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lands
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Posted - 01/10/2003 :  21:40:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
We am trying to trace the ancestors of Halsten Olsen STOEN (b) 1796? on the Stoen farm, Nems, Nor. (d) ? USA, who married Ingeborg HARALDSDATTER (b)1798? Nems, Nor (d) 1854? USA. Left Norway 1850 aboard the Drafna, with their 4 children Randi, Ole, Harald and Kari. We have almost all the info we need on the USA side but need help with the Norwegan side.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Steve and Lisa

Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2003 :  02:02:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know of no Nems Norway. The closest I come in the 1801 census is Næss, Buskerud with an Ingeborg and Halsten approximately the right age. Halsten is not on the Støen farm but there are Støen farms located in Næss and he could have lived there before emigrating
Carla
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
868 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2003 :  06:05:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like it might be them. In the LDS Vital Records Index for Norway Nes (Næss) Buskerud, Halsteen Olson and Ingeborg have 3 children listed
1. Kari HALSTEENSDATTER - Vital Records Index
Gender: F Birth/Christening: 16 Jun 1835 Nes, Buskerud, Norway
2. Ole HALSTENSEN - Vital Records Index
Gender: M Birth/Christening: 03 Sep 1837 Nes, Buskerud, Norway
3. Gunnild HALSTEENSDATTER - Vital Records Index
Gender: F Birth/Christening: 03 Nov 1841 Nes, Buskerud, Norway

And I think your Randi has a gender identity crisis. On the LDS IGI
he/she is a girl. Randi These records are submitted by individuals and after looking at the records I'm not sure how acurate the information is, they have Kari born 1824 and Gunnild born 1822. The VRI are the transcripts of the actual church records so should be the most acurate. The only way to know for sure is to look at the microfilms of the church records.
When searching on the LDS just fill in the parent search fields.
Carla
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2003 :  06:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi again, On your first post you mentioned Tosten H Stoen. The Stoen name comes from the farm they lived on in Norway and there could be several families, unrelated, living on the same farm so Tosten may not even be a relative. I know, for many years we had an "Aunt" who was no relation We didn't find out until a few years ago
Carla
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lands
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Posted - 02/10/2003 :  16:26:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thx Carla for the quick response.
None of the names that you provided seem to match the ages as listed on a scan of the actual passenger list :( Their ages were listed in 1850 as Randi 25, Ole 21, Harald 19 and Kari 15.
The Randi name did present a slight problem for us for some time till we found his headstone stating "Son of Halsten and Ingeborg".
We have since found out that Tosten (b) 1854 (d) 1910 was a grandson of Halsten.
Thx again
Lisa and Steve
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Brining
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USA
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Posted - 03/10/2003 :  02:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am pretty sure that the Halsteen and Ingeborg in the 1801 census are the ones you are looking for. There are only 8 Ingeborgs and 15 Halsteens that are close in the census. Of those only in Næss, Buskerud is there a Halsteen and Ingeborg both living.
Also Halsteen is on the Hovde farm and in first Nes Book III it lists under the Hovde farm * Hovdestøen/Støen so by the time Halsteen left, the farm could have been called Støen. Farm names do change and evolve over time in Norway.
I think Randi and Kari on the IG are also correct the ages are within one year. Gunnild probably died before they emigrated. I found that the batch only lists females (and they assumed that Randi was female) so Ole and Harald weren't there but again the only way to prove this is to rent the microfilms.
Carla
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lands
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Posted - 04/10/2003 :  05:33:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and thanks again you people are GREAT :)
After studying up on the Norwegian way of naming their children (which we should have done ages ago) and obtaining more information thanks to you people and some relatives here, this is finally all starting to come together. Our next endeavour is to try and find out when Halsten Olsen married Ingeborg *Olsdatter Rudolfine* we think that it would probably be early in the 1820's any information would be greatly appreciated.
* was listed wrongly on previous posts.
Again thank you very much .
Steve and Lisa
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lands
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Posted - 04/10/2003 :  05:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ooops DOH,
Some interpretations of
Mand, Hans Kone,1 gang, 2 gang, deres born/barn and husmand med jord.
would be of great help if we could get them.
Thx
Steve and Lisa
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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 04/10/2003 :  09:40:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mand = husband, Hans Kone = his wife,1 gang = 1st time, 2 gang = 2nd time, deres born/barn = their children, husmand med jord = cotter with land.
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