I have (follow above link) also confirms this.
Siblings of Amund AMUNDSEN emigrated to Australia. A descendant of Amund's sister (who was known in Australia as Kate) has correspondence from Noel MURRAY saying that he met someone in the extended family who knew who fabricated the story of Roald's relationship to Amund. However, she would never disclose the story-teller's identity.
Unless there is an in-law type of connection, then it's unlikely they were related at all.
I think it is important to understand that Norwegian immigrants brought to NZ under Vogel's immigration scheme were all dirt poor, and were, basically, brought to NZ as white slaves to clear the bush, and establish road, rail, and telegraph infrastructures - jobs the Brit's didn't want to do.
The Scandinavians weren't treated any better than Maori by the British and, in New Zealand's class-conscious British colony, many Scandinavians fabricated stories about their families aimed at elevating their social status. The book Johanna's World describes the PASO family's fabricated claim to be descended from French aristocracy (p11-12). Similar fabrications were COMMON among poor Norwegian immigrants, including one of my ancestral families.
It's possible that's what has happened here.
Other threads mentioning Amund AMUNDSEN's family can be found here:
How far is Borge from Grue?
/forum/how-far-is-borge-from-grue/
'JOHANSEN HOLT' family to NZ/Sylvia MURCH in Oz
/forum/johansen-holt-family-to-nzsylvia-murch-in-oz/
(AMUNDSEN family's relationship to JOHANSEN family.)