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jmsteen
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 Posted - 11/04/2013 : 14:57:14
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I'm trying to track down my great-great grand father who apparently went from Norway to USA i 1868.
Lorents Greger was born in Dale, Kvæfjord, Norway Sep 20 1827.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9633&idx_id=9633&uid=ny&idx_side=-71
Although I'm not 100% sure it's the same person, from the records at digitalarkivet.no I am fairly sure it's the same man.
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=em03011867tillegg&gardpostnr=8371&personpostnr=8371#nedre
From the records here at Norway Heritage I've found him again, leaving from Christiania (Oslo), Norway, departure to Hull, England 17 July 1868 with the steamer SS Argo.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/udvandret.asp?type=passengerlist&ps=101667&jo=127
This is where I'm stranded, I can't find him in any other records (perhaps because he used a slightly different name in US?). I have assumed the journey from Norway to England took about 3 days. I would assume he went further to Liverpool by train, and from there to the port of New York.
If the journey from England to New York took about 10-15 days would it be safe to assume he arrived in New York late July or early in August?
I've been looking briefly at the records at
http://archive.org/stream/passengerlistsof0299unit
and
http://archive.org/stream/passengerlistsof0300unit
Can i assume he would be in there somewhere? I find it hard to read without any clue what (and when) I'm actually looking for.
Some written sources says he eventually moved to Chicago, but I have not seen any evidence of this anywhere, nor do I have any idea where they got this information from.
I would appreciate any help where to look further. Any hints on where to look and what sources to use. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2013 : 23:44:35
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There is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com that contains a person with this same name and birth date. He is listed as
Lorentz Greger Christensen Hveding
Birth 20 SEP 1827 in Kvæfjord, Troms-1065554004-1065553846
Married in 1862 to
Anne Maria Johansdatter
Birth 1833 in Sarpsborg, Østfold-1065553844
With three children including
Bernhard Sisilius Lorentsen Hveding
Birth 1864 in Sarpsborg, Østfold-1065553844-1065553784
Found here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=424&idx_id=424&uid=ny&idx_side=-76 See number 41
Unfortunately there is no information in this Family Tree to indicate what happened to him. However the Sarpsborg connection does indicate that you may well have the right person in your emigration reference. |
Edited by - AntonH on 11/04/2013 23:46:38 |
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jmsteen
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Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2013 : 09:37:13
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This is the correct person 
I have some additional information on him at
http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=571300#571300
but this is only concerning his family matters in Norway.
He was indeed married in Sarpsborg, Norway.
They had 4 children there, the last of the four was born July 1 1868, just a few days before he left for America.
It seems though, his wife Anne Marie went to America as well in October 1870, according to a church book:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5772&idx_id=5772&uid=ny&idx_side=-193 (right hand side, No 7)
Only three children are listed with her, so one of the four probably died.
This is new information to me so i will spend the day looking for them as well, to see if there are any trace of them on any ship.
It it of course still of great help finding either of them in any passenger list. |
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jmsteen
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jmsteen
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2013 : 17:48:03
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I have a candidate for you ,
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: M. Ann Whidding
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: New York City, New York, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Washing
Household Members:
Name Age
M. Ann Whidding
46
F. Garrdina Whidding
18
C. Hartwick Whidding
14
I. Gregina Whidding
12 |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/04/2013 17:49:24 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/04/2013 : 17:52:31
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Here is the marriage record of Garodine Whidding to Peter Spangeland at the Italian Genealogical webpage:
Spangeland Peter Jun 2 1889 Kings 1963 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/04/2013 : 18:04:26
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Possible death of Ann Marie
New York City, Deaths, 1892-1902
Name: Anna M. Whidding
Birth Date: abt 1834
Age: 61
Death Date: 25 Dec 1895
Death Place: New York, New York
Certificate Number: 42847 |
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jkmarler
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jmsteen
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Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2013 : 18:50:47
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This is of great help, thanks a lot guys. All of this looks very promising, I might end up having family alive "over there".
Oh, by the way: the 1870 census, doesn't it seem a bit strange? If his wife came in Nov 1870, how could she be registered? I notice on the form though, the zero in 1870 has a / written over it. Could it mean the 1870 census was actually done in January 1871? |
Edited by - jmsteen on 12/04/2013 18:53:25 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/04/2013 : 19:09:11
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| Yes it does seem strange. The printed column headings say the residents on the date of June 1870, perhaps they had problems getting it in gear for June 1870? Stranger things have happened, I'm sure. |
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jmsteen
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Norway
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Posted - 16/04/2013 : 09:05:03
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I found out about the strange / in the 1870 Census:
This is a so called second enumeration. A second count. The first enumeration was done in June 1870. Complains were made about the count and they had to re-count. This was done about 6 months later, in December 1870 - January 1871. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/04/2013 : 17:22:28
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| Curioser & curioser...Would that have been a problem local to New York or was it nationwide, I wonder. Thanks for interesting sidebar. |
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Lorents Greger Christensen Hveding (born 1827)
