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fetchitnow
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Australia
2 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2004 :  08:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1: Was Peder Christian on the census in 1865 in Norway?

2: Current decendants of Peter Andreas Palmstrom married to Elisabeth Marie
Larsdatter.

Issues.
* Johan Carl 21-3-1829 Born Arendal and moved to Kragero April 1854
Gurine laurette 22-4-1831
Peter Martin 21-8-1833
Marie Catherine 21-12-1835
Georg Nicolai 18-9-1841 married Hansine Andrea Aslaken 4-4-1871
Elise matilde 5-9-1844 married Ole Laurits Odegard 23-2-1866
Georgine Nicoline / Nicoline Georgine 10-2-1847 married Iver Olsen 23-8-1866

3: Any record of Johan Carl?
a: Leaving Kragero Norway after 1854
b: On later census (1865)
c: Marrying
d: Death
4: We know Charles Peterson married in Troy New York in 1855 then came Australia. he changed his name before he arrived in Australia.

PS: Where would the best place be to find the marriage certificate from Troy New York 1855???

Any help with this would be great.

Kind regards

Mark Peterson
Melbourne Australia

Edited by - fetchitnow on 09/11/2004 08:11:34

askeroi
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Norway
299 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2004 :  08:24:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the Palmstrøms in the 1865 cencus. Click the individuals no in front and see his/her family:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f60903&sokpostnr=1#a0

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kerrie
Junior member

Australia
45 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2004 :  12:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For Marraige Certificates you need to apply to the County Records office in New York. If you do a google serach it should give you the information you require to apply for the certificate. You might also like to do a google search for the records you are searching for in Kragero. You could also search the Ellis Island website to find the arrival in New York of your Charles.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2004 :  18:35:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Ellis Island website has lists for passengers arriving at the Port of New York from 1892 to 1924. Since Charles was in New York in 1855 he would not be in this database.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3251 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  16:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New York state conducted a state census in 1855. Troy is located in Rensselaer County and the LDS library catalog indicates that they have that census copied to three reels of microfilm for that county.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3251 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  16:32:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are at least 139 different males named given and middle name = Peder Christain (? surname) or the spelling variant Peder Kristian (? surname) in the 1865 Norwegian census.
One male named Peder Christian (with Christian as the surname).
At least 295 males named Peder Christiansen or Kristiansen.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html

You'd need more information to be able to narrow down the possibilities.
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egiljo
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Norway
4 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2019 :  21:37:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan Carl Palmstrøm died 7. December 1855 (Arendal), "carpenter apprentice", 26 1/2 years old.

No 14:
Aust-Agder county, Arendal in Arendal, Parish register (official) no. A 6 (1855-1868), Deceased and buried 1855, Page 323, Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060208010323

No 15:
Aust-Agder county, Arendal in Arendal, Parish register (copy) no. B 2 (1838-1860), Deceased and buried 1856, Page 261, Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070329650346

Regards,
Egil

https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/236301-johan-carl-palmstr...
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MarkPeter
Medium member

Australia
93 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2019 :  23:27:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all so much for all of your help you have given me. I’m sorry that I wasted your time, but my family were told by a researcher 20 years ago that Johan Carl Palmstrom was most likely the same man as Charles Peterson. Now, thx to some great researchers, I have been told that JCP died in Dec 1855 in Arendal, Norway, so he wasn’t my Charles Peterson. Thx again to everyone for your help and patience. Fetchitnow - Mark P
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lyndal40
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USA
7396 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2019 :  02:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a waste of time. The searches that are tough and difficult are for me the most interesting.

Maybe revisiting the American life of Charles Peterson and wife
Ellen Cavanagh might turn up some clues.

Death of Ellen Peterson in Australia

Ellen Peterson
in the Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
Name: Ellen Peterson
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1840
Death Date: 23 Aug 1903
Cemetery: Rupanyup
Cemetery Location: Rupanyup, Victoria
Remarks: additional information available from AIGS

Ellen Peterson
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Ellen Peterson
Birth Year: abt 1840
Age: 63
Death Place: Rupanyup, Victoria
Father's name: Cavanagh
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11321

If the birth year is at all accurate she would have been only 15 when married and in the 1855 New York Census.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 08/08/2019 02:50:37
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lyndal40
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7396 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2019 :  03:04:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We did find an Ellen Cavanagh born about 1838 living in Rensselaer, New York, in the 1855 New York Census. However I think she is still living there in 1860 so not a candidate.In the 1855 Census I have left off the long list of borders. The earlier post on this census covers the list. See page three.

Ellen Cavanaugh
in the New York, State Census, 1855
Name: Ellen Cavanaugh
Birth Year: abt 1838
Age: 17
Relation to Head: Servant
Residence: Troy City, Ward 3, Rensselaer, New York, USA
Household number: 216
Line Number: 9
Sheet Number: 28

Ellen Cavanaugh
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Ellen Cavanaugh
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ireland
Home in 1860: Troy Ward 2, Rensselaer, New York
Post Office: Troy
Dwelling Number: 769
Family Number: 1168
Cannot Read, Write: Y


Edited by - lyndal40 on 08/08/2019 03:06:00
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