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Ian Sampson
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Australia
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 Posted - 18/05/2011 : 20:51:59
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I am trying to find out further information about Arne Lorents Andreas LORENTSEN born 06 Oct 1862 Bergen, Hordaland, Norway. I have also found his name as Arne Lorents Andreas Lorents Mikalsen.
His parents were Lorents Mikal Arnesen and Gjertrud Andrea Andersen.
I believe that Arne Lorents Andreas LORENTSEN may have changed his name on his way to Australia be the same person that arrived in Australia around 1890 as Andrew Anderson. He then lived in Bairnsdale, Victoria, Australia. However I am having difficulty proving this.
I donot know how he arrived in Australia although in his diaries he makes reference to the SS Norge so may have come via the UK.
Any info anyone is able to provide regarding Arne Lorents Andreas LORENTSEN emigrating from Norway would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 21:51:52
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His parents Lornts Mekael Arnesen and Jertine Andrea Andersdatter and two sisters Anne (4) and Johanne (2) in 1865. They were quakers.
If he had been born in 1862 he should have been in the census 4 years old - but it could be that Anne is misspelling for Arne.
The parents Lorents Michael Arnesen, Solheim and Giertine Andrea Andersen, were married Dec 22 1861, see #8.
Anne in the 1865 census was a misspelling, see #29 - the baptismal record for Arne Lorents Andreas Lorentsen.
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Edited by - eibache on 18/05/2011 22:16:56 |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 22:08:33
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His parents married Des 22 1861
His mother died Feb 25 1868 |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 18/05/2011 22:36:01 |
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Ian Sampson
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Australia
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Posted - 19/05/2011 : 01:10:45
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| Thank you both very much for this information. In his diaries he refers to a sister living in the USA (in the early 1900s) who he calls Marie.but there are no other details. I will investigate further to try to establish if she is in fact Johanne. |
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Ian Sampson
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 20:43:25
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| I have tried to find further information about Johanne but I am not able to establish if she may be "Marie" and confirm that Arne Lorents Andreas LORENTSEN is Andrew Anderson. Is there any way of searching people emigrating from Norway in say 1888 to 1890? Thank you |
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Ian Sampson
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 20:19:49
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I have come to the conclusion that Arne Lorents Andreas LORENTSEN is not the same person as my great grandfather Andrew Anderson. This information originally came from another geneology forum. I have located Andrew Anderson's marriage certificate which lists his parents as Andrew Anderson and Maria Tidblad. I believe his date of birth 06 October 1862 is correct.
Andrew Anderson wrote diaries for many years in which he refers to his sister Marie, her husband Andreas and Marie's daughters Anna and Ryborg??. Marie emigrated to the USA. This is all in the period 1890-1920. I still have not got any further finding the family in Norway but will keep looking. Thank you to those who assisted with my query. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 21:42:27
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Could it be this one?
29543 57 Marie Titland, housewife, married, 36, f, Sweden, Manden bortrømt for Flere Aar siden
29544 58 Claus Olsen, her child, ropemakerapprentice, unmarried, 15, m, Hougesund
29545 59 Otilia Olsen*, her child, unmarried, 7, f, Hougesund
29546 60 Andreas Olsen*, her child, unmarried, 3, m, Bergen
A note behind Marie says her husband has runaway several years ago. Marie is born in Sweden
A brother:
Johan Gabriel, born 13-10-1866
Parents Sailor Andreas Olsen & Marie Beathe Tidblad
Source: Bergen county, Domkirken, Parish register (official) nr. B 4 (1859-1871), Birth and baptism records men 1867, page 141.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 22:01:20
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Andreas, born 06-10-18631862
Father: Ship's carpenter and pressumed married man from Laurvik, Abraham Henriksen
Mother: Married woman Marie Beathe Olsen (Husband Andreas Olsen). Her 2nd illegitimate child, about him nothing is known.
Source: Bergen county, Domkirken, Parish register (official) nr. B 4 (1859-1871), Birth and baptism records men 1863, page 100.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 23:20:31
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I'm quite sure this is your Andreas.
It would be nice to locate his sister Marie.
Do you have any additional info about her or her family?
Last name of her husband?
Any approx. y.o.b. for the family members?
Where in the US did they live?
If possible, it would be nice if you could scan the page where you read "Ryborg", and post it here, to verify her name.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 07/07/2011 23:35:58 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 23:36:17
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Small correction:
Andreas recorded as born Oct 6 1862, baptized at home, confirmed in church April 2 1863. (See #121.)
The mother said to be married to sailor Anders Olsen, their marriage was June 7 1858, see #5, she was born in Gothenburg, Sweden 1828 and the full name is Marie Beathe Nicolaisdotter Tidblad.
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Ian Sampson
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 23:43:15
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Thank you so much Jan Peter!! Yes I think this is the one. Little is known about his sister Marie.
From his diaries .
He wrote to Andreas Marie's husband in Norway in 1893
Marie was still in Norway in 1898.
In 1899 he mentions Anna "Marie's girl"
There are diaries missing from there until 1916 when Marie is in Minnesota USA (I believe it was Thief River Falls Minnesota). He then mentions writing to "Maries daughter in Norway Ryborg". This is also 1916.
I know this is not much to work with but you have already helped so much.
Thank you again
Ian
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 23:49:18
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Thanks for the correction, eibache
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jwiborg
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Posted - 08/07/2011 : 16:52:11
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#46, Claus Ludvig Teodor
Born 17-Jul-1851, Chr 10-Aug-1851
Illegitimate child
Parents: Bachelor Lars Olsen & girl Marie Beate Hasseløen
Source: Rogaland county, Skåre in Torvastad, Parish register copy nr. B 4 (1850-1864), Birth and baptism records 1851, page 13.
#78, Otilia Marie
Born 10-Aug-1858, Chr 31-Oct-1858
Legitimate child
Parents: Sailor Andreas Olsen & wife Marie Beathe Nicolaisdtr, Hasseløen
Source: Rogaland county, Skåre in Torvastad, Parish register (official) nr. A 11 (1857-1866), Birth and baptism records 1858, page 13.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 08/07/2011 16:56:31 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/07/2011 : 17:35:26
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I found her! 
Census-1900:
Otilie Marie Andreasdatter, widow, occupation: sewing, ironing etc, born 1858 in Torvestad, Haugesund, Stavanger
Residence: Røine farm, Ørlandet, Sør-Trøndelag
Emigration on 26-Jul-1905:
Othelie Marie Olsen Rønne, widow, housekeeper, born 1858, Residence Ørlandet, Destination Boston, Ticket paid in America
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/07/2011 : 18:40:43
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Hi,
You mentioned Thief River Falls which is in Pennington County, Minnesota. The historical societyof Pennington county has a couple of top-notch databases indexing burials in Pennington cemeterie and newspaper obituaries. You may want to look.
www.pchs.org
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/07/2011 : 19:29:03
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Marie Ronne arrived Boston, Mass on 10-Aug-1905. I think she might be indexed as "Arie O Romse"
Someone with a subscription at ancestry.com should check the original manifest for her final destination. I wonder who paid for her ticket? A daughter Anna?
Jan Peter
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