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dodgeboy12
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USA
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Posted - 05/01/2020 :  19:27:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone.
I'm looking for my great grandmothers family,Andrea Mathilda was born in Bergen Dec.4,1847

Her father Ludvig Cornelius Andersen b.1816 Førde, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway

Her mother Anne Oline Arnesdatter b. 1829 Bergen

I have found 3 sisters born in Bergen
Olina Sophie b. 1850
Oliva Sophie b. 1851
Marie Karoline b. 1853

I have found their families going back in Norway. Census records show her Immigrating abt.1855 I find nothing of Ludwig or Anne in America.
I did find Oliva S. marriage 1874 in Cook County To Ole Dahl and upon being widowed moving to Lodi Wisconsin by 1900
She was married in Cook county Illinois in 1872. the first i records i find her in are the
1880 U.S. census As Matilda Dale in Dane county Wisconsin
1900 U.S. census as Mathilda Dahl in Lodi Wisconsin

any help will be greatly appreciated Jim

jkmarler
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USA
6641 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2020 :  20:12:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Recapping what you already know:
Andrea:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000007467408

Oliva:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000007468242

Oliva Sophie:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000007468914

Marie Karoline:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000007402960

Ludvig's and Anne's marriage:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000001293472
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jwiborg
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Norway
4688 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2020 :  20:55:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Taken from: Gards- og ættesoge for Luster kommune. B. 2 : Dale 1 sokn
Lars E. Øyane, Luster kommune, 1986
Anders Olson's parents: Ole Christenson Quale (1796-1868) & Anna Larsdotter (1802-1849)
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lyndal40
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USA
7711 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  03:45:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You seem to have a lot of information already judging by your Ancestry.com Family Tree. What more are you looking for specifically?

Here are some records I did not see in a quick glance at your Tree.

Mathilda Dahl
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Mathilda Dahl
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1847
Death Date: 21 Nov 1910
Cemetery: County Line Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Dane County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
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lyndal40
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USA
7711 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  03:48:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mathilda Dahl
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Mathilda Dahl
Age in 1910: 63
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Lodi, Columbia, Wisconsin
Street: Columbus Road
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Marital status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Own Income
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Number of Children Born: 4
Number of Children Living: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Christian Dahl 29
Florence Dahl 27
Lucile Dahl 0
Mathilda Dahl 63
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 06/01/2020 :  03:51:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Matilda Dahl
in the Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1855-1905
Name: Matilda Dahl
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widowed
Age: 58
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birth Place: Norway
Residence Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence Place: Lodi, Columbia, Wisconsin, USA
Relationship: Head
Line: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Matilda Dahl 58
Levi Dahl 22
Christian Dahl 24
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dodgeboy12
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USA
84 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  04:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks
I'm trying to find out if she came with her parents, what happened to her parents,where she stayed. I can't find her or parents in 1860 or 1870 census.
I can't find any thing on Ludvig or Oline after the birth of their daughter in 1853. and i know you all have some mad skills in this area!
I only found out 2 years ago thru dna who my father was, and I'm trying to piece my family together the best i can.
It's been an adventure to say the least. I've met cousins and a sister. jwiborg helped a lot with the Dahls

Jim
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ToreL
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Norway
307 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  11:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Ludvig Cornelius joined the Bergen Merchant Guild on January 8th 1847, he called himself Ludvig Andersen Indrebøe.

According to this clipping from the piece on the farm Indrebøen in Førde Bygdebok, Ludvik Kornelius Anderson, born 1816, first moved to Bergen and then to Trondheim.

