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UnniKnutsen
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  18:51:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mary Persky asked for Information on Tarald Taraldsen (1892-1946) in a post some months ago. I have been in contact with her as Tarald was my grandmother´s youngest brother.

However, my grandmother has written in her memoirs that six of her brothers and sisters were in the US around 1910.

Her sister Terese/Teresie Jørgensen (1886-1977) is well known to me, but some of the brothers I have lost track of, despite searches in censuses etc.

I know Hans Taraldsen (born July 11, 1877) and brother Andreas ( born April 25, 1888) sailed from Kristiansand November 15 1907 (Thingvalla). I have a picture of Andreas hunting in Alaska.

I wonder whether Aanon Emil (born June 16, 1881) might have left after his wife and baby died in 1909. I have no proof of this, though.

Then the sixth might be Berte Olsen (born July 2, 1884), wife of Otto M Olsen (1884) or Tomine ( born February 7, 1876, wife of Knut Knutsen (1871)

My grandmother wrote that they went to Texas and worked in the oil industry. Tarald lived in Orange, Texas so this makes perfect sense to me.

I would appreciate any help!

Best wishes from

Unni Knutsen

lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  20:03:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In 1910 a Andreas and Aanon Taraldsen arrived in New York. Last address was Risør.

I see in the 1891 Census there is a Aanon Emil Taraldsen. I wonder if this Aanon could be the same person.

Name: Aanon Emil Taraldsen
Gender: Mann (Male)
Relation to Head: Søn (Son)
Birth Date: 1881
Residence Place: Søndeled, Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Norge (Norway)

Aanon Taraldsen
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Aanon Taraldsen
Arrival Date: 11 Nov 1910
Birth Date: abt 1880
Last Permanent Address: Norway
Other Last Permanent Address: Rieor
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Adriatic

Andreas lists Galveston Texas as a place where he has been, Aanon has not been to America before. Destination is a Peter Knutsen ? Texas.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 29/07/2020 20:30:40
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lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  20:39:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Aanon Emil was a seaman perhaps he did not stay in Texas but worked as a seaman in America. Here is a Aanon Taraldsen sp? working as a seaman. He is from Søndeled.

Aanon Taraldzen
in the Virginia, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1904-1963
Name: Aanon Taraldzen
Gender: Male
Nationality: Norwegian
Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Place: Norway Sandeled
Arrival Date: 18 Feb 1914
Arrival Port: Newport News, Virginia, USA
Vessel: Noruega
Vessel Number: 14

Another sailor on the ship is a Peder Taraldsen.

Both are from Risør and both have a final destination as Beaumont Texas. Both have wives

Peder Taraldzen
in the Virginia, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1904-1963
Name: Peder Taraldzen
Gender: Male
Nationality: Norwegian
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Place: Norway Sandeled
Arrival Date: 18 Feb 1914
Arrival Port: Newport News, Virginia, USA
Vessel: Noruega
Vessel Number: 14

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Edited by - lyndal40 on 29/07/2020 21:22:55
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lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  20:57:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This death record from Digitalarkivet shows a Aamund Emil Hansen (Taraldsen) died in Beaumont Texas in 1916.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002732893
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lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  21:29:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hard to follow the family, so here is the 1891 Census

Tarald Olsen
in the 1891 Norway Census
Name: Tarald Olsen
Gender: Mann (Male)
Marital status: Gift (Married)
Relation to Head: Familiens overhode (Head)
Birth Date: 1851
Residence Place: Søndeled, Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Norge (Norway)
Counting District Number: 11
Houselist Number: 3
Person Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Relation to Head
Tarald Olsen Familiens overhode (Head)
Anne Hansdatter Hustru (Wife)
Anne Tomine Kristensdatter. Husfaderens Moder (Mother)
Ole, Andreas, Kristian Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Anne Tomine Taraldsdatter Datter (Daughter)
Hans Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Thora Amalie Taraldsdatter Datter (Daughter)
Aanon Emil Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Peder Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Theresie Taraldsdatter Datter (Daughter)
Andreas Taroldsen Søn (Son)
Sofie Taraldsdatter. Datter (Daughter)
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lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  21:37:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Based on the 1891 Census, I would guess that Peder and Aanon from the ship in Virginai in 1914 are the Peder and Aanon found in the 1891 Norwegian Census. Trying to find these sailors in an American Census is a tough job. Almost easier to find them in the Norwegian Census listed as living in America or even England? As was Aanon for the 1900 Norwegian Census.

Aanon Taraldsen
in the 1900 Norway Census
Name: Aanon Taraldsen
Gender: mann (Male)
Birth Date: 1881
Birth Place: Søndeled herred
Street address: Sætra 0002
Residence Year: 1900
Residence Place: Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Norge (Norway)
Census Place: Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Norge
Assumed Place of Living: England
Relation to Head: Søn (Son)
Enumeration District: 010
Farm Number: Under 40
Residential Status: Midlertidigt Fraværende
House Number: 1
Line Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Relation to Head
Tarald Olsen Husfar (Head)
Berte Olsdatter hastru (Wife)
Teresie Taraldsdatter Datter (Daughter)
Andreas Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Tarald Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Tolma Taraldsdatter Datter (Daughter)
Hans Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Peder Taraldsen Søn (Son)
Aanon Taraldsen Søn (Son)

Edited by - lyndal40 on 29/07/2020 21:39:04
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lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  21:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Peder in 1900 living in America.

