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kmattson
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Posted - 17/07/2020 :  19:32:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Great-Great-Great Grandfather Ole Anderson (-sen/son?) also has a name "Liumstuen" next to his name. I'm unclear whether that name "Liumstuen" is a surname or some kind of place name. Does anyone know if it's a surname or a place? I ran it through GoogleTranslate and I think it means "limestone" in English, so that only has me more confused.

I believe he was born in Follebu, Østre Gausdal in 1826. He died in Barron County Wisconsin, USA, at some later date, though I'm not 100% clear on the year/date of his death. He was married to an Ølia Østensdatter. Their daughter, Christine, a triplet, is my maternal Great-Great Grandma. (I guess that last comment is a bit obvious.)

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K. Mattson

lyndal40
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Posted - 17/07/2020 :  19:56:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the 1875 Norwegian Census

Rural residence:

0008 Lium (Liumstuen)

Gausdal, Oppland

From Oluf Rygh: Norwegian Farm Names

Listen over gårder er hentet fra "Norske Gaardnavne".

v.4, p.184
3. Lium. Udt. lí`ómm. #8213; i Lidom DN. V 259, 1393 (nordre)
DN. XV. 56, 1441. Lyder DN. I 567, 1442 i Lidom DN. X 170,
1457 i Lydom DN. X 176, 1462(som Parter nævnes 1393 Giæiks-
gardr, 1457 og 1462 Mategardr). Lyenn 1520. Lidom St. 139 b.
Lium 1578. Liidum 1594. Liunn 1604.1/4. Liumb med Mattegaard
1668. Lium med Matødegaarden 1723.

Er Dat. Flt. af líð f., Li, #8213; et af de ikke mange Exempler her paa
Oplandene paa, at et gammelt Navn har antaget denne Form, der ellers i
disse Egne er alm. ved Navne af nyere Oprindelse (jfr. Indl. S. 15). #8213; Med
Hensyn til Partnavnet Geiksgarðr kan jevnføres Gjeksrud og Gjekstad
i Vestby (Bd. II S. 3) og Gjekstad i Sandeherred. Geiks- er i disse Navne
vistnok en Forandring af Geirs-, af Mandsnavnet Geir (Geirr); k er, som
i en Mængde andre Tilfælde, indskudt foran s med følgende Konsonant, efter
at r var forsvundet i Udtalen. Forandringen er i disse Navne temmelig
gammel; man finder et Par af dem skrevne Geiks-, ligesom Geiksgarðr
her, allerede i 14de Aarh. (DN. II 254 RB. 127. 131).
v.4, p.201
33,4. Liumsæteren. Udt. lí`ómmsæ:tra.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 17/07/2020 20:02:28
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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/07/2020 :  20:23:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which record has Liumstuen appended to his name?

Somebody else from Liumstuen in Follebu:
http://www.gausdalsslekt.net/getperson.php?personID=I8129&tree=tree_2

http://www.gausdalsslekt.net/getperson.php?personID=I8131&tree=tree_2

Edited by - jkmarler on 17/07/2020 20:32:19
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lyndal40
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Posted - 17/07/2020 :  21:00:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Which record has Liumstuen appended to his name?


none

I referenced a domicile
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kmattson
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Posted - 17/07/2020 :  21:57:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I first saw that name appear on this passenger manifest (#150). From there I don't recall if I saw it in anything more official.
https://www.immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/hannahparr18680727.html

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kmattson
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Posted - 17/07/2020 :  22:00:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your help! Your information definitely answers my question. Name of a farm in Follebu--thus, not part of surname. I have been building my own family tree and didn't want to add errors to it.

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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/07/2020 :  15:33:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The farmname Liumstuen consist of two words; Lium from old norse líð, and stuen ("house").
Liumstuen = "The slope house"

The main Lium farm are also situated in a slope/hillside (Østre Gausdal valley):

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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/07/2020 :  23:41:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kmattson

My Great-Great-Great Grandfather Ole Anderson (-sen/son?)

Thank you.



Ole Andersen
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kmattson
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Posted - 27/07/2020 :  20:15:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much. Is the picture you shared an actual photo of Liumstuen farm or an example of something similar?

quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

The farmname Liumstuen consist of two words; Lium from old norse líð, and stuen ("house").
Liumstuen = "The slope house"

The main Lium farm are also situated in a slope/hillside (Østre Gausdal valley):




K. Mattson
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/07/2020 :  21:23:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The previous photo shows the main farm in the hillside where Liumstuen is located. The main farm in called Lium. Liumstuen was originally a subfarm under Lium.

Liumstuen is behind the back of the photographer when he shot the photo.
The red square on the photo below shows the same houses as the previous photo.
The red x shows the location of the photographer.
The yellow circle shows Liumstuen.
Click photo to enlarge.



The current owners of Liumstuen have a webpage on Facebook. In local dialect, the farmname is today spelled Liomstugua. They run a small farm with a herd of the sheep breed "Old Norwegian Short Tail Landrace", and they sell slaughter and skins from sheep and lambs.

Edited by - jwiborg on 27/07/2020 21:49:40
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kmattson
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Posted - 28/07/2020 :  02:46:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the clarification and photos. Very helpful, indeed.
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

The previous photo shows the main farm in the hillside where Liumstuen is located. The main farm in called Lium. Liumstuen was originally a subfarm under Lium.

Liumstuen is behind the back of the photographer when he shot the photo.
The red square on the photo below shows the same houses as the previous photo.
The red x shows the location of the photographer.
The yellow circle shows Liumstuen.
Click photo to enlarge.



The current owners of Liumstuen have a webpage on Facebook. In local dialect, the farmname is today spelled Liomstugua. They run a small farm with a herd of the sheep breed "Old Norwegian Short Tail Landrace", and they sell slaughter and skins from sheep and lambs.


K. Mattson
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