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luellastilley
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 Posted - 30/12/2008 : 05:02:55
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| I have been told that Steie is Americanized from Stedje. I believe that Erik came from the Sogndal area and possibly Kari also. They would have emigrated prior to 1875, probably in the 1860s. I know that they had a son, Carl/Charles Erikson, who was born about 1854 as he was 21 in 1875. Any information would be helpful. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/12/2008 : 10:04:50
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Erik Steie could have been Erik Nielsen who married Kari Johannesdatter April 12 1853 in Sogndal. Erik was then on Stedje, but was born on Fosshougen 36 years earlier. Kari came from Hæggeteig and was 32 years old. see
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Any more info from US, approx birth year, other children, etc. |
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Edited by - eibache on 30/12/2008 15:49:44 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/12/2008 : 19:17:28
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I think this could be the right family Einar, espesially if Carl was born in USA.
They emigrated in 1856 from Fosshaugen with two sons, Niels and Jens, right page #101-104
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eibache
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Posted - 30/12/2008 : 20:04:54
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Yes it was Niels who was the first child, born May 16 1853, see #66
I was looking for Carl/Karl but did not find him in 1854, Jens however was born Sept 26 1854, see #110
Carl must have been born in the US then. |
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Edited by - eibache on 30/12/2008 20:11:35 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/12/2008 : 21:36:06
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The pronunciation of farm Stedje in Sogndal dialect is Steie.
Source: Sogndal Sogelag v/leiar 26. 09. 2005 - Sogndal Historian association by the leader Sept. 26. 2005.
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eibache
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Posted - 31/12/2008 : 05:44:44
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Erik Steie was born Nov 6 and baptized Nov 10 1816, see top of right hand page
his parents were Niels Andersen Stedje and Onni Torkildsdatter.
His mother Onni Torkildsdatter died in childbed, she was burried Nov 13 1816 and was 22 3/4 years old. See next record on same page.
Widower Niels Andersen and Onni Torkildsdatter married Oct 29 1813, see lower part of left hand page
Kari Johannesdatter was baptized at home the same day she was born, Jan 22 1821, this was confirmed in church Jan 28, see lower part of right hand page
her parents were Johannes Johnsen and Kari Jensdatter Hæggeteig.
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eibache
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Posted - 31/12/2008 : 06:15:43
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Onni (=Unni) Torkildsdatter and her parents Torkild Erichsen and Sigri Johannesdatter and Unnis siblings in 1801
Unni was baptized Jan 26 1794, see left hand page, 3rd record
Niels Andersens first wife was Sigri Torkildsdatter, see 1801
Sigri Torkildsdatter was baptized Dec 25 1780, see next to last record in right column on left hand page
her parents were Torkild Erichsen Wenæs and Sigri Johansdatter, Niels Andersens wifes Unni and Sigri were sisters!
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eibache
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Posted - 31/12/2008 : 07:32:21
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Johannes Johnsen and Kari Jensdatter Hæggeteig were married Oct 30 1820, see top of right hand page
Kari came from Brusegaarden, see 1801
her parents were Jens Thomasen and Kari Pedersdatter.
Johannes came from Hægeteig, see 1801
his parents were Jon Johannesen and Kari Olsdatter, he was baptized April 21 1799, see right hand
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Kåarto
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Posted - 31/12/2008 : 15:16:51
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In 1801 Stedje cosist of 7 farms and two sub farms.
Stedje was in the middle age a noble farm, in 1608 owned by the noble man Gjøde Pedersen about 1580-1650, likley from Denmark.
Gjøde was very disapproved by the Sogndal farmers, they complained to the king and brought him to court.
He was judged for the accusiations and lost his position.
Picture from the upper part of Stedje from 1880, left in the photo is Stedje church and more pictures down including links to the church "Stedje kyrkje" and a link to the Runic stone with the incription " King Olav shot between the stones".
