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Grim-are Bergtun
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Posted - 26/11/2013 :  21:22:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im searching for passengerlist/vessel for these passengers from Norway 1886. Knut Orvik with family.


http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=EMIAALE&gardpostnr=631&merk=631#ovre

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M9VK-CJ9


Anyone that know how to find out which vessel they arrived with.
Supposed to go to Larrimor, Dakota.
The vessel they joined in Norway grounded on the sailing to Hull, and all passengers was saved and transported back to Bergen, where they later (as far as I know) was transported to Hull with S/S Domino at 20th March 1886

Have not been able to track any records from passengerlists.

Anyone that can give me some help here??

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 26/11/2013 :  21:57:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Such a dramatic journey story might have been included in a biography.
A Knut Orvik who died in 1917 has a biography published about him in the 1985 2 volume Nelson County (N.D.) history. Likely this is he & his naturalization record:

Orvik Knud Norway 1st March 26, 1887 Nelson D-1 162
Orvik Knud Norway 2nd October 27, 1894 Nelson D-9 113
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 27/11/2013 :  00:08:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A story about Knut Orvik in Larimore, ND. The family homesteaded in Melrose Township, Nelson County, ND.
You have received some info about him here.

Edited by - jwiborg on 27/11/2013 00:15:02
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Grim-are Bergtun
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Posted - 03/12/2013 :  09:49:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank`s for the effort so far all of you. Seems that this issue is not so easy to solve.

As far as I know they where connecting from SS Tasso (Wilson Line) with an Allan Line vessel,
most likely it was supposed to be the SS Parisian ??

http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=2023

But as the SS Tasso grounded and the passengers as per information I have was transported by the SS Domino from Bergen to Hull,
this most likely could have changed accordingly to available space on different vessels

http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=1992
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/12/2013 :  23:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I checked the Nelson county history stories of Knut, N.M. and Nels E Orvik and no one reported the name of the ship they travelled on.

I also checked the WPA Pioneer Biography index for any Orvik story but there was none.
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Grim-are Bergtun
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Posted - 22/11/2023 :  20:50:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Refreshing this ...
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/11/2023 :  05:44:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The link to the Norwegian migration record no longer functions. Here it is:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000888648
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2023 :  20:55:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems to be a very difficult family to find in the emigration records,. When I have difficulty finding a passenger or even a family , I try to find another passenger near the person I am trying to find so I can maybe find the ship they left England on. However in this case I tried at least 8 other people on either side of your family but had no luck finding any of these any of the other eight that left Norway at the same time.

I used Norway migration record posted by Jackie and the posted Norwegian list found on Ancestry.com.

https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/Screenshot20231124at.png
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2023 :  20:59:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Near Knut Orvik and family is a Nils Orvik age 15 and traveling to Larimore,,

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000888653

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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2023 :  21:02:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could not find the arrival if Nils Orvik but I did find this record in which he indicates that he arrived March 1886 at Port Huron, Michigan. Unfortunately no ship mentioned.

Nels Mathias Orvik
in the North Dakota, U.S., Naturalizations, 1873-1952

Name Nels Mathias Orvik
Gender Male
Race White
Declaration Age 64
Record Type Naturalization Declaration
Birth Date 17 May 1870
Birth Place Otornen (Molde) Norway
Arrival Date Mar 1886
Arrival Place Port Huron Michigan
Declaration Date 24 Apr 1935
Declaration Place Lakota, Nelson, North Dakota, USA
Declaration Number 614
Spouse
Laura Orvik
Volume Number

Edited by - AntonH on 24/11/2023 21:02:58
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2023 :  21:05:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the original record

https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/853Screenshot20231124at.png
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2023 :  21:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably can assume that Knut and family traveled from England to Quebec and from there to Sarnia, Ontario and across the border to Port Huron Michigan.

Here is a discussion from 2013 on such a trip.

http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3541

http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5740


Edited by - AntonH on 24/11/2023 21:42:28
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2023 :  22:48:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the Nils Orvik arrived in Port Huron in March 1886 and the Knut Orvik family arrived in Hull on March 20 1886, I would think the most likely ship arrival in Canada would be around the end of March or early April. . The Norway Heritage data base has the Sarnia arriving March 30 and the Parisian arriving April 4.

The Ancestry,com site has only transcribed about 180 passngers for the Sarnia. That is about six pages of ships manifests.

There is a good likelyhood that some pages of ships manifests are missing for this ships arrival March 29, 1886. Ancestry has arrival on March 29, Norway Heritage has a date of March 30, 1886.

S/S Sarnia, Dominion Line

"norwayheritage.com
http://www.norwayheritage.com p_ship
how many passengers did the S/S Sarnia, Dominion Line carry from www.norwayheritage.com
900 passengers arrived at Quebec 04:00 morning ... We permit the use of the material for non-profit purposes like personal web pages, family history books etc., ...
Missing: carry #8206;| Show results with: carry"




Edited by - AntonH on 25/11/2023 21:06:11
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 25/11/2023 :  18:08:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your comment on the passenger vessel caused me to compare the data avaliable on the Sarnia and the Parisian. Ancestry.com has 27 pages of 50 passengers each for arrival of the Parisian on April 4, 1886.

Ancestry.com has four pages of 50 passengers each arriving 29 March 1886. If the ship carried anywhere near the 900 passengers listed above for its capacity we are missing data for some 700 passengers.
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/11/2023 :  18:44:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a data base for crossing the border from Canada at Port Huron bot it does not begin until 1895.

"All U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960 results"

Edited by - AntonH on 25/11/2023 20:54:11
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 25/11/2023 :  18:55:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Canada has listed arrival by ship as well the ones from Ancestry.com. Here is a link to the Sarnia arrival March 30 1886. It is only five pages long.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=7591&
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