Peder Taraldsen
in the 1900 Norway Census
Name: Peder Taraldsen
Gender: mann (Male)
Relation to Head: Søn (Son)
Birth Year: 1883
Birth Place: Søndeled herred
Residence Year: 1900
Street address: Sætra 0002
Residence Place: Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Aust-Agder, Norge (Norway)
Assumed Place of Living: Amerika
Irina Test53454r53453: PederTaraldsen

And back in Norway for the 1910 Census?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036548001948

Wife is Jenni, same as in the one listed on the ship in Virginia.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 29/07/2020 21:49:57
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lyndal40
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  21:43:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might be Aanon living on a ship in England in 1901 English Census


Aamend Taraldson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Aamend Taraldson
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Rok
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Norwegian Foreign Subject, Norway
Civil Parish: Vessels
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Town: Tyne Dock
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: Scott
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4737
Folio: 247
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thorvald Hanson 29
Hans Nilsen 56
Teodor Evenson 37
Aamend Taraldson 18
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/07/2020 :  23:22:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans and Andreas did arrive together in 1907. Andreas is a occupied as a carpenter and Hans as a seaman. Hans' record indicates that he was in Texas from 1902-1907.

Name: Andreas Tharaldsen
Arrival Date: 27 Nov 1907
Birth Date: abt 1888
Last Permanent Address: Norway
Other Last Permanent Address: Søudeled
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Kristiansand, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Oscar II

Aanon Tharaldson, their brother, is listed as their nearest relative in Norway. The address they were going to in US was the Scandinavian sailors home at 172 Carroll St in Brooklyn.
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lyndal40
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Posted - 30/07/2020 :  00:10:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Tarald Taraldsen travelled to America in 1913 he is listed as going to Andrea Hansen of Saratoga, Texas. (ie Beaumont, Port Arthur Texas)

Tharald Tharaldsen
in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962
Name: Tharald Tharaldsen
Gender: Male
Nationality: Scandinavian
Arrival Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1892
Birth Place: Sendeled, Norway
Last Residence: Norway
Departure Place: Christiania, Norway
Arrival Date: 27 Oct 1913
Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Friend or Relative: Marie Tharaldsen
Ship: Noruega

[url=https://postimages.org/][/url]

Would the brothers have used the last name of Hanson in America?

Aamund Emil Hansen (Taraldsen)? as posted above.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002732893




Edited by - lyndal40 on 30/07/2020 00:13:32
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/07/2020 :  00:39:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a death cert for an Emile Hanson born June 1882 Norway who died in Jefferson county, Texas in 1915. His parents are Jarold / Tarold Hanson and Anne Olson:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9Y14-7X1T?i=2242&cc=1983324&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AK37Y-R3C

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K37Y-R3C
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lyndal40
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Posted - 30/07/2020 :  00:54:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting Jackie. The document gives his father's name as Jarold (Or Tarald?) Hansen and mother as Anne Olsen. Person filling out the form is A Hansen Saratoga, Texas.

[url=https://postimages.org/][/url]

Must be the same guy as the death record posted above in Digitalarkivet

\https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002732893

Perhaps the death record is a little wrong and the parents names are Tarald Olsen and Anna Hansdatter. Then it would fit it the parents in the 1891 Census

Aanon Emil Olsen was born Jun of 1881 tho not 1882.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 30/07/2020 01:44:35
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UnniKnutsen
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Posted - 30/07/2020 :  13:38:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks a lot! I am really overwhelmed by your quick and accurate responses!

They were indeed sailors;

Hans: https://www.sjohistorie.no/no/sjofolk/53502/

Aanon: https://www.sjohistorie.no/no/sjofolk/53505/ (In the 1900-census it is recorded that he probably is in England)

Peder: https://www.sjohistorie.no/no/sjofolk/53507/ He was married to Jenny Kristine Jensen in 1906 and died in Norway May 8th 1918.

Andreas did not work at sea. as far as I can see, at least not in Norway.

I suppose the death recorded here is Aanon: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/64348/233
He died of appendicitis. Now I need to track down his second wife...

Best wishes from

Unni Knutsen
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lyndal40
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Posted - 30/07/2020 :  15:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The ladies are a little harder to find. Tell us more information on them if you know it. When did they get married. Norway or America? When did they leave Norway? etc.
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UnniKnutsen
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Posted - 02/08/2020 :  17:50:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do not know whether they actually emigrated, but I have lost sight of them in Norway. I hope I can get track of them again when the 1920-census is released in Norway.

Anne Tomine Taraldsdatter was born in Sætra, Søndeled, February 7, 1876. She was married to Knud Knudsen, born April 17, 1871 in Vegårdshei. He belonged to the religious sect "Guds menighet". I find them in the 1900-census (https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/rural-residence/bf01037192000431), but not in 1910.

The other sister was called Berte and was born July 2, 1884. She was first married to Petter Jørgen Pettersen in 1903, but he died outside New Zealand (sailor). July 6th 1913 she marries Otto M. Olsen born December 13, 1884 from Grue. She lived her last years in Evje, Norway, according to my grandmother, but I can´t find any evidence...

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lyndal40
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Posted - 02/08/2020 :  18:33:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a death record for a Anne Tomine Taraldsdatter in the parish records for Søndeled for 1904. Her husband is Knut Knutsen. The birth year is 1876.

Number 10.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060509120444

Edited by - lyndal40 on 02/08/2020 18:36:22
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