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Edited by - Kåarto on 31/12/2008 17:47:14 |
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luellastilley
Junior member
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Posted - 02/01/2009 : 07:21:08
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I’m confused. Our information doesn’t connect. This is the information that I have:
Erick (Erik) N. Steie is listed along with Kari Johannesdatter as the parents of Carl on his Marriage Register (6 July 1875 in Central Freeborn Lutheran Church, Freeborn County, Minnesota).
According to family Carl Erikson Steie was born in Sogndal on 26 Sept. 1854. His death certificate states that his mother’s name was Karen Olson--could this be an Americanized Kari Johannesdatter?
Erick N. Steie is listed on the 1880 U. S. Federal Census in Bancroft, Freeborn County, Minnesota. Age listed as 63, birthplace as Norway (This would put his date of birth about 1817, which is what you have said. Maria is listed as his wife and is 60 yrs of age, birthplace is Norway.
1900 U. S. Federal Census has Erick N. Steie living with his son and is 83 yrs. old. There is no mention of Maria. |
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eibache
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Posted - 02/01/2009 : 08:55:50
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According to family Carl Erikson Steie was born in Sogndal on 26 Sept. 1854. His death certificate states that his mother’s name was Karen Olson--could this be an Americanized Kari Johannesdatter?
Kari Johannesdatter = Karen Olson? - very unlikely.
Carl born Sept 26 1854 in Sogndal, the parish records show no Carl or Karl born in Sogndal. Family info should be scrutinised. |
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luellastilley
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Posted - 18/01/2009 : 21:36:14
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| Einar, I have been studying the information you gave me. Jens and Carl have the same birthday. Is my assumption correct that the family may have changed his name upon immigration to lessen confusion? I'm checking our immigration records for information about the other boy, Neils. |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/01/2009 : 22:05:57
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Erick (Erik) N. Steie is listed along with Kari Johannesdatter as the parents of Carl on his Marriage Register (6 July 1875 in Central Freeborn Lutheran Church, Freeborn County, Minnesota).
According to family Carl Erikson Steie was born in Sogndal on 26 Sept. 1854. His death certificate states that his mother’s name was Karen Olson--could this be an Americanized Kari Johannesdatter?
Evidence of your suggestions/assumptions can only be found in the US.
No fathers name on the death certificate?
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Is my assumption correct that the family may have changed his name upon immigration to lessen confusion?
Would a given name Jens cause confusion?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/01/2009 : 23:10:40
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This is serious business, it must be correct, if possible, to me it looks like only one answere is missing;
Jens and Carl Stedje both born Sept. 26. 1854 in Sogndal.
Here is what we have;
- Steie and Stedje is the same in Sogndal.
- There is only one Sogndal parish in Norway.
- Kari was likely changed to Karen in USA.
- Erik (N) Steie married to Kari must be Erik Nielsen Stedje and Kari Johannesdr.
- They emigrated from Fosshaugen 1856, Eriks birth place in 1816 was Stedje but he was from Fosshaugen when he married Kari in 1853.
- Jens Eriksen was born in Sogndal Sept. 26. 1854. Carl Erikson (in USA) was born in Sogndal Sept. 26. 1854 must be the same person. Why and when the name was changed is hard to know, does his confirmation record exist in USA.
Could Jens be understood as a girl in USA?
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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/01/2009 23:12:10 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 00:23:53
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Hi,
Jens as a female name would be highly unusual...
Re the mother's name as Karen Olson: sometimes it happens that the woman's father's name is asked and if her father is a "something Olson" the assumption is that her name Olson also. In America, surnames are inherited from your father...
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eibache
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Posted - 19/01/2009 : 06:41:15
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Kari Johannesdatter was baptized at home the same day she was born, Jan 22 1821, this was confirmed in church Jan 28, see lower part of right hand page
her parents were Johannes Johnsen and Kari Jensdatter Hæggeteig.
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ERIK STEIE/KARI JOHANNESDATER