Edited by - ToreL on 06/01/2020 12:21:31
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lyndal40
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USA
7711 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  17:15:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Thanks
I'm trying to find out if she came with her parents, what happened to her parents,where she stayed. I can't find her or parents in 1860 or 1870 census.
I can't find any thing on Ludvig or Oline after the birth of their daughter in 1853. and i know you all have some mad skills in this area!
I only found out 2 years ago thru dna who my father was, and I'm trying to piece my family together the best i can.
It's been an adventure to say the least. I've met cousins and a sister. jwiborg helped a lot with the Dahls


Good answer. That will save us a lot of thrashing about. Do you know for a fact that her parents came to America.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 06/01/2020 17:16:24
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dodgeboy12
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USA
84 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  18:12:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No I don't, other than ToreL posting with the posibility of Ludvig going to Trondheim. I can't find him in Norway or The U.S.
I only get Mathilda's immagration estimated year of 1854 in 1900 census. which would mean someone brought her.

Edited by - dodgeboy12 on 06/01/2020 18:27:33
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/01/2020 :  18:21:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might be of interest. From Trondhjems Adresseavis Thorsdag, 17 May 1860, page 4 "Andmeldte Reisende"

"Den 16de Mai, batteridyrlæge _roshaug fra Christiania og Ludvig Andersen fra Bergen, hos Mad. Fladaas"

And then this in 18 Mar 1863 page 2 Addressecontors-Efterettninger :
"Døde
Farver Ludvig Andersen 46 aar gl"

Edited by - jkmarler on 06/01/2020 18:27:25
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ToreL
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Norway
307 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  21:12:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler


And then this in 18 Mar 1863 page 2 Addressecontors-Efterettninger :
"Døde
Farver Ludvig Andersen 46 aar gl"



Here is the matching entry in the church book: (#36).

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070921650359

The age looks right, but the occupation is very different. Our man in Bergen was a merchant (handelsmand) and (approximately)pub-owner (kjældermand), while the deceased in Trondheim was a dyer (farver).

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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2020 :  07:44:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Google kept translating farver as "color" in both Danish and Norwegian, so I was unsure what it actually meant. Yes two very different occupations. That was the first Ludvig Andersen death I saw with an approximately correct age but there were numerous others in later dates in Trondheim newspapers.

If the 1855 date of migration is correct, Andrea was too young to really be going on her own and her sisters more so. I don't think any Bergen(and probably Trondheim, too) utflyttes were indexed in the old database of pastoral acts, so maybe there would be a record of the whole family leaving at some point in church registers?
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jwiborg
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Norway
4688 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2020 :  18:34:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure how to translate this correctly, but this probate advertisement from the local Bergen newspaper shows a trader named Ludvig Andersen file for bankruptcy petition in 1854.
The note says that everyone that has receivables must make contact with Bergen probate court within 6 months.
Not sure, but it could possibly also mean a "normal" termination of the trading, ie. not a bankruptcy.
Maybe the trading was terminated because Ludvig planned to emigrate to America or move to Trondheim?
The case was finally handled in Bergen probate court on June 26th, 1856.

The emigration could possibly be found in Domkirken church register around 1855-56, but couldn't find his name there...




Edited by - jwiborg on 07/01/2020 18:56:25
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ToreL
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Norway
307 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2020 :  21:43:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a different notice several years later, on July 20. 1859, about bankruptcy procedings in Drammen for handelsmand Ludvig Andersen.

Probably not the same man. Here is one handelsmand Ludvig Anton Andersen, listed as father in a baptism at Strømsø, in the Drammen area, in 1860.

Edited by - ToreL on 08/01/2020 21:41:22
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lyndal40
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USA
7711 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2020 :  03:05:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
James

I wonder if this is not the marriage of Mathilda in 1876 in Chicago. I do not recall if this has already been posted. I know you listed 1872 above as her marriage year. Where does that come from.

Mathilda Anderson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Mathilda Anderson
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 May 1876
Marriage Place: Chicago, Illinois, USA
Spouse: Andrew O Dehll
Church Name: Trinity Lutheran Church
Church Location: Chicago, Illinois

Original is nearly unreadable

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Edited by - lyndal40 on 08/01/2020 03:11:39
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