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Ruben
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 Posted - 04/05/2025 : 23:16:40
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Hi,
I am looking for some help with my Norwegian heritage. As my Norwegian is non-existant, it is rather difficult to decipher everything. Any help from a clever detective would therefore be very much appreciated! 
Many, many thanks!
I am looking specifically for the parents and grandparents of Hans Pet(t)er Antonsen (Sletten) (°26/09/1865, Ullensaker (Nordby) - † probably 06/11/1918, Antwerp (Belgium)). He married Cornelia Frederica (le Sage) de Fontenay (descendant of French-Danish nobility).
In his batismal record (29/10/1865, Ullensaker, Akershus)) Anton Julius Hansen & Marie Halvorsdatter seem to be mentioned as his father and mother?
Furthermore, it seems his father left him and his mother with the family of David Davidsen and paid for his upbringing (source 1 and source 2)?
Documents in Antwerp also mention the names of Anton Julius Hansen & Marie Halvorsdatter, and state that Hans Peter arrived there in 1887 as a seaman, where he married on 26/03/1892.
1. Anton Julius Hansen
Could anybody confirm whether he was born in 1841, Kristiania or in 1834 (source 1 and source 2)? (Or even another date?) Which seems the most likely? And where was he born?
Can we find out the name of his parents?
2. Marie Halvorsdatter (Nordby?)
I think I read on the baptismal record of Hans that Anton lived in lejermål with Marie. Does this mean there is no marriage certificate? If so, is there a way to find out which Marie Halvorsdatter this is?
As she is said to be 28 years old in 1865 and born in Ullensaker, she is perhaps the Marie Halvorsdatter born on 14/08/1838 in Hitlon, Ullensaker or is it more likely that she is the Berthe Marie Halvorsdatter Dahlseie born on 14/06/1838 in Ullensaker?
Is this here baptismal record and if so, do I understand correctly that she is part of twins?
Who are here father and mother? Where can I find more information about them?
Many thanks for you help and I am of course always available for help with Belgian genealogy! |
Edited by - Ruben on 04/05/2025 23:23:22 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/05/2025 : 01:38:39
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The one born in Hilton is the better guess. Yes they are twins and were born out of wedlock. Also it seems if one of the twins died
The parents are probably Kari Hansdatter and Halvor Nilsen Hilton
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060303020969
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/05/2025 : 02:02:10
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Here is a long shot for Anthon Julius Hansen. A pupil at a school in Hedmark. Gives his birth as 3-10-1832
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/47/pl00000000060583
Could be the same guy or not hard to say but some things are close.
Anton Julius Hansen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name Anton Julius Hansen
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 24
Birth Date 1833
Marriage Date 15. apr 1857 (15 Apr 1857)
Marriage Place Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father
Andreas Hansen
Spouse
Ingeborg Laurentze Berline Olsdatter
FHL Film Number 125846
Reference ID bk 37 p280 #15
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/05/2025 : 18:15:36
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Originally posted by AntonH
Original record Nr 198
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060927020193
Not a lot of information here, Parents not married, their first instance of that.
Note, though, that the father's occupation is given as contorist; office worker. |
Edited by - ToreL on 05/05/2025 18:16:14 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/05/2025 : 18:52:32
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I suspect the wrong URL ended up behind the link named in 1841, Kristiania in the original post; it leads to the same record from the 1885 census as does the next link you provide. This candidate born in 1834 was a shoe maker in 1885, and most likely not an office worker in 1865.
But what source (that you probabably wanted the first link to provide) talks about a candidate born in 1841? |
Edited by - ToreL on 05/05/2025 18:56:14 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/05/2025 : 19:32:02
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quote:
Originally posted by AntonH
The one born in Hilton is the better guess. Yes they are twins and were born out of wedlock. Also it seems if one of the twins died
The parents are probably Kari Hansdatter and Halvor Nilsen Hilton
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060303020969
Fun fact: This Halvor Nilsen Hilton is probably the same guy you eventually reach if you follow the Father link 5-6 times from Paris Hilton's Geni profile. A pity only his children in the marriage to Karoline/Kari are linked to from his profile.
Whether the daughter Marie in this baptism is indeed Hans Petter's mother still remains to be seen.
I note that at Hans Petter's baptism there is a witness/sponsor Anne Halvorsdatter Døhlen. Could that be a sister? This is probably her in the 1865 census, indicating a birth in Ullensaker parish in 1845, which yields the candidates Anne1 and Anne2.
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